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  • #4201
    stepmania archaeologist
    FFR Simfile Author
    qqwref
    • Aug 2005
    • 4092

    Re: Ingame Song Information

    I don't think it's worthy of being FGO... it's hard to PA but not at all hard to hit and not particularly hard to read. So from a AAAing standpoint it's harder than a lot of FMOs, but from any other standpoint it fits pretty neatly into the middle (ish) of the range.
    Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81)
    Best SDG: PANTS (86)
    Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

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    • #4202
      Kawaii Desu
      Event Staff
      FFR Simfile Author
      Elite Ninja
      • Mar 2007
      • 4828

      Re: Ingame Song Information

      I find Kono as a high FMO myself since even though I can get 4-0-0-0 on Skeletor, I cant even get under 40 goods on Kono. Reason why I cant do Kono and can do Skeletor?

      Skeletor: I can EASILY jumptrill all the 32nd walls and and its not hard to read at all imo. (Best = 4-0-0-0)

      Kono: I cant read a lot of the rolls in this chart and on top of that even if I could read it I cant jumptrill them and have to actually have the speed and readablility in order to AAA the walls. I cant read some of the walls nor have the speed to hit some of them. I cant even jumptrill the left to right or right to left rolls accurately like in Skeletor. (Best = 41-0-0-1)

      That is my opinion on the two. Not sure about whether to keep it as FMO or move to FGO but I can not agree with it being a mid FMO >:[
      Best AAA = Aballava(?) + Serious Shit (97)
      Best SDG = Fushigi Usagi Milk Tei 8-0-0-3 (101)
      Best Score = do i smile? 3-0-0-3 (100)

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      • #4203
        Batch Manager
        Game Manager
        FFR Simfile Author
        DossarLX ODI
        • Mar 2008
        • 15014

        Re: Ingame Song Information

        Originally posted by qqwref
        I don't think it's worthy of being FGO... it's hard to PA but not at all hard to hit and not particularly hard to read. So from a AAAing standpoint it's harder than a lot of FMOs, but from any other standpoint it fits pretty neatly into the middle (ish) of the range.
        Agreed with this for the most part, even with the note color madness if you know it's 32nd rolls you can easily just treat it as such despite the colors you're looking at.
        Originally posted by hi19hi19
        oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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        • #4204
          FFR Veteran
          MaxGhost
          • Feb 2008
          • 2141

          Re: Ingame Song Information

          The D5 song (forgot the name) feels much harder to me than spoon. Not sure how that even happened. To me, spoon is a mid-high FMO, like qq said, it's easy to hit, hard to PA. The D5 song is just hard in general.

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          • #4205
            Fractals!
            igotrhythm
            • Sep 2004
            • 6535

            Re: Ingame Song Information

            Originally posted by DossarLX ODI
            Agreed with this for the most part, even with the note color madness if you know it's 32nd rolls you can easily just treat it as such despite the colors you're looking at.
            This is probably why I'm decent at dealing with color gimmicks. It's not the color of the note that's the important part: It's the intervals between successive notes. For example, Toph's OP features yellow-cyan-cyan-yellow sections. After listening to how I was hitting them, I realized that these were just 24th rolls offset by a 16th.
            Originally posted by thesunfan
            I literally spent 10 minutes in the library looking for the TWG forum on Smogon and couldn't find it what the fuck is this witchcraft IGR

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            • #4206
              FFR Player
              Emithith
              • Sep 2008
              • 1784

              Re: Ingame Song Information

              Spoon isn't a FGO, what are you all talking about. lol
              It's probably one of the strongest FMOs ever.
              Oh well, inb4 honki references.

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              • #4207
                FFR Player
                stavie33
                • Aug 2006
                • 1925

                Re: Ingame Song Information

                the colors in the 32nd rolls make for mega lag on my computer and the whole thing ends up looking like a chunkie thrown up vomit of arrows. Also, clearly with my complaints about the difficulty of this and Purple Water people would realize that my skill is absurdly low and making things become very difficult to judge and play unless they are old files that I remember from when I played. I'm really ready to throw a tantrum, I'm kinda pissed that after 2 years since the last tournament where I was heavily misplaced I'm once more placed in a division where everyone is now far, far above my current skill level, which has been evident since the site came back up. Even Rushy has been consistantly better than me. Hell I can't even FC Reality anymore and I was put in D6. I have to wait a whole nother' ****ing year to try an official tournament, and by then I'll probably have quit the game at this rate, which I was going to do before this tourney due to my inability to play. This was my 'may as well have fun before I quit' and when everyone is doing moderate I'm barely popping 30 goods on this song. Clearly somethings wrong with me and yet I'm in D6. It's just frustrating. I probably wouldn't even top 8 D5 currently.
                It's getting better all the time
                I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain)
                The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain)
                You're holding me down (Oh Oh)
                Turning me round (Oh Oh)
                Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

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                • #4208
                  FFR Player
                  Darkbreezee
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 455

