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Daystart
The Tracker/Vigilante chooses on Night 1 which role they would like to be.
The Hider dies if it hides with a Mafia Goon or a Vigilante, or if the person it hides behind dies.
The Detective targets a player and finds out if that player has killed another player or not.
The Psychologist targets a player and finds out if they have the potential to kill, but if the player has already killed, the psychologist will get a negative result.

The Results will come back as Yes or No always.


The Players of the Storm:
1 - DaBack of Packs - VT
2 - Red Blastoise - VT
3 - rzrzrzrzrzrzrzrzrzr - Wolf
4 - storn420 - Tracker/Vigilante
5 - Tokzic ayy - VT
6 - Plopadop - VT
7 - just a box that is round - Hider
8 - Clownpiece heidy - VT
9 - XelNya the gif lord - VT
10 - thesunfan of flags - Detective
11 - THE Charu - Wolf
12 - YoshL - VT
13 - 27ninjabunnies the lone bunny - Wolf




Synopsis of Player Comments:
DBP: I felt you performed as your usual manner but watching you be paranoid is a bit frightening because you begin to panic and sway towards other judgement then the original conceived judgement to begin with to the point you almost forget about the original due to paranoia. Other than that, great performance! Very reminiscent of the Mystery Game.

RB: Played decent, though I really hope you didn't think you weren't going to get flamed by others since this is your first game back. Nevertheless, you didn't let it sink in as usual and put the game in front of the insults so big ups to you duder. Second Judgements are somewhat a sloppy trait as exhibited by your end of game phase posting though you guys prevailed!

rzr: Better luck next time, friend. I feel like you kind of set yourself up into your own death with a handful of your posts but some of your recoveries from some nightly posting were really good. I honestly had a feeling your intentional fighting plan with Charu wouldn't work because like he said, it truly needs to be in the moment rather than planned out because of how simplistic it can be to point out fakeness within a fight. Reread the Dichotomy Game where Tokzic and I on the last phase "fought" cleanly without it being planned and successfully took it home.

storn42: You did well by sniping rzr, didn't do anything your first night other than kill Roundbox by selecting Vigilante, and posted after your death from a lynch (unwarranted death post) with a smartass remark. I'd be careful down the road because I'm sure someone like YoshL (after dealing with myself in games) won't take that shit. Some good exchanges from you but your claim honestly seemed stupendously fake. To me, you built too much hype that it felt like you wanted them to believe it and not bat an eye, making you in a wolf format much deadlier.

Tokzic: Probably the MVP of the game in my opinion. You sealed the game in the end there and you were ever-so relentless against Charu. Besides being floaty during the beginning and halfway portions of the game, you stood solid and formidable as pseudo-bait while driving the points to seal the game for Town victory. Keep it up man! You're still one hell of a scary player when you focus on the game.

Plopadop: That Charu kill hahaha. You played an excellent game where you didn't sound robotic enough to raise suspicion while keeping such a level tone throughout the events of the game. You were almost the voice of reason and other players really needed some of your inputs to actually get the ball rolling for town. Good game and keep doing what you do!

Roundbox: You can blame storn for your death and it was extremely unfortunate that you hid behind him the first night. Nobody picked up that you did mention two people you were going to hide behind and nobody bothered to use that data point hidden in the first phase to further win the game. The game could've been over sooner and Storn wouldn't have had to almost commit suicide if they had listened to that one post.

Clownpiece: I'm not really going to say much because you drop activity in games as usual so I'm just going to give you the old pat on the back and say gg town carried you.

XelNya: Started off strong but fell off later. I felt like you exhibited a Zenith trait where at the end you were willing to sacrifice yourself to get town to win it (or horribly lose it) with more concrete evidence that it wasn't you who was a wolf. Always have fun reading you during games because you are a gif and a meme lord

Sunfan: That D1 work had me impressed. Sadly, you got sniped not only by Storn N1 but also by the Wolves. You mentioned this rarely happens in FFRTWG but it happened to you; ayy! You're always a solid player though I felt your last games were a little shaky but this one didn't show the same qualities and a more solid approach from you.

Charu: Oh man, you got pinched Snivy! I feel like you could've done it had you stated earlier that even though players were reading you softing and eventually "claiming" Vigi that you weren't the actual Vigi but you had some sort of idea on why Storn "wasn't" the Vigi after all. Even with the claim in hand, I would've at least milked a phase by claiming Wolves and You targeted the same player during a phase. Either way, you had a great game, some good duels, and big laughs!

