Ingame Song Information - Page 64

**Tasselfoot** · 07-1-2008, 09:14 PM

it's 208, actually.

**Plan_Bsk81127** · 07-1-2008, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpammyMcSquirrel

The BPM of Eternal Nightmare is 200.
EDIT: 208.
Thanks Tass. That'll really help with my EN Sim.

YES, finally someone is makin one. I have the MP3 ready to be stepped on SM, but I suck at steppin. I have no easy way of doing it.

P.S. Is Pwntendo like the highest VC, cuz that crap plays like a FMO or harder then some FMO.

Angel of Solitude · 07-2-2008, 09:05 PM

My' opinion and questions

1. Novo Mundo, although is easy for a FMO, the rolls make it easiest FMO in the game, but I wouldn't change to VC just yet

2. GoSW SHOULD be VC, I could AAA if I whore it, I've AAA'd it before legit, and I can always do it again, but I am lazy now

3. Pwntendo is way overated, extremely easy VC, I've AAA'd almost every time I play it

4. What would Scythe of 13'z be rated? High, mid, or low FMO? I'd got with mid -high, don't know, harder for me to PA than Big Blue (Big Blue: 16-0-0-3, Scythe 13: 31-0-0-1)

5. Pure in Asia would be rated what? It tookz me a while to AAA that shiz because of 16th jumpstream with 32nd/24th burstz thrown in

Sorry, I've used Z's at the end of words since 2nd grade, sorta a habit by now

lxDestinyxl · 07-2-2008, 09:17 PM

Please don't talk like that. You may result in bad reputations and less respect for your inputs in discussions through the forums.

Have a read through the rules and stickies. I have linked a couple here:

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**hi19hi19** · 07-2-2008, 10:27 PM

What's so hard about Setsujou! Hyakka Ryouran that puts it above stuff like Lawn Wake IV? I mean, there's the jack at the end and a few jacks scattered in between, and it's a VC otherwise. Way easier to PA than LWIV and the 24ths in Setsujou are a heck of a lot simpler than the crazy burst stuff in, say, Rottel.

Explain plz

Angel of Solitude · 07-2-2008, 10:59 PM

I'll explain, because you're wayyyy off hi19, I'm new, either you aren't good at the game, or you are just better at jumpstream, but either way, here's why:

I got Oni from AAA'ing Lawn Wake IV, it's just 217 BPM 16th stream, which sounds bad, but the patterns are basic, nothing to confusing, the only hard part to PA is the 32nd roll resulting in a 3 note 32nd roll ending in a 16th (making it confusing), Lawn Wake patterns are mainly rolls/trills

But Setsoujo Hyakka Ryouran, on top of the horrible jacks, the patterns are rather complecated, put a lot of stress on your right hands, some annoying patterns include:

Runningmen
One handed 16th triplets with breaks, repeating, then leading into alternating one handed 8th jumps
annoying jumpstreams with hard patterns

with all these and a song longer than Lawn Wake, at 180 BPM, you've got yourself a good mid FMO song

**hi19hi19** · 07-2-2008, 11:09 PM

I'm decent enough to get 20 goods on Setsujou...

I guess the patterns and right hand bias in Setsujou don't bother me. I got 20something goods sightread on Setsujou but I've had to whore a bit just to get LWIV goods down to the 50s.
Oh well. I've always been different in my file preference.

Xx{Midday}xX · 07-2-2008, 11:18 PM

Scythe of 13 is not an FMO imo. It's a sort of easy version of AIM. The only hard part would be the (I have no clue why they're there) 16ths in between the jumps.

Setsujou Hyakka Ryouran is certainly an FMO, but the only problem I have is the hand jack in the beginning. Length is nothing compared to songs like BB Evolution, and I never found a runningmen pattern as a challenge. JSs are easier than EHHS.

I find LWIV hard to PA also.

