What's more important, rank or score?

1ll-egal · 03-7-2005, 03:47 PM

Well it has happened to me plenty of times and probably it has happened to you when you got a higher rank than your opponent but then that person had a higher score and you thought you won and I want to clear it up. What counts more if you face someone, if you get a higher rank or higher score?

babybenji2004 · 03-7-2005, 05:38 PM

SCORE SCORE SCORE SCORE SCORE SCORE SCORE SCORE!!!
In tournaments its all about score. Unless its a freestyleing competition.

**GregHead** · 03-7-2005, 11:17 PM

Well, I'll bet you 90% of the people here are going to say "Score isn't good because it puts to much value on later steps", prefering dane points (and, to that extent, rank).

Personally, I prefer rank because it's easier to remember than an 8-digt number. I wish they added pluses and minuses to the rank (ie AA-, B+, etc).

babybenji2004 · 03-8-2005, 03:41 AM

yes but he's talking about when he's going up against someone at the arcade.
For example, You AA a song but the person you are up against has an A with a higher score, they would be the winner.

**GregHead** · 03-8-2005, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by babybenji2004

yes but he's talking about when he's going up against someone at the arcade.
For example, You AA a song but the person you are up against has an A with a higher score, they would be the winner.

Oh...

well personally I would go with neither (I ususally don't like comparing), but if you wanted to compete, then I'd agree with score. Otherwise, I'd hypothetically go with number of perfects. They're all good choices

As a side note, in DDR Extreme USA, if one player gets a lower grade, it is shown without a spotlight. Any other games in the series do that?

**Neonatrias** · 03-9-2005, 11:22 AM

In response to GregHead, I don't believe so. I think EX USA is the only game that does that.

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Originally Posted by babybenji2004

yes but he's talking about when he's going up against someone at the arcade.
For example, You AA a song but the person you are up against has an A with a higher score, they would be the winner.

Not necessarily. Around here, tournaments are decided solely by PA. OK's are worth 3 points, Perfects are worth 2 points, and Greats are worth 1 (I think that's how it works). This is because actual scores are weighted. Arrows at the beginning of the song are worth less than arrows at the end. In effect, it depends where you're playing.

**nestlekwik** · 03-10-2005, 12:20 PM

It goes by how many perfects you have. Score isn't tell-tale because the steps toward the end of the song are weighted more in most of the mixes.

**Chromer** · 03-10-2005, 02:25 PM

That's how I lost at the VB Tourney last year. Me and this guy were in the championship and we both played HVAM for the final on Heavy this was the score.

Opponent

Perfects: 328

Me:

Perfects 303

I still lost because he had more perfects not because my score was higher though. I FC'd the song, but he didn't. I still lost.

B3NJ1 · 03-10-2005, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Neonatrias

In response to GregHead, I don't believe so. I think EX USA is the only game that does that.

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Originally Posted by babybenji2004

yes but he's talking about when he's going up against someone at the arcade.
For example, You AA a song but the person you are up against has an A with a higher score, they would be the winner.

Not necessarily. Around here, tournaments are decided solely by PA. OK's are worth 3 points, Perfects are worth 2 points, and Greats are worth 1 (I think that's how it works). This is because actual scores are weighted. Arrows at the beginning of the song are worth less than arrows at the end. In effect, it depends where you're playing.

There was a tournament at my arcade like that a few years back. I found it in some old message boards. Damn tech tourneys.
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As a side note, in DDR Extreme USA, if one player gets a lower grade, it is shown without a spotlight. Any other games in the series do that?

Festival DDR (jp)
By far my least favorite mix.

**GregHead** · 03-11-2005, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by B3NJ1

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As a side note, in DDR Extreme USA, if one player gets a lower grade, it is shown without a spotlight. Any other games in the series do that?

Festival DDR (jp)
By far my least favorite mix.

I haven't played it, but judging from the songlists, it seems like they might as well as called it "DDR USA". Really, it has all the american exclusives. And the Ultramix ones don't have beginner steps (just like in Ultramix). From what I've seen, the GUI looks the same as Extreme US (which isn't neccessarily bad). But generally, it's basically the US games put on a Japanese disc. Hey Konami, how about doing the reverse while you're at it?

**nestlekwik** · 03-11-2005, 04:29 PM

Well DDR EX USA is based off the format of Festival so that's why they're similar. In older versions in versus (like 2nd), the word winner was displayed with the winning grade.

**igotrhythm** · 03-15-2005, 02:35 PM

I prefer to go with the grade. I mean, it's not too uncommon to see, say, a Standard player and a Heavy player going at it at the same time. Naturally, since the Heavy player has a higher maximum score, of course he's going to get more points (as you know, max score is 10 million times the foot rating). When the grades are the same and the people are dancing on the same difficulty, number of perfects is what counts. I have no idea why combo length isn't weighted, though...

