Your oppinion of Sony

[slipstrike0159]

The reason why they jumped in was irrelevant because sony still did appeal to a vast variety of gamers because of their decision to use CD format. You already admitted that it was a very smart thing for sony to do, so i guess what i dont understand is why you are flaming them so badly if you agree that what they did was a major success.

Originally Posted by TS_SonicMaster

Learn to spell before you tell others that.

Yes.. i openly admit my typo, but it became apparent to me that he did not know how to spell it when it was wrong in both the title of the thread and also in his first post, if i were to write my statement again i would have made 'to' into 'two' because thats how i know it is spelled. So I'm sorry for my slip of the finger but i thought it wasnt as big of a deal as having everyone who were just scanning through the thread titles see my mistake.

[tsugomaru]

Originally Posted by Laharl

There's a difference between overlooking some faulty code and releasing a product that has the potential to KILL PEOPLE, or at the very least cause serious wounds and destroy said computer. That's kind of a big oversight. That'd be like including razorblades in the middle of Snickers bars.

Also, that IS why Microsoft entered the playing field. However, they did it with the intention of appealing to the GAMER. Sony entered the field with the PS1 using CD format more or less to appeal to third party developers, who at this point have more or less access to everything they could want as far as power of a particular system goes. Upping the stakes by leaping to Blu-Ray isn't going to be their boon this time. I hope it'll be their downfall, but it's ****ing Sony we're talking about here, so it's not like they're going away any time soon.

Sony's success has very little to do with they themselves. It's purely because they jumped in the video game market at an opportune time when Nintendo decided to stick with an out-moded, expensive, restrictive media type and in the process alienated their strongest supporters (like Square, for example.)

I had a feeling my analogy wasn't going to be right on target.

The thing is, I don't that companies think to themselves when they make a product, "letz scru d customoors". I know Microsoft does not make faulty scripting on purpose just like how Sony does not makes exploding laptops on purpose.

~Tsugomaru

[Magnafiend]

Not saying they did, but if they missed the fact that the batteries have a tendancy to EXPLODE, they aren't doing their job in making sure their product is not a hazard to the public before release, because exploding bateries are a BIG mess up. not saying sony was trying to make them explode, its just one of those "HOW COULD THEY MISS THAT!?!?!?!" type of things. The Lik Sang thing is what really pushed me over the line from "Wish they would put more time into making sure everything worked so consumers didnt get screwed over" to "YOU GREEDY CORPERATE JERK OFFS!"

[Biff_tech]

The reason i said the first one was apple was because i didnt read the "small" print...https://support.apple.com/ibook_powe...tteryexchange/
kept thinking microsoft and sony where working together for some weird reason, but that would be silly considering the console wars...

[Afrobean]

Sony did excellently prior to the PS3.

They've alienated their core by making the PS3 so rare and expensive though. They can easily get by not having a lot of good games at launch, but only manufacturing so many and charging way more for them screwed them up too badly.

And did I read correctly? Did someone in this thread say that they expect Nintendo to go down before Sony? Nintendo is going NOWHERE. The Wii is the popular choice here. Cheap and innovative. Sony is on the decline though. The only way I could see them NOT losing massive dollars from this PS3 fiasco is if the people reselling on ebay are Sony employees and the profits of resale would go back into the company.

ps why did they even bother ripping off the Wii's innovation? Is it even supported by many games?

[Chromer]

I don't expect Sony to go nowhere really. Maybe for THIS HOLIDAY SEASON yes Nintendo will totally kick ass and take names with the Wii. However, once Sony manages to make more stock of the PS3, Nintendo will be lowered to 2nd. Microsoft is just ****ty so oh well. You people have to remember that people are buying 2K-3K Ebay auctions just to get a PS3. There will be people who buy the PS3.

[slipstrike0159]

One opinion i once heard was that sure the Wii will do great at launch and for the first year or two. But sony's PS3 will do a lot better in the long haul, with better graphics, solid gameplay, and many other useful features. The way i see it is that many of nintendo's "cheap innovative" products always seem to break easier than any of the other systems. I'm more than certain that a lot of people will have massive difficulites with the Wii controller or even the console itself as it has been proven in the past. I just think that sony will have a slow start, but it will eventually come back and reign over the others.

[tsugomaru]

Originally Posted by Magnafiend

Not saying they did, but if they missed the fact that the batteries have a tendancy to EXPLODE, they aren't doing their job in making sure their product is not a hazard to the public before release, because exploding bateries are a BIG mess up. not saying sony was trying to make them explode, its just one of those "HOW COULD THEY MISS THAT!?!?!?!" type of things. The Lik Sang thing is what really pushed me over the line from "Wish they would put more time into making sure everything worked so consumers didnt get screwed over" to "YOU GREEDY CORPERATE JERK OFFS!"

I don't mind the fact that you dislike Sony because they sued Lik Sang to death. That was intentional.

