BPM/Offset

[SithCait22]

Recently, Mixmeister and Acid haven't been giving me an accurate reading on BPMs and Offsets, are there any other programs that will find these things? D=


Thanks
SithCait22

[Oubliette]

Audacity helps me find the offset in songs. I don't know about Mixmeister, round up the last two digits by fives ( ex. if it gives something like 149.98 make it 150.00), if it doesn't work it isn't that hard to find the BPM of the song by ear.

[dood gone krazee]

The song you're trying to find the bpm of probably has unnoticeable bpm changes in it. Here's what I do: get DDREAM Studio, if you're unfamiliar with the program, then read the tutorial and learn to use it. Then, Google "online bpm finder" and there should be a page with a box where you can press a button to count the bpm of a song. Start the song in DDREAM and start pressing spacebar to the beat on the webpage. Then, take the bpm given after about a minute or so and put it in DDREAM. Go through the file and grow/nudge/shrink/move the beats until its synced.

[Oni-Paranoia]

Originally Posted by dood gone krazee

The song you're trying to find the bpm of probably has bpm changes in it.

That sums it up

[dore]

guess and check does wonders

[SithCait22]

Somehow I don't think theres BPM changes. A few songs did, and I fixed those, but the ones with constant BPM's get screwed up, usually due to offset.

[alexdestructions]

You can find the offset by listening to the song at x0.3 rate, and when the 1st beat starts put an arrow around wherever the beat starts at. Then look at the current second (it would show as 0.00 instead of 0.000). Put the panel at the arrow and look at the current second. That would be the offset for the song. (ex: 0.02 current sec. = 0.020 offset)

[Djr Rap dancer]

Originally Posted by alexdestructions

You can find the offset by listening to the song at x0.3 rate, and when the 1st beat starts put an arrow around wherever the beat starts at. Then look at the current second (it would show as 0.00 instead of 0.000). Put the panel at the arrow and look at the current second. That would be the offset for the song. (ex: 0.02 current sec. = 0.020 offset)

Yes it's work.
Use mixmeister to find the Bpm.
use rate .2 to found offset
make yours file
at the end, look at the last arrow in rate .2, change bpm to found the perfect sync. this usually work well when you do it right.

[who_cares973]

or you know DDReam

[alexdestructions]

you gotta be a who_cares973 to use ddream

[dean_machine]

Originally Posted by alexdestructions

you gotta be a who_cares973 to use ddream

DDReamStudio is so easy, a caveman can do it.

[Djr Rap dancer]

Originally Posted by dean_machine

DDReamStudio is so easy, a caveman can do it.

Were is the fun when you got no challenge?

[who_cares973]

Originally Posted by alexdestructions

you gotta be a who_cares973 to use ddream

lol 8)

Originally Posted by dean_machine

DDReamStudio is so easy, a caveman can do it.

it is easy once you get the hang of it

[Patashu]

get out a stopwatch and open up notepad. play the song, start the stopwatch and type a symbol every time 16 beats elapse (that's a group of 4 measures 4 beats long). When you feel you've got enough stop the stopwatch, count how many beats you have, divide the duration by the number of beats (seconds per beat) then divide a minute by that (minutes / (seconds seconds beat) = beats per minute) to get bpm.

If 16 beats at a time doesn't work (song changes more often then that) keep track of a shorter duration at a time. Technically you could count every single beat in your head but this is a better way since it means you only have to focus on how much of the song is elapsing right now.

[Scrab]

Or you can just download that program that imports songs and tells you the BPM in like 2 seconds. Either way. 8).

Yeah, DDReamStudio is awesome.

[Heartseeker7]

If possible you could send a PM to the artist and ask for the bpm.

[Oni-Paranoia]

I sync songs with regular rate (1.0x) and i guarantee my songs are more synced than anyone else. No need to bring sh*t down to 0.3 rate (lawl noobs).

yes that's a cocky statement.

[Bynary Fission]

For offset, I just find the value at .1 or .2x and modify it so the first arrow is within .002 seconds or less (or however accurate I can get it).

For BPM changes, I have a "start point" and "end point". I listen at very low rates throughout the song to ensure a song is perfectly on beat. At very low rates, you can detect even the smallest BPM changes. If there are small BPM changes in a song (say, a metal or rock song), then you go and sync the next few beats normally. If you see it starting to drift, you go back to the last note that was perfectly on beat. This is your "start point". You modify the BPM so the last note you placed becomes perfectly onbeat (this is your "end point"). Repeat as many times as needed.

It probably seems a bit complicated, but it's really easy and efficient once you understand. Of course, if you use DDream then you can skip all that (3.9 for life baby!).