Beginning of Air

Dimitri13 · 12-15-2007, 09:53 PM

Is it just me.. or is the beginning (the first 16th stream) incredibly hard to combo? is there like, some pattern there that's not fluent with the rest? I've tried at least 20 times to FC the beginning but I cannot. I can FC the rest of the song..

**ogmsband** · 12-15-2007, 09:58 PM

it is and index stream so if you play spread it is pretty hard the one handed trills are probably the hardest part

Dimitri13 · 12-15-2007, 10:00 PM

Well the thing is, I DO play index.. And I'm rather decent at it.. But there's just something about it that makes me not combo the beginning..

Solomine Gray · 12-15-2007, 10:08 PM

Whoa.... weird.... I thought it was just me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ogmsband

it is and index stream

I never understood labelling sections of levels under different playing styles. Anything can be done under any playing style if you practice.

powerdown · 12-15-2007, 10:08 PM

I always missed when it goes off into the 864828286482828. I play spread, so of course I had some trouble with it, but I would miss at the same spot every time, about 20 or so notes in, and then go to FC the rest of the song. I dont know what it is about that pattern, but I just could never hit the left arrow.

psychopete · 12-15-2007, 10:09 PM

I play spread and I can full combo the beginning most of the time. :\

Just notice the differences in the patterns and be quick. x3

powerdown · 12-15-2007, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psychopete

I play spread and I can full combo the beginning most of the time. :\

Just notice the differences in the patterns and be quick. x3

Thats basically the point I'm at now. Most of the time, I can FC it. Others its like "Omg fingers wont move fast enough." I guess I need to work on speed, rather than patterns. I can hit most anything, if its at the right BPM (FFFBF comes to mind for a case of I can hit it, its just too damn fast)

**foilman8805** · 12-15-2007, 10:15 PM

I play spread, and I just destroyed it.

It is definitely tricky, but like pete said, you just have to be quick.

**alster1** · 12-15-2007, 10:17 PM

yeah, i play index, and i do find the beginning of that pretty tricky

Roi Siveran · 12-15-2007, 11:35 PM

It's either:
A) the beginning of the song and you can't do certain patterns (I can't do jumpstream at the start)
B) stamina issues (messing up on the trills after?)

**badman7772** · 12-15-2007, 11:37 PM

i'd say it's avmissing sometimes

LLaMaSaUceYup · 12-15-2007, 11:39 PM

I have no troubles.
Jack be quick.

massflavour · 12-15-2007, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solomine Gray

I never understood labelling sections of levels under different playing styles. Anything can be done under any playing style if you practice.

he meant that certain patterns are done easier with certain play styles, not that they can't be done at all with a particular play style.

**remedy1502** · 12-16-2007, 12:11 AM

I agree with you. It's a really easy index pattern, I play 3-finger 2 hands (basically index), but it takes me a couple tries before I PFC that part, or even FC in some cases. Maybe just cause it's the beginning of the song... Who knows? I think it's just cause you're not expecting it and don't have the BPM in your head yet.

**Zageron** · 12-16-2007, 12:14 AM

I play 1 handed three fingers and I was comboing it until a few days ago.

wootxorsld50 · 12-16-2007, 12:33 AM

yeah see i agree

i have played spread a while now

and i used to find it rather difficult for a while.

but i just completely dropped playing the damn song after a while.

then i got a lot better at the game and i tried it again, did it like it was second nature and wondered why it was ever difficult at all.

it is just a matter of skill i guess?

but youll get it.

**Tasselfoot** · 12-16-2007, 02:07 AM

likely avmisses? there are 4-framers in Air. 190bpm.

**tofurox** · 12-16-2007, 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimitri13

Well the thing is, I DO play index.. And I'm rather decent at it.. But there's just something about it that makes me not combo the beginning..

I agree! Cause like, I am an indexer.

**dore** · 12-16-2007, 02:55 AM

It's probably going from up-down-up-down to down-up-down-up, they look very similar but feel very different and if you don't recognize that it can cause trouble.

(BTW I just got 2 goods on the beginning index so you real indexers should be able to combo it no problem)

Xx{Midday}xX · 12-16-2007, 09:39 AM

At first, I thought you guys were talking about Torinouta... I'm like what are you guys talking about?

Real has full comboed it before... I've never full comboed Air before, because of the beginning.

Nevermind. I just did. I don't know, but now I can do it perfectly fine.