Angel of Solitude · 07-2-2008, 11:27 PM

@midday

EHHS is MUCH harder than any jumpstream in Setsujou, and runningmen aren't a problem for me either, just for most people, and it is true that length is no much of a matter in that song, just saying it's longer than LW, also, I just noticed stamina wise, to me it's more draining on my hands than BB evo, mainly cause' BB evo is rather simple except for 2 parts that always kill me, the long 8th jump part (which I can easily AAA, it's just hurts my hand), and the long 16th stream that follows (my hands are tired by then and I get an awful lot of goods then)

also, my scores on those songs throughout history (includes my 3 years unregistered)

LWIV: AAA
Setsujou: 6-0-0-0
Scythe: 31-0-0-0 (huge stamina drainer if you ask me, is really easy except the 16th's in the jumping jacks make me screw up a few of the jumps and hit them early)
Big Blue: 16-0-0-3
BB Evo: 23-0-0-0

That's about it

k thnks, bye

Xx{Midday}xX · 07-2-2008, 11:37 PM

Scythe is too slow to drain noticable stamina imo. 2 0 0 1. It's just a matter of being able to repeat the same thing several times in a row.

BB Evo is most definitely more tiring in the long run. Lawn Wake IV is more variable than Scythe, which makes it harder to PA. Scythe has jumping jacks that don't last long enough to make me screw up pace/PA like AIM does.

No need to list best scores here. There's a brag thread elsewhere. Don't see why you posted Big Blue either.

**Breakdown16** · 07-3-2008, 02:18 PM

I'm surprised at the number of mistakes I found. Many songs' genres are incorrect. Hero's Theme, which is in D2, has no genre at all. Many songs' BPMs still need to be added. Here's a quick sweep-through; I might look for more later if I feel like it.

65 (C) AAA (1038 Notes / BPM 160)
65 (R) the Brain of the Moon (2135 Notes / BPM ???)
73 (A) Pwntendo (1144 Notes / BPM 196)
72 () Hero's Theme (w.i.p.) (1102 Notes / BPM 140)
67 (M) Toph's OP (750 Notes / BPM 150)
64 (R) Matador (1028 Notes / BPM 175)
59 (D2) Go! (1164 Notes / BPM 155)
55 (M) Electro Rush X8 (787 Notes / BPM 130)
55 (D2) Take Me Back (738 Notes / BPM 175)
52 (D2) Say It Right (Sanxion7 Remix) (838 Notes / BPM )
51 (D2) ROAR (Rage Mix) (686 Notes / BPM )
48 (D2) X-Dreamer Final Cut (608 Notes / BPM 135)
42 (A) Mario Eurobeat (375 Notes / BPM )
40 (D) Indigo (591 Notes / BPM )
41 (D) Midnight Of The North (647 Notes / BPM )

**ninjaKIWI** · 07-4-2008, 12:05 AM

GoSW is VC IMO, Setsujou is low FMO, LW IV is a ton harder than Setsujou.

The only stamina draining songs in the game are Death Piano, vROFL, and Pants kbye.

EDIT: Oh, and the initial reason I came here, I think 300 should be VC.

blazelust · 07-4-2008, 12:24 AM

From what I've read, GoSW is defined as "the line between VC/FMO," so I think it's staying in FMO. Personally, though, I find Vertex Beta to be a lot more challenging than GoSW.

**Plan_Bsk81127** · 07-4-2008, 12:33 AM

ya, when 300 goes on here, definatly VC no doubt.

**EAGAMES** · 07-4-2008, 12:36 AM

GoSW is a FMO because of the patterns.

Setsujou is not a low FMO at all. The hands/hand jack at the beginning followed by a mini jack, the complex 16th runningmen with some 24ths and a hand or two thrown in. Not to mention the 32nd jack at the end that is sometimes tricky to PA. The only hard part in LW IV is the patterns before the 32nd burst and the 32nds themselves. The rest is about constant speed and PA.

300 (spartans) xD is a VC.

Vertex Beta is a VC because it's so index friendly.

**Breakdown16** · 07-4-2008, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EAGAMES

GoSW is a FMO because of the patterns.

Setsujou is not a low FMO at all. The hands/hand jack at the beginning followed by a mini jack, the complex 16th runningmen with some 24ths and a hand or two thrown in. Not to mention the 32nd jack at the end that is sometimes tricky to PA. The only hard part in LW IV is the patterns before the 32nd burst and the 32nds themselves. The rest is about constant speed and PA.

300 (spartans) xD is a VC.

Vertex Beta is a VC because it's so index friendly.

Agreed on everything except possibly VB. Is it really that easy for most people?

