6th Official FFR Tournament - Is over, Congrats to all our winners!

[jprox445]

Originally Posted by psychoangel691

Originally Posted by psychoangel691
We look at individual ranks on EVERY song. Numbers like AAA/FC/Overall don't mean really anything. Plus nothing is set in stone anyway. It was your FGO SDGs that pushed you to D6.

I should probably point out why AAA/FC/etc counts don't matter. The number of AAA's a person have isn't a good deciding factor because someone may be too lazy to go get the lower level files where as someone else may strive to get all the AAAs they can. FC's don't really mean anything because you can go and get 343/45/0/3245645y3658475 on something but then say get 1/0/1/0 on it. Obviously the person who didn't FC is more skilled at the song. Overall rank is nothing more than how much you've whored the game and finally Tier pts and average rank is in the same boat as AAAs, some people go after it some don't.

God I look like such an "IDIOT" now... sorry bout that Psychoangel... :S thanks for clearing it up. mabye i should spend more time balancing out my scores rather then trying to play the impossible all the time.

[MinaciousGrace]

Originally Posted by jprox445

play the impossible all the time.

actually this is precisely what you need to do if you really want to become "top tier"

[shadow 1800]

I think i'm still too rusty lol, best I can do on The Rapids is 6 goods haha, especially with that trill.

[jprox445]

Originally Posted by MinaciousGrace

actually this is precisely what you need to do if you really want to become "top tier"

I think I didn't realise how much cometition I had in the community.
Mabye this is an eye opener to play better/harder.

either that or I got placed incorrectly, But i "DOUBT" that's what happened.

but then again... I havnt played in a seriously long time do to lag, and i just managed to fix it at the start of the Tourney... Hmmmm

-U know what? SCRATCH ALL THAT!-

I've actually improved today.. my file reading has gotten better from playing the song so much.. just gotta remember.. "Breath" and "Take small breaks" XD

[CammyGoesRawr]

tHE lAST ARROW!!!! D: nerves racked up and stabbed me in the back

cammygoesrage...cammygoesfuccingrage.

[psychoangel691]

Originally Posted by Ryusei_

From my own personal observations so far, there are a good number of people that do seem to be rather misplaced.

People are not "misplaced" according to their stats they are capable. I said before this even started that skill drops would NOT be factored into the division placements because it's too much of a liability. With a tournament that lasts two months if I place someone down that is normally capable of the division they would normally be in, they're likely to destroy the division below them in later rounds from gaining skill back. And how would that be fair to those who actually belonged there the whole time?
The fact is if you try hard enough the skill you once had is achievable again. When I had my daughter I didn't play for months and yea I had like a week or two that I wasn't quite up to par but then I was actually BETTER than I was. There was 10 days before the start of the tournament that people could have practiced and there's a week for this round. The problem is people don't want to try it's just "this is too hard, I don't belong here" rather than giving their all and gaining that skill back.

Originally Posted by jprox445

God I look like such an "IDIOT" now... sorry bout that Psychoangel... :S thanks for clearing it up. mabye i should spend more time balancing out my scores rather then trying to play the impossible all the time.

You're not an idiot, I just wanted to pull that post back up 'cause it gives a better explanation about why we do it the way we do.

[jprox445]

Originally Posted by CammyGoesRawr

tHE lAST ARROW!!!! D: nerves racked up and stabbed me in the back

cammygoesrage...cammygoesfuccingrage.

Ouch! but nice Blackflag :P I'm still getting ****ed up on the triangular pattern, but now it's the jacks that are ****ing me up too now!

[TC_Halogen]

Nice score there Cammy. If nerves are what's stopping you from getting the AAA then convince yourself that you have what it takes to actually pull out the perfect score.

I do this a lot and while it often yields to frustration, it just leads to nonstop play until I get the desired result.

[jprox445]

Originally Posted by psychoangel691

The fact is if you try hard enough the skill you once had is achievable again. There was 10 days before the start of the tournament that people could have practiced and there's a week for this round. The problem is people don't want to try it's just "this is too hard, I don't belong here" rather than giving their all and gaining that skill back.

The problem with me is that I signed up 3 days before first round :S I know that's not an exscuse but.....
You know what.... the file is becoming slightly easier to read.. mabye a little more patience and consistency and i might have a fighting chance!

I have till Tuesday anyway Right?

[CammyGoesRawr]

Thanks AJ and jprox (: i'll try that out. Welp, at least i'm in round 2 for sure.

and jprox, yup. Round ends tuesday at 10:59pm server time

[Ryusei_]

Originally Posted by psychoangel691

People are not "misplaced" according to their stats they are capable.

Looking at some of the people in D4 (again, because this is largely the division I have really looked at) comparing some of their levelranks to others in D4, the competition there is still lacking. The top end being people that have a good number of 10's AAA'd and the lower end being people that have maybe a few and typically not impressive scores on 11's+

That seems like a pretty big disparity to me. I don't really wanna stay on this subject because I've seen people get booted from tournaments for less than this, but I did want to voice my concern over it. Mostly because it seems like you're not open to any amount of discussion on the matter. This being the first tournament in a while, I feel like discussion is warranted. As it stands though, it's more like "it's my tournament. I'm right, you're wrong. The end."

