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  • Shashakiro
    TWO THOUZAND COMBO
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Aug 2005
    • 9082

    #61
    Re: SotW - Coat Czech

    In my opinion, these is no such thing as a file without 4-or-less-frame jack separations that belongs on SM but not FFR, and I don't really buy any of the arguments to the contrary...all I hear is stuff about how the "feel" of FFR is changing, blah blah blah, but the fact is that it's clearly possible and not even that hard to play them on FFR, and "feel" is entirely subjective and up to the individual anyway, so you can't possibly expect us to use that in our judging of files.

    For the record, I don't find this file very fun at all in FFR. I liked Torinouta, though.
    4th Official FFR Tournament - Master division champion!

    Originally posted by Boogiebear
    use ur bain. Itz there for a reason.

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    • sertman
      DADALADAH
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Jun 2005
      • 3910

      #62
      Re: SotW - Coat Czech

      Originally posted by Shashakiro
      but the fact is that it's clearly possible and not even that hard to play them on FFR, and "feel" is entirely subjective and up to the individual anyway
      coming from the person with 276 out of 276 points on the top player scale, of course you know what's hard for the general populous

      this is why it's good to have variety in judging files, not just 2 guys with the same mindset

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      • dore
        caveman pornstar
        FFR Simfile Author
        FFR Music Producer
        • Feb 2006
        • 6317

        #63
        Re: SotW - Coat Czech

        Shash and Tass have two completely different mindsets when it comes to judging files.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

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        • Shashakiro
          TWO THOUZAND COMBO
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Aug 2005
          • 9082

          #64
          Re: SotW - Coat Czech

          Originally posted by sertman
          coming from the person with 276 out of 276 points on the top player scale, of course you know what's hard for the general populous
          You said yourself that they were easy ("I can PA them by hitting a quad!").

          this is why it's good to have variety in judging files, not just 2 guys with the same mindset
          Tass and I don't always have the same mindset. On this particular issue, we do, though.
          4th Official FFR Tournament - Master division champion!

          Originally posted by Boogiebear
          use ur bain. Itz there for a reason.

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          • itmorr
            Custom User Title
            • Jun 2006
            • 1498

            #65
            Re: SotW - Coat Czech

            Eh Sert at least it isn't Pants v2.




            Originally posted by jwcgator
            (12:31:27 AM) jwcgator2: I got it! I'll write an auto-procrastination program!
            (12:31:33 AM) jwcgator2: meh, i'll make it later

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            • sertman
              DADALADAH
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Jun 2005
              • 3910

              #66
              Re: SotW - Coat Czech

              Originally posted by Shashakiro
              You said yourself that they were easy ("I can PA them by hitting a quad!").



              Tass and I don't always have the same mindset. On this particular issue, we do, though.
              easy? yes. gay? yes. suitable for FFR if you can get the desired result by hitting them in a manner that was not intended by the stepfile author or the stepfile itself? no.


              and the ones in all the TGWP's and in this song aren't easy. they're garbage.

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              • Shashakiro
                TWO THOUZAND COMBO
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Aug 2005
                • 9082

                #67
                Re: SotW - Coat Czech

                Like I said, I don't think that's relevant at all. You can actually do the same thing in SM (to a lesser extent, but you can DEFINITELY PA and sometimes even MA rolls by hitting them as jumps), so I really don't see the problem besides that FFR's timing window is rather large.
                4th Official FFR Tournament - Master division champion!

                Originally posted by Boogiebear
                use ur bain. Itz there for a reason.

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                • Loyal2Death
                  FFR Veteran
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 1032

                  #68
                  Re: SotW - Coat Czech

                  Originally posted by Shashakiro
                  In my opinion, these is no such thing as a file without 4-or-less-frame jack separations that belongs on SM but not FFR, and I don't really buy any of the arguments to the contrary...all I hear is stuff about how the "feel" of FFR is changing, blah blah blah, but the fact is that it's clearly possible and not even that hard to play them on FFR, and "feel" is entirely subjective and up to the individual anyway, so you can't possibly expect us to use that in our judging of files.

                  For the record, I don't find this file very fun at all in FFR. I liked Torinouta, though.
                  Now that is strange to me. That may just be you, and it is opinion, but Torinouta is more of a bitch for FFR that it probably should be. Coat Czech flows, and at least is a bit more unique. Torinouta resmbles a much large SM feel, and Czech is more FFRish.