Tsuteto · 03-15-2005, 02:41 PM

Combo was weighted in the old days. They learned that was stupid. Now it is not.

**GregHead** · 03-17-2005, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Tsuteto

Combo was weighted in the old days. They learned that was stupid. Now it is not.

Oooooh, I'm going to "ouch" for FFR1 :P

Bakyurha · 05-15-2005, 01:08 PM

i would say 80% score and 20% rank.

bluff911 · 06-10-2005, 05:16 PM

i say if ur facin some1 total score matters way more. but if ur just plain showin off at an arcade an A
looks pretty nice

DDR_9-footer · 06-11-2005, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by GregHead

Well, I'll bet you 90% of the people here are going to say "Score isn't good because it puts to much value on later steps", prefering dane points (and, to that extent, rank).

Personally, I prefer rank because it's easier to remember than an 8-digt number. I wish they added pluses and minuses to the rank (ie AA-, B+, etc).

on Ex (USA) they have a star

Czechowicz · 07-9-2005, 06:42 PM

DP missing is more important(the amount of greats+goods+all other negative stats) score means nothing. at all. a PSMO score of 90xxxxxx will not tell you anything, because of the great imbalance

Eyoshi · 07-9-2005, 08:40 PM

Agreed. But between the choices of rank and score, I guess rank would be more important because the rank is decided by the amount of DP you have. Between two players, they probably would decide the winner through DP.

KoOk13 · 07-12-2005, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DDR_9-footer

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Originally Posted by GregHead

Well, I'll bet you 90% of the people here are going to say "Score isn't good because it puts to much value on later steps", prefering dane points (and, to that extent, rank).

Personally, I prefer rank because it's easier to remember than an 8-digt number. I wish they added pluses and minuses to the rank (ie AA-, B+, etc).

on Ex (USA) they have a star

The star means you fulled comboed it

03-7-2005, 03:47 PM	#1
1ll-egal FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 90	What's more important, rank or score? Well it has happened to me plenty of times and probably it has happened to you when you got a higher rank than your opponent but then that person had a higher score and you thought you won and I want to clear it up. What counts more if you face someone, if you get a higher rank or higher score? __________________ ________________ \"He\'ll break a promise as a matter of course, because he thinks it\'s fun to have no remorse\"

03-7-2005, 05:38 PM	#2
babybenji2004 Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Yay michigan Posts: 446	RE: What SCORE SCORE SCORE SCORE SCORE SCORE SCORE SCORE!!! In tournaments its all about score. Unless its a freestyleing competition.

03-7-2005, 11:17 PM	#3
GregHead FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 306	Well, I'll bet you 90% of the people here are going to say "Score isn't good because it puts to much value on later steps", prefering dane points (and, to that extent, rank). Personally, I prefer rank because it's easier to remember than an 8-digt number. I wish they added pluses and minuses to the rank (ie AA-, B+, etc). __________________

03-10-2005, 02:25 PM	#8
Chromer Hookers and Blow Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: You heard the robot. No fun. Age: 34 Posts: 4,981	That's how I lost at the VB Tourney last year. Me and this guy were in the championship and we both played HVAM for the final on Heavy this was the score. Opponent Perfects: 328 Me: Perfects 303 I still lost because he had more perfects not because my score was higher though. I FC'd the song, but he didn't. I still lost. __________________

07-9-2005, 08:40 PM	#19
Eyoshi Certified Calendarwhore Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Council is not in session. Age: 34 Posts: 1,044	Agreed. But between the choices of rank and score, I guess rank would be more important because the rank is decided by the amount of DP you have. Between two players, they probably would decide the winner through DP. __________________

03-8-2005, 03:41 AM	#4
babybenji2004 Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Yay michigan Posts: 446	yes but he's talking about when he's going up against someone at the arcade. For example, You AA a song but the person you are up against has an A with a higher score, they would be the winner.

03-10-2005, 12:20 PM	#7
nestlekwik Retired Staff Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nestlekwikland, Ohio Age: 42 Posts: 2,317	It goes by how many perfects you have. Score isn't tell-tale because the steps toward the end of the song are weighted more in most of the mixes.

03-11-2005, 04:29 PM	#11
nestlekwik Retired Staff Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nestlekwikland, Ohio Age: 42 Posts: 2,317	Well DDR EX USA is based off the format of Festival so that's why they're similar. In older versions in versus (like 2nd), the word winner was displayed with the winning grade.

03-15-2005, 02:41 PM	#13
Tsuteto FFR Player Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,312	Combo was weighted in the old days. They learned that was stupid. Now it is not.

05-15-2005, 01:08 PM	#15
Bakyurha FFR Player Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 42	i would say 80% score and 20% rank.

06-10-2005, 05:16 PM	#16
bluff911 FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 20	i say if ur facin some1 total score matters way more. but if ur just plain showin off at an arcade an A looks pretty nice

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