Once again, I am going to say that Sony did not intentionally say, "scroo u customoors... i sell you dangerous stuff for srs". Dell built a laptop that needed a lot of power and what can Sony do but try to manufacture a battery pack that can support its power needs? Apparently it wasn't stable. Any other company could have tried making that battery and they probably would have ended up with the same results.

I'm pretty sure one of the reasons why they released the batteries was because they had no problems before. They saw it was okay and release it. It just so happens that problems started after it was released. There really was nothing they can do but call it back for people's safety.

~Tsugomaru

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by slipstrike0159

One opinion i once heard was that sure the Wii will do great at launch and for the first year or two. But sony's PS3 will do a lot better in the long haul, with better graphics, solid gameplay, and many other useful features. The way i see it is that many of nintendo's "cheap innovative" products always seem to break easier than any of the other systems. I'm more than certain that a lot of people will have massive difficulites with the Wii controller or even the console itself as it has been proven in the past. I just think that sony will have a slow start, but it will eventually come back and reign over the others.

...

Are you seriously trying to say that Nintendo products are cheap?

Every single thing made by Nintendo that I own is still in 100% working order despite being old and the fact that I tend to beat the **** out of things from time to time. I've ****ing slammed my Gameboy Color against the ground multiple times and it still functions just as well as the day I got it.

I suppose there are two things from Nintendo that have failed me though... My Pokemon Pikachus. I had the original one and the color one. Both went through the washer at least 3 times each. After a while, the LCD display crapped out. So yeah, I got a Nintendo device to die; it just took submerging it in soapy water MULTIPLE TIMES.

Either way, Sony's only shot at selling as many PS3s as they did PS2s is to lower the price to something that's, i dunno, reasonable for people who don't have a whole lot of money. The PS2 sold so well because it was a solid system with a huge library of games, good graphics, and a not-too-high price tag. As of right now, the PS3 has a very small library of games, good graphics, and a retardedly high price tag. Frankly, I don't think them getting a better library of games will be enough, and I seriously doubt that they'd go from selling for 600$ to anything below 300$.

[MalReynolds]

Originally Posted by slipstrike0159

One opinion i once heard was that sure the Wii will do great at launch and for the first year or two. But sony's PS3 will do a lot better in the long haul, with better graphics, solid gameplay, and many other useful features. The way i see it is that many of nintendo's "cheap innovative" products always seem to break easier than any of the other systems. I'm more than certain that a lot of people will have massive difficulites with the Wii controller or even the console itself as it has been proven in the past. I just think that sony will have a slow start, but it will eventually come back and reign over the others.

Nintendo totally put out the PSP that had the square button off of the censor. And the PS2's don't crap out after 2 years, don't believe that. They still play blue-disc games just as well as when it came out.

I really like the PS2, don't get me wrong - They have a bargain bin at my gamestop where they sell games for $3 (I picked up Tony Hawk 4 and a couple other games last weekend with change from my car), so the library is fairly easy to expand. The system is just pretty crappy. I've had to get mine repaired twice, while my NES from 1990 still works just fine.

[SethSquall]

I neither love or hate sony I prefer to use other companies for my TV, MP3 player and DVD player etc. Only because Sony merchandise are expensive. I have equally good DVD players etc from other companies that cost half the price.

[blitzmage]

Originally Posted by Chromer

I don't expect Sony to go nowhere really. Maybe for THIS HOLIDAY SEASON yes Nintendo will totally kick ass and take names with the Wii. However, once Sony manages to make more stock of the PS3, Nintendo will be lowered to 2nd. Microsoft is just ****ty so oh well. You people have to remember that people are buying 2K-3K Ebay auctions just to get a PS3. There will be people who buy the PS3.

... Ugh you made me put my hand to my head.

I know your a dedicated sony fanboy and It won't really make a diffrence to you but I am pretty sure Sony will be in a ****ty position even after the holidays.

The PS3 generally goes past the comfort zone of most even hardcore gamers. Not many gamers are really willing to put a months wages into just the console.

I don't think you will see many people owning a ps3 maybe even a year after release when it has been cut a few times and is JUST in the comfort zone.

the PS3 also boast about the power of their machines graphics constantly but it seems generally comparing it to the 360 the 360 does do better. As shown in these screenshots







It seems in the screenshot just above that the PS3 debatably overall wins in the last picture since the 360 seems to like to bloom effect the **** out of their games. Although I must say i prefer the 360 versions in the other pictures.

I am also rather hating your anti microsoft stuff as I didn't really like the xbox due to multiple same genre games. The 360 is actually quite a decent console and it is shown they are willing to put alot of unique and intresting genres to their console now. I actually would like to buy a 360 as it has alot of games that I find suitable to my taste and fun.

You really can't disreguard and blatently hate consoles like that because they are not sony. Give reasons for likes and dislikes.

I won't really get into the terrible decisions sony made and how their gaming company side seems to be full of pompous twats.

[Magnafiend]

Also, It has been proven that the quality of graphics between blu-ray and normal DVD is barely noticable to people who were actually LOOKING for the differance. The only real plus side to blu-ray is the fact it can hold godly ammounts of information, MUCH more than anyone would need, and its price shows it. It is just way before its time really, and PS3 deciding to use this technology and STILL lose the graphics war with the 360 just kinda makes me want to lmao.