If I'm alone in this, I'll happily stfu, drop it and go back to whoring my given song. But I don't feel like I am =/

[jprox445]

Originally Posted by Ryusei_

Looking at some of the people in D4 (again, because this is largely the division I have really looked at) comparing some of their levelranks to others in D4, the competition there is still lacking. The top end being people that have a good number of 10's AAA'd and the lower end being people that have maybe a few and typically not impressive scores on 11's+

That seems like a pretty big disparity to me. I don't really wanna stay on this subject because I've seen people get booted from tournaments for less than this, but I did want to voice my concern over it. Mostly because it seems like you're not open to any amount of discussion on the matter. This being the first tournament in a while, I feel like discussion is warranted. As it stands though, it's more like "it's my tournament. I'm right, you're wrong. The end."

If I'm alone is this, I'll happily stfu, drop it and go back to whoring my given song. But I don't feel like I am =/

I think D4 sucks... but im not ready to give up yet...

But i swear to god, if I get disqualified from D4 round 1 and come back and do better then most in round 2.. I say its the fuccing song.... I would total do another song instead with only limited time to do it... :S

[Sephiroth28]

I feel like no matter what is done or said there is gonna be someone unhappy. Sometimes people just need to suck it up.

[jprox445]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth28

I feel like no matter what is done or said there is gonna be someone unhappy. Sometimes people just need to suck it up.

True True Very true..and that's why I'll suck it up and hope for the best
although im staying true to my word... this song...I'll never play it again after the tournament XD

[justin_ator]

Better AAA it now then.

[psychoangel691]

Originally Posted by Ryusei_

Looking at some of the people in D4 (again, because this is largely the division I have really looked at) comparing some of their levelranks to others in D4, the competition there is still lacking. The top end being people that have a good number of 10's AAA'd and the lower end being people that have maybe a few and typically not impressive scores on 11's+

That seems like a pretty big disparity to me. I don't really wanna stay on this subject because I've seen people get booted from tournaments for less than this, but I did want to voice my concern over it. Mostly because it seems like you're not open to any amount of discussion on the matter. This being the first tournament in a while, I feel like discussion is warranted. As it stands though, it's more like "it's my tournament. I'm right, you're wrong. The end."

If I'm alone in this, I'll happily stfu, drop it and go back to whoring my given song. But I don't feel like I am =/

You do realize that EVERY division has this right? Did you also take the time to compare those people from D4 with those in D3, especially the lower D3 players? They'd be absolutely destroyed by these people. The people in D3 pretty much consist of heavy gets with a few 10's SDGd maybe one or two AAAd if they're the lower level 10s. There is NO possible way to have it even with 6 divisions. If any division actually has any right to complain it's D6 because their skill difference is drastic, but unfortunately it's the nature of these tournaments.


Edit: Oh and as per the "it's my tournament I'm right you're wrong" comment, did I not move you down when you pmed me about your placement? People had the chance to come to me and find out why they were where they were, and if they could be moved they were.

[wildfireskunk]

People are always going to be unhappy with division-based tournaments, because a lot of people won't be clearly in 1 division. Much in the way that there is such an uproar over a lot of the ratings regarding songs (let's look at D4s song in this very tournament), there were probably a ton of people who were looked at, and it wasn't really clear where they'd sit. "Put them in D4? Well, their stats suggest that if put in D3, they'd perform incredibly well against everyone and probably win. But then again, here in D4 they're barely sitting above the average mark." I'm sure there were situations like that a LOT, and all you can do is make a judgement call. You'll get some people who will struggle to get past the first couple of rounds, and some people who will dominate and be the favourites, but you can't blame the organisers of the tournament for placing them 'incorrectly' when this will ALWAYS be the case due to the extremely varied skill levels of the entrants. You'd probably need about 50 divisions if you wanted everyone to put into the 'correct' one, and even then you'd have people who looked better.

[popsicle_3000]

at least it is the minority that are complaining. what have there been, 10, 15 people that have posted about divisions? that means that there are 550-560 people ok with their division

EDIT: can i just add, LAG!!! AAAAAAAARG

[Hakulyte]

Just need to re-invent FFR and make it so we have a system that gauge perfectly how good someone is so this tournament suddenly have perfect groups. ..or deal with the fact that current stats are not the greatest measure to figure out exactly where someone should be. The more people there is in a tournament, the more likely it is that the percentage of slightly misplaced people goes up. Can you blame hosts? Not unless you come up with an amazing system doing their job better than them. Oh, look there's no threads about placement systems anywhere on forums. How strange.. better make one and use all this misplaced constructive criticism into something amazing and have a tea party once this drama is over. Oh wait, I'm also part of the drama and complains.. *slap self* but yeah, how would you guys do this?

[jprox445]

Originally Posted by popsicle_3000

at least it is the minority that are complaining. what have there been, 10, 15 people that have posted about divisions? that means that there are 550-560 people ok with their division

EDIT: can i just add, LAG!!! AAAAAAAARG

This makes me looks even worse :C sorry....