Team Pony

[TwistedPhoenix]

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Stepping songs is a bit difficult. I tried using DDReam on one of my songs, but it had so much noise in it that it was just a fat bar with mini spikes on it. XD

A couple different tools I use are Mixmeister's BPM Analyzer, and this manual BPM tool for when songs have like 50 different BPMs: http://all8.com/tools/bpm.htm

I did step Forever Dreaming, Foozogz's Remix of Omnivore's Forever Asleep, but I got a big fat paragraph of review. I suppose for my first file it wasn't all too bad, but I need to do some more songs before I take on the more difficult stuff.

I've been considering stepping one of Makkon's newest songs, Dregs, but I'm not quite sure how to start it out. It's a 145 BPM, and whatever sound is used that starts on the second beat (or 3 seconds in really) confuses me. It seems most like 8th notes would fit it best, but I have to choose between short holds or plain arrows, and whether or not to use doubles as I plan to put a lot of layering into this song. I know exactly WHAT I want to put steps to, but I can't actually do it. XD

[bmah]

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I don't recommend DDReam for beginners. I'd start off with the simple Stepmania editor. I always use this.

@gold stinger: to each their own I suppose. *shrugs*
Do realize though that the above two programs are more standard in terms of usage in this community.

[megamon88]

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tbh ddream is really only useful if you're having syncing problems

[bmah]

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That's what I use it for. I know several people actually step in DDReam but I personally only use the program as a syncing tool if Mixmeister or my own ears fail.

[TehBoredGuy]

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@Everyone, thanks for the recommendations, What is the website for Stepmania? i assume like.. Stepmania.com or something right? I did download DDream, and i cant figure it out lol.. so maybe the stepmania editor will work better. as long as the song will still work on FFR by the time im done.

[bmah]

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http://www.stepmania.com/wiki/Downloads

I actually would get Stepmania 3.9, and if you want, v5 as well. I recommend you start by using the Stepmania editor in v3.9.

[TehBoredGuy]

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http://www.stepmania.com/wiki/Downloads

I actually would get Stepmania 3.9, and if you want, v5 as well. I recommend you start by using the Stepmania editor in v3.9.

I cant get the download for the newest version to work. when its about to finish, something says its interrupted and it cant save the file. Never tried getting the other ones though.

[TehBoredGuy]

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Ok so i tried playing stepmania 3.9... The game is way out of sync.. like i cant even hit notes the way i should be able to, when i press a key there's a large delay before it registers in the game. any way to solve this?

[TwistedPhoenix]

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Well, there should be an option called vsync. I haven't used SM 3.9 in a bit, but I'm pretty sure it has that. Play around with that and see if it helps.

Also, if it doesn't quite fix it, try this.

Synchronize in StepMania 3.9
Audio Sync

There's a preference in StepMania 3.9 and newer called GlobalOffsetSeconds. You can adjust this by editing StepMania.ini.

Edit: So about the V5 install; Have you tried running it as admin, or disabling an anti-virus? Those might be blocking the install.

Edited again! Yay. Buy anyways, where are you installing it to? If you have it set to program files (the default place), change it. I have mine on the desktop. I think I remember there being something about not putting it in Program Files cause Windows is snobby and doesn't like it there.

[TehBoredGuy]

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Well, there should be an option called vsync. I haven't used SM 3.9 in a bit, but I'm pretty sure it has that. Play around with that and see if it helps.

Also, if it doesn't quite fix it, try this.



Edit: So about the V5 install; Have you tried running it as admin, or disabling an anti-virus? Those might be blocking the install.

Edited again! Yay. Buy anyways, where are you installing it to? If you have it set to program files (the default place), change it. I have mine on the desktop. I think I remember there being something about not putting it in Program Files cause Windows is snobby and doesn't like it there.

Yeah i think thats what it was too, for the V5 install. As for the rest of the problems for 3.9 i have no idea. i'll give them a shot though.

[TehBoredGuy]

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meh.. I give up. i tried editing the settings and the globaloffsetseconds thing but i give up. lol i'll just leave the stepping to the pros. i just wish i could step a song.. cause if i did it would turn out perfectly as i plan it to. lol like when i play other peoples steps, like they dont play out nearly as i would've planned them to, lol which throws me off. but meh i'll leave it to you pro-steppers.

[bmah]

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Large delay before a key registers you say? That sounds more like a hardware issue than a syncing problem. I've never heard of latency issues for a keyboard that bad. That has nothing to do with being a "pro stepper"...see if you can find a way around it. I could be wrong though if your keyboard's responsiveness works well for everything else.

I also recommend downloading v3.9 as opposed to v3.95. Hopefully you weren't trying to do the latter.

[TehBoredGuy]

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Large delay before a key registers you say? That sounds more like a hardware issue than a syncing problem. I've never heard of latency issues for a keyboard that bad. That has nothing to do with being a "pro stepper"...see if you can find a way around it. I could be wrong though if your keyboard's responsiveness works well for everything else.

I also recommend downloading v3.9 as opposed to v3.95. Hopefully you weren't trying to do the latter.

i have no idea if it was 3.95 or 3.9. the file said 3.9 so i assume it was exactly that. ANd why i said i'll leave everything to you "pro steppers" it wasnt the program or anything i was saying that cause i'm just not gonna bother trying to learn to step songs lol

[gold stinger]

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I applaud you for taking an easy route.

"The only winning move is not to play at all."

I can safely say that you will get plenty of fun making your first couple of songs in DDR if you ever get it working, but the process of completing the song is quite time-consuming, especially for longer songs that contain no song edits or isn't a remixed version of the song (like most songs on regular DDR machines, ranging between 1:00 to 2:30 long.)

[TwistedPhoenix]

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Would uploading my Stepmania folder allow for usage? I'm not entirely sure whether or not it would work, as it uses another folder in appdata for profiles and such, but I think it should just create that file when you first start it up.

Also, there are only a few people that I can think of made good steps from the get-go. Pretty much everyone else had to learn what to do and what not to do from experience. I say you should go for it, and after a few songs decide whether or not you really want to continue making more.