Laugh all you want at my PA... >_>

12-15-2007, 09:58 PM	#2
ogmsband FFR Veteran Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tampa, Fl Posts: 792	Re: Beginning of Air it is and index stream so if you play spread it is pretty hard the one handed trills are probably the hardest part

12-15-2007, 10:09 PM	#6
psychopete Quite electrifying. Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: <query unsuccessful> Age: 33 Posts: 833	Re: Beginning of Air I play spread and I can full combo the beginning most of the time. :\ Just notice the differences in the patterns and be quick. x3

12-15-2007, 10:15 PM	#8
foilman8805 smoke wheat hail satin Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: LA baby Age: 35 Posts: 5,704	Re: Beginning of Air I play spread, and I just destroyed it. It is definitely tricky, but like pete said, you just have to be quick.

12-15-2007, 10:17 PM	#9
alster1 What is this I don't even Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: in a VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!! Age: 30 Posts: 946	Re: Beginning of Air yeah, i play index, and i do find the beginning of that pretty tricky __________________

12-15-2007, 11:35 PM	#10
Roi Siveran FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Thirty Miles and South, New Mexico Age: 32 Posts: 118	Re: Beginning of Air It's either: A) the beginning of the song and you can't do certain patterns (I can't do jumpstream at the start) B) stamina issues (messing up on the trills after?) __________________ I fail to AAA.

12-15-2007, 11:37 PM	#11
badman7772 It happens for a reason. Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: North Carolina Age: 34 Posts: 5,622	Re: Beginning of Air i'd say it's avmissing sometimes __________________ like, giggity or something?

12-15-2007, 11:39 PM	#12
LLaMaSaUceYup FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Phoenix, Arizona. Age: 31 Posts: 3,759	Re: Beginning of Air I have no troubles. Jack be quick.

12-16-2007, 12:11 AM	#14
remedy1502 remederpin Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 31 Posts: 4,884	Re: Beginning of Air I agree with you. It's a really easy index pattern, I play 3-finger 2 hands (basically index), but it takes me a couple tries before I PFC that part, or even FC in some cases. Maybe just cause it's the beginning of the song... Who knows? I think it's just cause you're not expecting it and don't have the BPM in your head yet.

12-16-2007, 12:14 AM	#15
Zageron Zageron E. Tazaterra RRR Developer & DevOps Support Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: BC Age: 32 Posts: 6,586	Re: Beginning of Air I play 1 handed three fingers and I was comboing it until a few days ago. __________________ Help Develop FFR

12-16-2007, 12:33 AM	#16
wootxorsld50 FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: some where in MA, US. Posts: 135	Re: Beginning of Air yeah see i agree i have played spread a while now and i used to find it rather difficult for a while. but i just completely dropped playing the damn song after a while. then i got a lot better at the game and i tried it again, did it like it was second nature and wondered why it was ever difficult at all. it is just a matter of skill i guess? but youll get it. __________________ AAA's - 116 FC's - 408 Tier Points - 195 Best AAA - Brooks was here / The Dream of Scarlet Best FC - Turkish March Best Non - FC - Molto Vivace Regional Ranking - New England #7 Feel free to challenge me with whatever. (preferred no credit challenges but w.e) EnR's Insane pwnage topurney for all styles of play (spread med) - 1st Forlorn's Tourney (inter) - 2nd

12-16-2007, 02:07 AM	#17
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: Beginning of Air likely avmisses? there are 4-framers in Air. 190bpm. __________________ RIP

12-16-2007, 02:55 AM	#19
dore caveman pornstar Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ridin on a unicorn Age: 33 Posts: 6,317	Re: Beginning of Air It's probably going from up-down-up-down to down-up-down-up, they look very similar but feel very different and if you don't recognize that it can cause trouble. (BTW I just got 2 goods on the beginning index so you real indexers should be able to combo it no problem) __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

12-16-2007, 09:39 AM	#20
Xx{Midday}xX FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: My own world. Miserable. Disgusting. Appalling. Pessimistic. Horrific. Terrible. Posts: 3,518	Re: Beginning of Air At first, I thought you guys were talking about Torinouta... I'm like what are you guys talking about? Real has full comboed it before... I've never full comboed Air before, because of the beginning. Nevermind. I just did. I don't know, but now I can do it perfectly fine. Laugh all you want at my PA... >_> __________________ Any *FFR song title* discrepancies? List them here. Willing to accurately translate Japanese for free *Accumulating all playstyles here!* つまんないシグでスマソ(´・ω・`) Last edited by Xx{Midday}xX; 12-16-2007 at 09:47 AM..

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