TWG CIV: FFR Tournament - Reality Parallax

[dAnceguy117]

sure. in #396 you give credence to the idea that you'll flip red. yes we all know you've claimed VT, and yes there's a red miller in this game, but you seem pretty worried about it. I think it's because you already know what you're going to flip.

also I think Riot is a wolf and the interaction (or lack thereof) between you two looks ultra sketchy to me.

[pntballa18]

Originally Posted by James May

You also forgot that there is a miller as well pnt. And i do concede that I jumped to the conclusion that xiv was MW, but why are you hasty in assuming that I come back as a wolf if miller comes back as a red as well?

I didn't forget. Just like I thought it would be a bad idea to assume Xiz is the MW after a green flip, I think it would be a bad idea to assume you're the miller if you come back red.

[Gradiant]

Originally Posted by Silvuh

So Gradiant, will you be moving your vote?

No. I believe James is still more suspicious than the 4 I had listed and my vote will reflect as such.

Originally Posted by Silvuh

You didn't post again until a vote right back on James (#347) in the next phase. Your clarification (#356) repeated a lot of pnt's sentiments about the Xiz lynch, so it's good that we agree that it was a big, fishy mess.

Same as above response, James is still strongly suspicious of me and it was somewhat agreed in the Skype Chat that he would be a strong candidate.

Originally Posted by Silvuh

You pointed to the first four people to vote for Xiz after #278 as being a teeny bit suspicious ... but that was all.
Have you expanded on those suspicions?

No. At least not yet. Because as I said in that post, those were only slight suspicions that could just as easily have been excitement of something large going down like what happened. I still stand with James being more suspicious and a better vote because if he's red = good for us. If he's green = he has done nothing other than butthurt arguing alongside the slight slips and contradictions I have mentioned him making before so we wouldn't be missing much. If he is out this phase, people will stop voting for him and lean towards the only slightly suspicious people so that will take care of that last little bit of my previous post.

Hope this explained what you wanted.

[pntballa18]

Fojar is going to come back day 3 having never read either this post or post #395.

[dAnceguy117]

Riotpolice just told me he hasn't added James May on Skype and was unaware that James May had a Skype account.

Riotpolice and James May were talking at the same time in the TWG Skype group last night. James's nickname there is James May.

interesting stuff

[Riotpolice]

James May

[yo man im awesome]

Originally Posted by dAnceguy117

Riotpolice just told me he hasn't added James May on Skype and was unaware that James May had a Skype account.

Riotpolice and James May were talking at the same time in the TWG Skype group last night. James's nickname there is James May.

interesting stuff

waaaaat

[Charu]

Ooo... looks like someone got found out.

[Charu]

What's up Riot? Why'd ya do that?

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Riotpolice

Too early to insta someone, we need to take our fucking time holy shit...

Round ends on the 23rd 11:59pm

This quote, you suddenly changed your mind?

Oh la la la

[YoshL]

Very quickly, the council decides to lay the smackdown on the James.

*one more to add to the list of eternal sandbaggers*

That would be the case...but

James May is removed, and upon replay analysis comes up AS GREEN AS SOMEONE WHO AAAed THEIR ROUND SONG

(7) James - pntballa, charu, gradiant, krauthammer, fojar, danceguy, riotpolice
pntballa - James
Riotpolice - mellonxcollie, yo man
gradient - silvuh

Remaining players (12)

1. Riotpolice
2. Xiv removed day 1
3. thesunfan eliminated night 1
4. Charu
5. dAnceguy117
6. Krauthammer
7. Funnygurl555
8. Silvuh
9. pntballa18
10. mellonxcollie
11. James May removed day 2
12. Svaz
13. Gradiant
14. yo man im awesome
15. FoJar

Night 2 will end in 24 hours, on Saturday, November 23rd at 5:00 PM EST.

[pntballa18]

don't worry guys, he was DEFINITELY the master wolf

[Krauthammer]

Xiz and James are the Master Wolves

[Riotpolice]

Originally Posted by Krauthammer

Xiz and James are the Master Wolves

^ my thoughts exactly.

[Svaz]

I'd be more willing to believe that we're down 3 pro-town roles and everyone needs to chill the fuck out and think things through. Like, holy shit, people get DEFENSIVE when they're UNDER SUSPICION? No fucking way, that is totally sketchy we'd better just kill them all. You're right, I don't know why I'd think anything otherwise.

For serious though, moving to lynch someone because they, get this, defend themselves is ridiculous. What would one more day of deciding really have done to harm the town? I'm inclined to believe a) there is definitely at least one wolf within the group that moved for insta and b) that there are likely multiples. I don't think any of them would go as far to overtly agree with each other in the thread, but yeah.

From here on out, I think the safest thing to do is abstain from piling votes onto any one player until the end; I have the strongest inclination that all of the wolves are still alive and allowing a relatively easy in to lynching "suspicious" players is something to avoid.

pnt, if James was posting with the assumption that he was going to flip red, why would you insinuate he's the mw now? I'm more or less inclined to believe he was being sincere about being human, especially with his defeatist "enjoy killing a town suckas" type commentary within the skype chat.

[pntballa18]

yeah i was just being sarcastic about the MW thing, mimicking what was said after Xiz flipped green.

For serious though, moving to lynch someone because they, get this, defend themselves is ridiculous.

That actually didn't happen at all, james didn't really put up any defense for himself outside of saying "I act like this every game" which isn't really a defense.

[Charu]

Protown...

Protown...

Are you suggesting that all of Jame's post, including his instant drabble into meta when people were calling him out, was PROTOWN!?

Not to mention, he was constantly saying he was a town, even going as far as bolding and coloring the green because "lol, look, I'm so suspicious, but the way I'm going to play these accusations is just keep saying I'm such a vanilla townie, oh geez lo-weez ma darlin'".

YOU EVEN SAID THIS WAS NOT A GOOD THING. <----That's a link to you quoting James.

[yo man im awesome]

Originally Posted by Charu

Protown...

Protown...

Are you suggesting that all of Jame's post, including his instant drabble into meta when people were calling him out, was PROTOWN!?

Not to mention, he was constantly saying he was a town, even going as far as bolding and coloring the green because "lol, look, I'm so suspicious, but the way I'm going to play these accusations is just keep saying I'm such a vanilla townie, oh geez lo-weez ma darlin'".

YOU EVEN SAID THIS WAS NOT A GOOD THING. <----That's a link to you quoting James.

I believe when he said "protown" he basically meant "townie" instead of "Master Wolf".

If he means what you're saying, however, then I agree.

[Svaz]

Not referring to his play style, just the inherent alignment of the vanilla human role itself. After talking it out a bit, I reluctantly concluded that with his penchant to attract controversy that it's better for something like this to happen now rather than closer to the end where someone could easily pin him as a lynch and get a large following.

I still don't feel like the way things went is ideal, but to focus on that to excess benefits nothing.

[Svaz]

I still think saying "no I'm totally a human" is the most ridiculous post ever, don't get me wrong. I'm saying that we probably haven't killed a single wolf yet and that we need to read with caution.