Fuck Jason :: FFR Batch Submission

Oubliette - Fuck Jason - The Flashbulb [5 / 10]

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"Anything on Alphabasic Label" / https://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showpost.php?p=4273001&postcount=2

Funky remap of a pretty old Flashbulb track, fine blend of my old and new mapping style. Should be fun, maybe a little silly. Fairly new work so could maybe use some touch up / mods.

Simfile Folder Name

Fuck Jason (Oubliette)

Note Count

1411

Chart Length

2:01

Average NPS

11.9441

Estimated Difficulty

78.97

First Note

0:02

Ending Note Delay

0:01

Hand Bias

x -11

Framers

0 - 0 1 - 0 2 - 1 3 - 125 4 - 58

Jumps

								x 286
							

Hands

								x 93
							

Quads

x 0

Color Jumps

x 2

Color Hands

x 0

Color Quads

x 0

Most notes in:

1/3 of a Second
12 - 36.00 nps 0.5 Seconds
15 - 30.00 nps 1 Second
23 - 23.00 nps 2 Seconds
36 - 18.00 nps 5 Seconds
79 - 15.80 nps 10 Seconds
147 - 14.70 nps 30 Seconds
408 - 13.60 nps 1 Minute
772 - 12.87 nps

Color Count

x 549 (38.91%)

x 252 (17.86%)

x 201 (14.25%)

x 269 (19.06%)

x 15 (1.06%)

x 121 (8.58%)

x 1 (0.07%)

x 3 (0.21%)

x 0 (0%)

Largest Note Gaps

0.6s0.6s0.5s0.5s0.4s0.4s0.4s0.4s

A new chart file was uploaded with the following changes:
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Note Count changed: 1400 => 1411
AVG NPS changed: 11.85102 => 11.94413
Hand Bias changed: 22 => -11

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0.033-24.219/1:10.198-1:15.248 - Bunch of missing 12ths within this section
27.441/30.631/38.554 - Was this note supposed to be for the chiptune or for the breakcore? It's off-sync even in both contexts
39.102/59.434-59.633/1:07.407-1:07.507/etc - Should be jump
46.727 - Ghost note
48.670-48.770 - Do a handjack perhaps? Seems you draw the line on 32nd handjacks
49.866-50.132/54.251-54.517/1:24.948-1:25.214/1:54.848-1:55.114 - Technically 3/32nd jumps
56.045-56.245/1:08.803-1:09.002/1:56.642-1:56.841 - Do the usual handjack-nerfedjump thing here
56.643-57.142/58.238/1:01.427-1:01.527/1:09.401-1:09.899/1:57.240-1:57.738 - More hands
56.942 - Sounds closer to 56.892
1:02.225-1:02.623/1:50.064-1:50.463 - Recheck the sync on this section
1:05.015 - Should be single
1:06.211-1:06.610/1:41.094-1:41.294 - Recheck your layering here
1:09.700 - Sounds closer to 1:09.650
1:27.889/1:34.466 - Missing note
1:28.536-1:29.334 - Properly sync this
1:57.539 - Sounds closer to 1:57.489

Too many flavors of technical inconsistencies to count

REJECTED

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Thanks for the feedback, I can agree with many of the observations after having been away from the chart for a long time. If locked as-is, would be better to have it resigned from batch, but I'm receptive to change it for the better.
I assume more judges will have a look at things to determine final status, for continuous improvements the patched version per above post can be seen from my forum post / other profiles ( https://puu.sh/JUSbt.zip ).

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Metadata: Title is incomplete. Change to "Fuck Jason (Pretendo Mix)"

-Watch for rolls/bursts into hands that create a 32nd(or faster) one-hand minitrill. These are generally considered a no-go

-Subjective note, but the chart could do with more variety in its burst rhythms. That is to say, there are a lot of 32nd bursts that don't match in intensity musically. eg. Compare 45.281 to 46.876, functionally identically stepped but the latter is a much quieter sound.

