First official tournament with R3 Air

[Hakulyte]

Re: First official tournament with R3 Air

@Hakulyte
So is it fair to assume adjusting frame rate affects the timing windows of the game? In which case why is 30fps seemingly no different than 55fps accuracy wise. (Obviously 30 fps is choppy as hell visually)
Also any comment on why note skin would affect game play?

Yes, but indirectly. It affects how the game works instead of making the timing window smaller or larger. So, 30 fps and 55 fps should have the same timing window, but 55 fps should be easier to score on in theory because the game should be more fluid which is helpful for chaining patterns and getting a feel of the game. 30 fps is mostly here because it's how the game used to run back in the day, but I don't think anyone would recommend it. It's probably possible to get similar accuracy, but 55 fps should let you be a little more consistent with your accuracy if by example you played the same song 10 times in a row and tried to have a certain amount of amazings.

Note skin is just a matter of how you visually interpret what you see. Color theory (red: 4th, blue: 8th, yellow: 16th etc.) has been useful to learn the game, but that mostly comes to preferences for optimal play. It could affect you if you have some eye limitations too. You may want to swap certain colors. I doubt custom note skins will change much outside of personal preferences with what you see. (e.g: someone is used to a certain stepmania note skin that's not on FFR). Sometimes it's just the little something to keep you from falling into automatisms/mindblocks.

[Elmerz]

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I run fp9 at 144fps on my 144hz monitor and its silky smooth until I start playing 90s and up.

[Zman100]

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Yes, but indirectly. It affects how the game works instead of making the timing window smaller or larger. So, 30 fps and 55 fps should have the same timing window, but 55 fps should be easier to score on in theory because the game should be more fluid which is helpful for chaining patterns and getting a feel of the game.

So then in theory 60fps should result in a better score, but it's worse for majority of players. What causes that transition? That to me is confirmation that frame rate is not an indirect cause of accuracy issues, but a direct cause.

[Velocity]

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So then in theory 60fps should result in a better score, but it's worse for majority of players. What causes that transition? That to me is confirmation that frame rate is not an indirect cause of accuracy issues, but a direct cause.

60fps starts reaching the ms time a single frame takes to render for the game, Flash prioritizes rendering over other things like keyboard events, which can only happen between frames. As such, flash will delay keyboard events till it has time to actually handle them, sometimes up to 4-5 frames later or dropping it completely if it doesn't handle it soon enough. 55fps is around the point where it gives the game ample time to handle keyboard events normally within the next frame.

[Zman100]

Re: First official tournament with R3 Air

60fps starts reaching the ms time a single frame takes to render for the game, Flash prioritizes rendering over other things like keyboard events, which can only happen between frames. As such, flash will delay keyboard events till it has time to actually handle them, sometimes up to 4-5 frames later or dropping it completely if it doesn't handle it soon enough. 55fps is around the point where it gives the game ample time to handle keyboard events normally within the next frame.

Thanks for the comment Velocity TIL.

Any ideas on the note skin issue? I honestly figured it was my personal machine until Pizza said he had issues with different note skins other than the default. (I'm the exact opposite)

[SK8R43]

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For me, 60 FPS is easier to read and hit patterns on, but 55 runs smoother and im used to it more. They're COMPLETELY different though. I use 55 but if i get mindblocked and switch to 60 it goes away(but lags slightly more)

[gold stinger]

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60fps starts reaching the ms time a single frame takes to render for the game, Flash prioritizes rendering over other things like keyboard events, which can only happen between frames. As such, flash will delay keyboard events till it has time to actually handle them, sometimes up to 4-5 frames later or dropping it completely if it doesn't handle it soon enough. 55fps is around the point where it gives the game ample time to handle keyboard events normally within the next frame.

ample reminder to set your framerates to 55 for the tournament