                  Sertman is merely just stating that it's getting annoying. It is, I'm tired of having 64th rolls, and whether its coincidence or not, the admins have the ability to stop that and change up the queue. Because I know you guys play the files before you put them in, at least we hope. Wasn't exactly the case for lawn wake though XD. Yes it was a joke.

                  We need to take a look at something. If you look at what is played daily, you'll find the songs that are extremely easy at the top, because there are far more beginners than there are advanced players. The files that are being released week in and week out are all things intended for the advanced or better. Perhaps for the SotW, we should release 3 files, one beginner, one intermediate and on advanced.

                  Thats just my opinion/suggestion too.

                  ~-[L2D]-~
                  Edit: And shash, the problem with that last piece is that if its a roll, it should be hit as one. It's kind of like the noosb who mash silence and FC it. The same deal with the rolls. Why would we make it a roll if you can get the best possible score by quadding it?
                  Last edited by Loyal2Death; 12-11-2006, 05:29 PM.


                  Are you Loyal?
                  Nows the time to choose
                  Die and be free of pain.
                  Or live and fight your sorrow.

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                  • ffdfadsdasd
                    FFR Player
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 184

                    #69
                    Re: SotW - Coat Czech

                    That's a muddafukin song to FC.

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                    • itmorr
                      Custom User Title
                      • Jun 2006
                      • 1498

                      #70
                      Re: SotW - Coat Czech

                      A beginner song every week along with the SOTW would be really cool!




                      Originally posted by jwcgator
                      (12:31:27 AM) jwcgator2: I got it! I'll write an auto-procrastination program!
                      (12:31:33 AM) jwcgator2: meh, i'll make it later

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                      • DarkManticoreX2
                        TWG Overlord
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 7355

                        #71
                        Re: SotW - Coat Czech

                        Originally posted by itmorr
                        A beginner song every week along with the SOTW would be really cool!
                        AAA frenzy
                        AAA's = 800

                        Originally posted by V
                        Manti, I apologize for insulting you. Let the record show that I am a prickass douche, and not only that, but that I am a terrible player.

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                        • sertman
                          DADALADAH
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Jun 2005
                          • 3910

                          #72
                          Re: SotW - Coat Czech

                          Originally posted by Loyal2Death
                          Now that is strange to me. That may just be you, and it is opinion, but Torinouta is more of a bitch for FFR that it probably should be. Coat Czech flows, and at least is a bit more unique. Torinouta resmbles a much large SM feel, and Czech is more FFRish.

                          Sertman is merely just stating that it's getting annoying. It is, I'm tired of having 64th rolls, and whether its coincidence or not, the admins have the ability to stop that and change up the queue. Because I know you guys play the files before you put them in, at least we hope. Wasn't exactly the case for lawn wake though XD. Yes it was a joke.

                          We need to take a look at something. If you look at what played daily, you'll find the songs that are extremely easy, because there are far more beginners than there are advanced players. The files that are being released week in and week out are all things intended for the advanced or better. Perhaps for the SotW, we should release 3 files, one beginner, one intermediate and on advanced.

                          Thats just my opinion/suggestion too.

                          ~-[L2D]-~
                          Edit: And shash, the problem with that last piece is that if its a roll, it should be hit as one. It's kind of like the noosb who mash silence and FC it. The same deal with the rolls. Why would we make it a roll if you can get the best possible score by quadding it?
                          yes

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                          • Tasselfoot
                            Retired BOSS
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 25185

                            #73
                            Re: SotW - Coat Czech

                            i'm STILL wating for all those files sert...


                            until you start submitting files to me, i really don't see you having a place to complain.


                            but, on the bright side... we should have plenty of 16th happy files (or easier) coming in the very near future.
                            RIP

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                            • dAnceguy117
                              new hand moves = dab
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 10097

                              #74
                              Re: SotW - Coat Czech

                              holy hell you guys are so bitchy

                              won't even respond to it seriously this time

                              Fun file, great song. Do you just randomly stumble across awesome stuff like this, iPatcH?

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                              • hiyu64
                                FFR Player
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 139

                                #75
                                Re: SotW - Coat Czech

                                File wasnt TOOO bad. I FC'd in 10101^3 tries. I Liked torinouta better


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