                  Re: Ingame Song Information

                  Originally posted by stavie33
                  the colors in the 32nd rolls make for mega lag on my computer and the whole thing ends up looking like a chunkie thrown up vomit of arrows. Also, clearly with my complaints about the difficulty of this and Purple Water people would realize that my skill is absurdly low and making things become very difficult to judge and play unless they are old files that I remember from when I played. I'm really ready to throw a tantrum, I'm kinda pissed that after 2 years since the last tournament where I was heavily misplaced I'm once more placed in a division where everyone is now far, far above my current skill level, which has been evident since the site came back up. Even Rushy has been consistantly better than me. Hell I can't even FC Reality anymore and I was put in D6. I have to wait a whole nother' ****ing year to try an official tournament, and by then I'll probably have quit the game at this rate, which I was going to do before this tourney due to my inability to play. This was my 'may as well have fun before I quit' and when everyone is doing moderate I'm barely popping 30 goods on this song. Clearly somethings wrong with me and yet I'm in D6. It's just frustrating. I probably wouldn't even top 8 D5 currently.
                  well they informed you b4 this , you are getting into the division that is matching your recorded skills ...
                  ofc i can understand you in that, but yet you can regain your skill pretty fast , i have been quitting playing FFR for over a year.

                  +1@Emithith ^^

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                  • #4209
                    FFR Player
                    stavie33
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 1925

                    Re: Ingame Song Information

                    Originally posted by Darkbreezee
                    well they informed you b4 this , you are getting into the division that is matching your recorded skills ...
                    ofc i can understand you in that, but yet you can regain your skill pretty fast , i have been quitting playing FFR for over a year.

                    +1@Emithith ^^
                    That's the reason I'm there, I can theoretically regain my skill, but with finals coming up and literally maybe 4 hours a week to play the game, the chances are slim. If I'm here next year, hopefully I'll do better, but there is no way I can do anything this round, this song is not only lagging up my comp like crazy, but my fingers no longer have the speed required for those rolls
                    It's getting better all the time
                    I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain)
                    The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain)
                    You're holding me down (Oh Oh)
                    Turning me round (Oh Oh)
                    Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

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                    • #4210
                      FFR Player
                      who_cares973
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 15407

                      Re: Ingame Song Information

                      Looks like you got stuck with shit luck. You aren't the only one so deal with it and see you next year

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                      • #4211
                        shots FIRED
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                        bmah
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 8448

                        Re: Ingame Song Information

                        Yeah, stuff happens stavie. Don't worry; I'm fairly sure there are more official tourneys in the near future.

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                        • #4212
                          aka Haku
                          Hakulyte
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 4697

                          Re: Ingame Song Information

                          Originally posted by stavie33
                          my fingers no longer have the speed required for those rolls
                          Jumptrill them, I have 70+ goods otherwise. It's sad, but it's working.

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                          • #4213
                            FFR Player
                            Xx{Midnight}xX
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 8548

                            Re: Ingame Song Information

                            Originally posted by jimerax
                            Midnight: If we have methods for making song difficulties as token song reqs automatically, your idea will be better. Otherwise, difficulties shouldn't be song reqs in the first place, imo (currently, we don't have).
                            Fair enough, but what do you think about expanding the size of the unlock list of unlockable songs to being larger than Oni's Unlock list (Along with updating them both, preferably leaving all but famouz on it. I'm so deadset against it being an unlock simply because it's easier than the current requirement says. Sorry if that makes me kinda biased or pushy even.)

                            Originally posted by bballa48
                            I swear if another person treats Runny like an easy low FMO I am going to lose it.
                            Well Bballa I don't mean like "AW SHIT THIS IS LIKE SO EASY HUR HUR HUR" I recognize it has an extremely difficult section to it, but it's similar to K8107 in the matter of it has one difficult section and the rest is close to a difficulty below it. (The trills being difficult is debatable to me. Personally don't find them that hard, that jack section ****ing sucks I hate that section.)

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                            • #4214
                              FFR Veteran
                              STD_Sappy
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 728

                              Re: Ingame Song Information

                              Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX


                              Well Bballa I don't mean like "AW SHIT THIS IS LIKE SO EASY HUR HUR HUR" I recognize it has an extremely difficult section to it, but it's similar to K8107 in the matter of it has one difficult section and the rest is close to a difficulty below it. (The trills being difficult is debatable to me. Personally don't find them that hard, that jack section ****ing sucks I hate that section.)
                              K8107's progression is almost a foreshadow for a harder section. I think the beginning is challenging in its own way, as is the end. Those trills high key suck.

                              Runny Morning can be compared to Crowdpleaser, simple as that, where the hard part of the song (jack section) is literally to make it hard. The rest of the notes are almost fill-ins, if you will.
                              Number of AAA's: 649?
                              Number of FC's: 700 something
                              Best AAA: Epidermis, Heavenly Spores
                              Join Date: March 12th, 2008.


                              Sappy.


                              Originally posted by Superfreak04
                              He's Sappy.... He deserves his own thread.
                              Originally posted by DarknessXoXLight
                              Amen.
                              Because he's so well known. ;]
                              Lol, I love these people. <3

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                              • #4215
                                FFR Veteran
                                MaxGhost
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 2141

                                Re: Ingame Song Information

                                Amen Iraq is a 12.
                                Also, K8107 is the hardest VC. That or it's a low FMO, because I can consistently do better on other songs than this one. No idea why it got lowered.

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