YoshL: Replaced in as a solid player with their own opinions while having to explain several times over the opening post. Got too aggressive at some points where it was misconstrued as a personal attack on RB, and then general aggressiveness followed by YoshL's statement of "This is my typical playstyle" or a reiteration of that. Like I had said during mid game, there were other things that not only players were mentioning but also myself where I took some posts pretty aggressive (this being not you). I look forward to seeing you in the next game.

Bunnies: Yooooooo, I hope you stay and play some more even though you dropped out of nowhere and eventually died from inconsistency!



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Night Actions:

N1:
Sunfan investigates Charu

roundbox hides behind storn

storn becomes Vigi and targets sunfan

rzr kills sunfan

N2:
rzr kills YoshL

Storn targets rzr

N3:
Charu kills Plopadop
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Old 10-29-2015, 10:12 PM   #2
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can we get a list of night actions in the OP?
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Default Re: TWG CXLII - A Storm of Hard and Boiled [Post-Game]

I had a lot of fun hosting for the first time too and sadly being inconsistent on the first phase I tried to be more prompt with the timing and organization. Updating Actions into OP before Bed.
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What can I say?



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Even when I see my plane crashing down, hahaha. I honestly did think I could somehow win this still.

But alas, screw that shit, it's time for me to enjoy Youmacon!
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Really thought Town was going to lose after seeing two PRs go down in the first phase. The lynch on afk-bunny worked out well with rzr being next in spotlight; enough to have the vigi take out him on N2. At that point you guys so thought you were in the bag and had more wolves to go against (at one point some of you thought all three were still alive) when it became just Charu after rzr was shot.

ggs all around, good night!
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bad host

nah, i was heated as fuck at the time, and i'm sorry i was a shit to zenith and others

but seriously if i'm being agressive overly, then tell me
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Really thought Town was going to lose after seeing two PRs go down in the first phase. The lynch on afk-bunny worked out well with rzr being next in spotlight; enough to have the vigi take out him on N2. At that point you guys so thought you were in the bag and had more wolves to go against (at one point some of you thought all three were still alive) when it became just Charu after rzr was shot.

ggs all around, good night!
TBH storn's insistence on lynching Tokzic over Red Blaster, and then Plop's defending of storn, made it seem like they were trying to rush us to 3v3
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I put my hider targets as my two most human reads (aside from dabackpack) and one of them turned out to be the big, mean vigilante

gg good read, I thought plop was wolf for how he reacted about my death
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but it's been said, charu claiming vigi i think 100% of the time puts him at an impossible to win game unless town goes full potato
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storn, look back at this game and learn

if someone is counterclaiming your role, there is very little reason for you not to immediately shift your reads. Regardless of how town oriented you think a player is, if they're counterclaiming you to get you lynched, they're not on your team.
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but it's been said, charu claiming vigi i think 100% of the time puts him at an impossible to win game unless town goes full potato
I was getting a little worried there
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town was beginning to dig itself in a hole

where do potatos grow

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yeah I was pretty confident we'd taken down at least 1 PR, and had almost concluded round was hider (made sense after I died).
Tho all that last minute vote switching fucked with me hard lol. gg storn on the vig, I woulda done the same thing. gg RB for keeping your hands clean and alive the whole game.

thoughts on d3 if charu killed dap/tokzic instead?
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I wanna say town was going potato because I was just that convincing.
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I wanna say town was going potato because I was just that convincing.
your softs matched up with the vigi kills, so it was probably convincing from town perspective
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I sure do love to ACT, dohoho.

The only person to really see right through me was YoshL, and I really don't know how. He was a VT, so I don't know. Maybe it's because I was sassy?
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no, i just got a good grip of your state of mind, and perspective that phase i think.


did i really portray a PR that phase that much? lol
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did i really portray a PR that phase that much? lol
In my eyes, yes, because I couldn't find anything that would even incriminate me. (Oh, probably a few things, but extremely minor)

I'd just assumed you had a check or something.
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also was fair to assume the worst from our POV just like town did, so with how bad you tunneled in on him by that point in game we also had to assume someone might have known something.
I like the sunfan detective idea, didn't seem to work softing hider well tho
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