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  • TC_Halogen
    Rhythm game specialist.
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Music Producer
    • Feb 2008
    • 19376

    #46
    Re: More Classical Music

    Originally posted by Xandertrax
    This is the BIGGEST problem with fantasie impromptu. It's one of my favorite Chopin pieces, but you'd have to completely ignore the polyrhythm to make a halfway decent file, which is the entire point of the piece in the first place. I think people have been trying to chart it for a few years, I've never seen a good one. Like I said before, most of the best classical songs just can't be condensed 4 keys, while maintaining a quality file.
    I'm actually working on this chart now myself - the performance I have is very accent heavy in some spots so the polyrhythms aren't entirely audible in every area, which makes the file someone tolerable.

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    • igotrhythm
      Fractals!
      • Sep 2004
      • 6535

      #47
      Re: More Classical Music

      Not to mention that fast polyrhythms tend to make people rage. All depends on your target difficulty, really.
      Originally posted by thesunfan
      I literally spent 10 minutes in the library looking for the TWG forum on Smogon and couldn't find it what the fuck is this witchcraft IGR

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      • who_cares973
        FFR Player
        • Aug 2006
        • 15407

        #48
        Re: More Classical Music

        i challenge you to an impromptu off aj!!!!! i'll be stepping the song as well

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        • TC_Halogen
          Rhythm game specialist.
          FFR Simfile Author
          FFR Music Producer
          • Feb 2008
          • 19376

          #49
          Re: More Classical Music

          Originally posted by who_cares973
          i challenge you to an impromptu off aj!!!!! i'll be stepping the song as well
          I quit.

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          • nois-or-e
            SponCon Aficionado
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Mar 2007
            • 3250

            #50
            Re: More Classical Music

            Well that was aniti-climactic

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            • LJRoX
              Banned
              • Mar 2005
              • 2762

              #51
              Re: More Classical Music

              Originally posted by TC_Halogen
              I'm actually working on this chart now myself - the performance I have is very accent heavy in some spots so the polyrhythms aren't entirely audible in every area, which makes the file someone tolerable.
              Hopefully it's not an impromptu where the pianist decides to play tempo rubato in the slower parts loool.
              But I can't wait
              It sounds better with it however.
              Last edited by LJRoX; 01-21-2011, 08:13 PM.

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              • MarioNintendo
                Expect delays.
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Music Producer
                • Mar 2008
                • 4181

                #52
                Re: More Classical Music

                Originally posted by LJRoX
                But I can't wait
                Originally posted by TC_Halogen
                I quit.
                Tough luck, LJ
                Long live the arcade!

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                • GLL
                  FFR Player
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 3

                  #53
                  Re: More Classical Music

                  I'm a bit concerned about what qualifies as "classical". Individual performances are unique based on the performer's interpretation. For the most part, making a tempo perfect classical song would sound cold and mechanical and uninteresting. I want to know if a dance remix (other other type of cover) of a classical song would still be considered "classical".

                  The best example I can think of is Kakume from DDR. It's very close to the original Revolutionary Etude by Chopin but in a dance style. Other examples include "V" (Vivaldi's Winter), End of the Century (Ode to Joy), Speed Over Beethoven (Fur Elise), and Beethoven's Virus from Pump it Up (Beethoven's Sonata Pathetique, third movement).

                  Just suppose a producer here wants to do a kickass instrumental dance remix of some classical music for the site. I also have a friend who remixed Moonlight Sonata in a hip hop style, although he's probably taken too many liberties with the original already, but I could definitely pull out some crazy awesome classical music remixes if I really wanted to.

                  Midi's are great, but then you have to convert it to audio, which means finding convincing samples and putting it through pro audio software. Since midi is just "arrangement data" of music that's an arrangement already in public domain, I don't see any copyright issues using classical midi's if you're replacing the samples. The exception would be if live performers actually recorded midi performances using midi controllers (in which case the tempo probably wouldn't be usable to step artists anyway).

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                  • Xandertrax
                    om nom nom
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 1495

                    #54
                    Re: More Classical Music

                    Originally posted by GLL
                    Copyright on classical remixes?
                    Short answer: No. Copyright issues, I'm pretty sure FFR ran into some big problems with Beethoven Virus. People can reuse the tune of classical pieces, since those are in public domain, but once their creative process has touched it and finalized it, it's their product. So not public domain, unfortunately.

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