-Kind of want to see the end of the song charted but not a big deal

On the surface the chart is fairly reasonably done, but on closer inspection it definitely needs a fair bit of work for consistency and technical issues. Still, you're on the right track here, and I think it's close. But it'll need some work first.

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Side note, this is a special batch where judges will be posting their feedback on your submission page(s) at their leisure until the end of the year. You will get more judgements. If the judges' votes tally up to a majority Fixes Required or Accept rating, then you'll be able to update the chart directly. At this time we can only review the version of the chart that was initially sent to remain fair to other submissions.
I couldn't tell from your post above whether you wanted to remove the submission from the batch. If you do want it removed, let me know and I can move it directly to rejected status.
For more info about the batch see my posts in the announcement thread https://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showthread.php?t=154476 or send me a DM here through the forum or on Discord

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That is fair, I submitted this one on the pretense that it will need some more work. It will probably be more constructive to judge the continuously updated file (edit - I see that is not really fair to request in this process though, sorry), and out of fairness assume Rejected in this batch per the locked file being a product of inconsistencies / errors. We could use this as an opportunity to make it better for a future batch, I hope that isn't a bad idea.

I may look to iterate upon my fixed version with your feedback in the future. Unfortunately, I didn't have much time towards the end of this year to polish this up for this particular batch, what is locked in is basically the second draft when I usually seek more mods from others.

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As much as I'd love to be able to provide feedback on a continuously updated file, it's not a courtesy that we can also feasibly extend to the 68 other files in this batch. That's part of why we have batches.

We'll leave it open to more judge feedback. I'd recommend waiting until this batch finishes the judgement period (which it finishes at the end of the year) before making too many changes so you have a holistic/complete view of what judges expect from the next version. If you have any questions/concerns, always feel free to DM me or any judge!

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Fair enough, can continue collecting and have something more final for middle to end December.
Could maintain some iterative updates on the side, but not as a definitive version release.

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- How come the 12ths in the intro are not continuous? The ones you omit are consistent, but I can't hear any reason to omit them.

- Rhythms used often lack attention to detail. For some examples:
--> The jump at 27.541 should be a 32nd earlier (27.492).
--> The 16th rhythm used from 27.940-28.239 obscures the 24th gallop starting at 28.139.

- Bursts often feel too continuous/homogeneous for my liking, e.g.:
--> 31.428-31.927 is unbroken 32nds in the same roll patterning throughout, but the sound oscillates and changes quite a bit.
--> 39.103-39.701 is consistent singles, but the sound has two very defined peaks at 39.103 and 39.402. (The latter is not actually included in your burst, since you dropped down to 24ths there and it lands on a 16th.)

- 54.202 is a ghost note and should be removed. Moreover, the 3 jumps from 54.252-54.518 are different from the jumptrill triplet beforehand, so they should be moved to [34] to create less of a collision with the jumptrill.

- Tru's note about the 32nd minitrills is a good one, would recommend repatterning them in cases like 54.949/67.707/etc.

- 87.939: Should be a jump.

You've got a good structural start here, though I feel that a lot of the details need to be clarified and so this would need some pretty widespread edits before acceptance.

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- 0.034: Why are these hands?
- 0.167 etc.: Why are these notes missing?
- 25.648: Pretty sure this should be a 12th or omitted.
- 27.442: Mistimed.
- 27.541: Should be a 32nd jump instead.
- 29.136: Bunch of notes randomly missing.
- 30.332: Mistimed, should be one measure later.
- 40.299: Why no grace note like at 38.903?

Rest of the file kinda suffers from the same issues, I think the file as a whole suffers from missing notes, misrhythms and the structure seems very overlayered.
I think this would need a complete layering overhaul to be acceptable. Alot of the patterns feel too dense and alot of the notes seem to be omitted for no discernable reason.

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4 Reject
Moved to reject.

Thanks for your submission!~

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Appreciate the feedback. I kept notes for whenever I'd want to make a better release of this particular song, unfortunately I just don't have the time and same level of interest as I thought at this current stage, sorry.

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