TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 7/8/09

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  • #1966
    FFR Player
    heyitsmee
    • Sep 2006
    • 2042

    Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread

    360 points ill never make it
    make a "plays FFR much has over 240 tier and will never get 360" or codename.."FFR Lover/appreciator" as the base before pro

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    • #1967
      I only need 3 seconds :)
      FFR Simfile Author
      Kotarouchan
      • Feb 2005
      • 2030

      Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread

      because everyone whores Rose for the Midnight token. If you want your 6 points, then AAA Midnight because technically you get 10 points for AAA'ing Midnight (4 for unlocking the song, and 6 for AAA'ing it)

      Also look at this: Neon-213 is a 4-point Very Challenging. Did you not see that one?

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      • #1968
        FFR Player
        CR_fLiP_fOaM
        • Aug 2006
        • 1479

        Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread

        Yeah I know I saw it. Pretty easy for VC.
        "This better not be Snowbound again"

        Best AAA - Lawn Wake IV, Strangeprogram, Vertex Beta
        FC all Guru's Except - Death Piano, Revo, CP and the rest I haven't play it.

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        • #1969
          FFR Player
          magirocker
          • Jan 2007
          • 470

          Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread

          Originally posted by Kotarouchan
          Also look at this: Neon-213 is a 4-point Very Challenging. Did you not see that one?
          Yeah, I was wondering why that was even VC, but if it is given only 4 tierpoints for a AAA, then that confirms the fact that it should not be VC.
          AAA's: 158 + Tokens
          Best: Wisdom/The Prototype
          Newest:GO!

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          • #1970
            FFR Veteran
            TheSeventhSign
            • Feb 2004
            • 525

            Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread

            Oh, I'm sure there are other oddities in the Tier Point system, I was just pointing that one out. I look at that page about once a month so I don't notice a lot of stuff, just wondered the logic, I guess Uber Rave having blue arrows, being off, and being much easier than Rose makes it 6 points.

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            • #1971
              FFR's Buizel
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              rshadow8888
              • Aug 2005
              • 3120

              Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread

              Duality is listed around as hard as seven, yet the 1 point challenge is to get 30 goods or less?

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              • #1972
                FFR Originalbro
                FFR Simfile Author
                Rebirth0
                • Jun 2003
                • 8751

                Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread

                Jimerax originally had it as a 5 point AAA, but I didn't think it was that hard. I bumped it down to a 4. Its not equal to the difficulty of Seven


                Update comes tomorrow right after I get home from school, unless I end up doing something

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                • #1973
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                  gnr61
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 7251

                  Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread

                  hehe i have way more trouble with duality than Seven. mostly cuz I avmiss the end though, I'll have to try on a different kb. I really thought it would be a 5 when i first played.
                  squirrel--it's whats for dinner.

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                  • #1974
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                    jimerax
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 8185

                    Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread

                    ending 4-framers in Duality might be a bit hard, until then it's easy.

                    FC for 1 point is an ok idea, but I don't care much.

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                    • #1975
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                      ledwix
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 2878

                      Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread

                      Originally posted by behanjc
                      Abandon tier points system, and move on to % of possible points gained ranking. (Add up the max possible scores of each song and rank who has the highest % of that) Not going to happen probably, but that's what it should be.
                      this means that having an FC on molto versus a good top 20 non FC weights as much as AAA'ing a challenging versus getting 500 goods on a challenging song. theoretically it sounds good, but it weights FC's on the hardest songs too much, because of the combo-based scoring. in other words, you'd have to AAA dozens more songs than someone else who had a few goods on all of those songs, JUST to overcome one FC they had on a hard song where they had a (maybe) lucky run. (dono if that makes sense to people or if it just sounded like a big rant, sry)

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                      • #1976
                        stargroup & me are <3'ers
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                        behanjc
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 1546

                        Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread

                        Nah, makes sense. But the very few people who can FC and/or get a very high combo are generally better overall and deserve the recognition and would probably rank in the highest even without Guru songs. soulstone is one case. Not sure if he just chooses not to play for AAAs on easiers songs, but his amazing Guru scores deserve him placement above many people with way more AAA's. Still, you make a good point. I guess FFR's combo based scoring is not suitable for my proposed method. Tier system is too inconsistent for me, but I guess it's the best thing atm.

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                        • #1977
                          Giant Pi Operator
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                          ledwix
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 2878

                          Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread

                          i say the best systems are (in order): 1. tier points system reformed with less songs 2. current tier point system 3. your proposition 4. average rank 5. overall rank

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                          • #1978
                            FFR Player
                            lxDestinyxl
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 3247

                            Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread

                            1998th Post.

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                            • #1979
                              HAVE ME WITH VODKA
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              Sprite-
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 7317

                              Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread

                              Originally posted by ledwix
                              i say the best systems are (in order): 1. Sprite's point system 2. tier points system reformed with less songs 3. current tier point system 4. your proposition 5. average rank 6. overall rank
                              fixed

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                              • #1980
                                FFR Originalbro
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                                Rebirth0
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 8751

                                Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread

                                Originally posted by lxDestinyxl
                                1998th Post.
                                2000th

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