Which stepchart, to you, is as close to perfect as it gets?

[stargroup100]

Re: Which stepchart, to you, is as close to perfect as it gets?

I have to disagree with this. 4k charts can be easily converted to 6k charts, and 6k charts offer much more room for interpretations of the song, granting a wider platform for artistic detail in charts. My 6k chart for Angel Eyes, which is basically a conversion of a 4k chart by MacGravel, is living proof of that.

I used to think this too. then I tried to convert certain charts and found them nearly impossible (drove through ghosts to get here, one of my unreleased lucky star charts, maybe not impossible but very hard to do with chords all night, robotomy very difficult as well, etc). I'm not saying you can't just move notes around make them 6k charts. I'm saying that there are techniques that some charts use that can only be done in 4k and not 6k due to the nature of the technique

just because you gave me one example of a successful conversion that does not prove that all conversions are possible. keep in mind you're talking to the person who led the odi2 6k conversion pack, a guy who converted most of his own charts, and eventually advocated 6k play enough to get a moderate number of people in this community to start following suit

EDIT: BTW, after 6+ years we're still having the same stupid discussion? Lmfao jesus christ you guys.

and we still have creationists and homeopathy. it doesn't matter how stupid something is, if it's something that few people will understand on their own, we will have to explain/teach it until the end of time

[DigitalS3r4ph]

Re: Which stepchart, to you, is as close to perfect as it gets?

Maybe it's just a puzzle that you simply couldn't solve, or the chart in question required a different kind of mindset to properly convert. What you're doing is conceding to failure and that's a cop out. I'm still not convinced. And I know who you are. :P

EDIT: For the record, I'm not doubting that you cannot correctly convert a 4k chart to a 6k one and make it have the same feel, but I do doubt it when you say that one cannot be created at all. Whether or not it's good is up to speculation and purely up to how well the person making that chart finishes the job.

[stargroup100]

Re: Which stepchart, to you, is as close to perfect as it gets?

in one particular case (drove through ghosts) it really is impossible

the climax section I wanted to employ a technique which, in a dumbed-down description, makes the player smash quads on large hits. however, there needs to be large chords in between these quads in order to fill up the space and feel full, but the chords can't be too thick or it just won't have much feel to it besides mindless smashing. as a result, there's a pattern regarding how large the chords in between should be, but also a pattern describing where there need to be spaces

in 4k it turns out the layering scheme works because the spaces occur where the chords can be smaller. in 6k, there's an overlap. you need a lot more of these spaces but that's also exactly where you need larger chords, so there's no way to satisfy both

when you try to do a conversion, either the chords feel way too thick to be able to make any sort of connotation, or the chords are too thin and aren't intense enough, or the contrast between the small and large chords is too drastic to match the feel of the song

I could make a totally different chart using a different layering scheme, but there's no way to actually use the techniques I employed in the 4k chart to a 6k conversion. I wanted to make this conversion quite badly too, because I wanted to see how it would turn out. unfortunately, I worked on it on and off for about 3-4 years before giving up

[DigitalS3r4ph]

Re: Which stepchart, to you, is as close to perfect as it gets?

I feel like it should be fairly obvious that you can't necessarily employ the same kind of layering techniques to a song's 6k chart as you could with a 4k because they are two different types of playstyle. If that is what you were getting at, then I misunderstood the original context of your post.

[ilikexd]

Re: Which stepchart, to you, is as close to perfect as it gets?

HAELEQUIN is fuckin perfect too btw

hi19 and i had to meet up in real life when we stepped this

[Xtreme2252]

Re: Which stepchart, to you, is as close to perfect as it gets?

Party 4 U - vROFL

[hi19hi19]

Re: Which stepchart, to you, is as close to perfect as it gets?

hi19 and i had to meet up in real life when we stepped this

This is an artist's interpretation of what happened that fateful day


And beautiful stepfiles were formed afterwards
like 90% of the stuff in that file that's actually good was by nathan my biggest contribution was shitting a big 24th stream in the middle hi5

[L.B.D.D]

Re: Which stepchart, to you, is as close to perfect as it gets?

rhyhtm game fedora convention

[HeZe]

Re: Which stepchart, to you, is as close to perfect as it gets?

- All i wanna do is touch your powerpoints
- Paraclete
- Battle Ax
- All Of Me
- Unicron Barbeque
- Unshakeable
- Carol of the Bells

[sweet2kill210]

Re: Which stepchart, to you, is as close to perfect as it gets?

I love Twister, Holy Orders, and Spaceman.

EDIT: oh yeah, and HAELEQUIN

[j-rodd123]

Re: Which stepchart, to you, is as close to perfect as it gets?

spaceman, twister, I breathe the cosmos, and mirage garden come to mind

on sm 6key I would say girls and boys and toys, and most of the stuff in the solo rulz pack/solo japan 2 because there's so much good stuff in there

[rushyrulz]

Re: Which stepchart, to you, is as close to perfect as it gets?

This is an artist's interpretation of what happened that fateful day


And beautiful stepfiles were formed afterwards
like 90% of the stuff in that file that's actually good was by nathan my biggest contribution was shitting a big 24th stream in the middle hi5

ded