[lord_carbo]

Haha nice, Blitz.

I really really really want a PS2 because I'm an absolute failure for not having one, and I know exactly what games I want for it. The PS2 in terms of hardware is bad in both reliability and power, but I've never concerned myself with that too much (well, at least power) and it has some nice games.

The PS3, though, is horrible.

I do own a few Sony products ... I like their burnable CDs, although I've burned Kirlian Selections two times and each time I had a problem with the CD somewhere (might just be my CD burner, though, I'll try burning it at 8X the third time). My sister has a boombox by Sony that's about 3 years old and it works fine Well, she never used it much anyway. She claimed it didn't play burned CDs, but I don't have that problem (with Sony CDs at least).

I also really hate Sony as a company.

[Laharl]

The PS3 is basically an over-engineered waste of money. It's more powerful than gamers need, and WILL need, for quite some time. Gaming companies are just NOW pushing the PS2's graphical engine to its limits.

As for my comments on them jumping in at an opportune time, you have to realize it wasn't even their idea originally. Nintendo was working with them to create a CD-drive for the SNES and then the N64 once they decided to do that, but things started to go awry because neither company could get along so Sony said "We'll just do this ourselves." Smart business move, to be sure. They made a horribly buggy console that wasn't finally honed into a workable machine until after it was past its prime, though. How many people here have had a faulty Playstation? I had two of them. I was also one of the massive majority of people who had a Playstation 2 in the first year of it being out, which means I had to purchase a second one of those once my system took a **** on itself just a month after the warranty expired.

I also don't get the Microsoft hate. The 360 is a pretty good system, guys. It has a nice controller, is plenty powerful, offers quite a good internet service, and is getting good third party support. It's still relatively new, but has had some really cool titles so far. I don't own one. Probably won't for quite awhile because I don't have any money, but if I did, I wouldn't hate on it simply for being Microsoft.

Oh, and who's the idiot that said something about Nintendo having systems that don't last long? I remember EGM doing everything they could to their white GBA demo unit they got before the system launched that they dubbed "Jesus" because they dropped it from over 15 feet, flushed it down the toilet, spilled coffee on it, etc. etc, and it still worked. I also remember an episode of X-Play where they tested the durability of this latest generation of consoles. The PS2 broke really quick (I forgot what the first test was), the X-Box took a lot of punishment but didn't survive the long drop from like 50 feet because of how heavy it is, and the GameCube kept working even after they punted it with a ****ing sledgehammer. They would have had to replace the disc tray cover, but it still booted up, which is the important part.

Anyway, relevant to this thread:
http://www.whattheboat.com/

ThunderClaw's latest rant and the crew's replies.

[Magnafiend]

Originally Posted by Laharl

I also don't get the Microsoft hate.

Simple, fanboys who idolize their favorite company and say everything else just sucks. I agree wit you that Xbox is an amazing system, its game library just doesnt appeal to me.

[lord_carbo]

Originally Posted by Magnafiend

Simple, fanboys who idolize their favorite company and say everything else just sucks. I agree wit you that Xbox is an amazing system, its game library just doesnt appeal to me.

Quite honestly I think the Xbox was a horrible system in terms of software selection. The size of the thing was huge, too, which isn't exactly appealing.

On the other hand, I think the 360 is pretty decent.

[Nataka]

I enjoy the ps2, not so much the ps3 (so far). I have a 360 and I want a wii. Sure I love making jokes about sony but I don't defend them to much.

[slipstrike0159]

Ahaha, I'm not trying to be a stubborn fanboy, but i guess it has just been me that the company hasnt been kind to. I constantly find that my gamecube cant function really well after multiple uses and even though the nintendo 64 was an amazing system i found that i would have to try SEVERAL times turning the power on and off replacing the game and trying again to get it to turn on properly. Also, all of my friends who have had a DS have hade a major problem with having thier touch screens being scratched very easily. I have a DS and i didnt have that problem, and i personally liked the multiplayer feature a whole lot, but the batery hasnt been very nice at all. Like i said, i may be the only one, but i have had a lot of problems with nintendo because of what SEEMED like a lack of durability. I own all of the systems and treated them all just about the same, so thats where i find my basis for arguement.
As far as the xbox goes, it was pretty bulky and when it first came out it had a limited selection of genres compared to the others. It is more directed towards a set crowd of gamers instead to appealing to the general community. Plus i was unlucky enough to have my xbox fried because of the power cord making me replace it and have all of my saved game files erased.
Now dont get me wrong, i have had my fair share of sony problems too like their walkmans, boomboxes, controllers, etc. But i guess what i was trying to get across is that i have found MORE and more severe problems with the others.

[Magnafiend]

yep, evryone has their problems, i know what you mean. My gamecube suddenly wouldnt read disks for some reason and had to be replaced at one point, but other than that Nintendo has been good to me, and most of the other companies as well actually.