**foilman8805** · 07-4-2008, 09:26 PM

Is there any particular reason that 4F73R M3 is in Arcade? It's Downtempo Rave music...jimerax, don't you think it belongs in Dance?

**bmah** · 07-4-2008, 09:44 PM

Remix of B4U from DDR implies that the song belongs in the arcade section, despite FFR being very similar to DDR.

**jimerax** · 07-4-2008, 10:04 PM

B4U -> Be for You -> Before You => After Me -> 4F73R M3

xplayfan · 07-4-2008, 10:05 PM

If songs like AAA, Starmine, and Xeno-Flow are in Arcade, shouldn't Paranoia Darkness Mix be in Arcade as well?

07-1-2008, 09:14 PM	#1261
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 it's 208, actually. __________________ RIP

07-2-2008, 09:05 PM	#1263
Angel of Solitude Banned Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 My' opinion and questions 1. Novo Mundo, although is easy for a FMO, the rolls make it easiest FMO in the game, but I wouldn't change to VC just yet 2. GoSW SHOULD be VC, I could AAA if I whore it, I've AAA'd it before legit, and I can always do it again, but I am lazy now 3. Pwntendo is way overated, extremely easy VC, I've AAA'd almost every time I play it 4. What would Scythe of 13'z be rated? High, mid, or low FMO? I'd got with mid -high, don't know, harder for me to PA than Big Blue (Big Blue: 16-0-0-3, Scythe 13: 31-0-0-1) 5. Pure in Asia would be rated what? It tookz me a while to AAA that shiz because of 16th jumpstream with 32nd/24th burstz thrown in Sorry, I've used Z's at the end of words since 2nd grade, sorta a habit by now Last edited by Angel of Solitude; 07-2-2008 at 09:24 PM..

07-2-2008, 09:17 PM	#1264
lxDestinyxl FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,247	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Please don't talk like that. You may result in bad reputations and less respect for your inputs in discussions through the forums. Have a read through the rules and stickies. I have linked a couple here: Read everything Also read this Very important to read this __________________

07-2-2008, 10:27 PM	#1265
hi19hi19 lol happy Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: DESTINY Age: 33 Posts: 12,193	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 What's so hard about Setsujou! Hyakka Ryouran that puts it above stuff like Lawn Wake IV? I mean, there's the jack at the end and a few jacks scattered in between, and it's a VC otherwise. Way easier to PA than LWIV and the 24ths in Setsujou are a heck of a lot simpler than the crazy burst stuff in, say, Rottel. Explain plz __________________

07-2-2008, 10:59 PM	#1266
Angel of Solitude Banned Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 I'll explain, because you're wayyyy off hi19, I'm new, either you aren't good at the game, or you are just better at jumpstream, but either way, here's why: I got Oni from AAA'ing Lawn Wake IV, it's just 217 BPM 16th stream, which sounds bad, but the patterns are basic, nothing to confusing, the only hard part to PA is the 32nd roll resulting in a 3 note 32nd roll ending in a 16th (making it confusing), Lawn Wake patterns are mainly rolls/trills But Setsoujo Hyakka Ryouran, on top of the horrible jacks, the patterns are rather complecated, put a lot of stress on your right hands, some annoying patterns include: Runningmen One handed 16th triplets with breaks, repeating, then leading into alternating one handed 8th jumps annoying jumpstreams with hard patterns with all these and a song longer than Lawn Wake, at 180 BPM, you've got yourself a good mid FMO song

07-2-2008, 11:09 PM	#1267
hi19hi19 lol happy Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: DESTINY Age: 33 Posts: 12,193	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 I'm decent enough to get 20 goods on Setsujou... I guess the patterns and right hand bias in Setsujou don't bother me. I got 20something goods sightread on Setsujou but I've had to whore a bit just to get LWIV goods down to the 50s. Oh well. I've always been different in my file preference. __________________

07-2-2008, 11:18 PM	#1268
Xx{Midday}xX FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: My own world. Miserable. Disgusting. Appalling. Pessimistic. Horrific. Terrible. Posts: 3,518	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Scythe of 13 is not an FMO imo. It's a sort of easy version of AIM. The only hard part would be the (I have no clue why they're there) 16ths in between the jumps. Setsujou Hyakka Ryouran is certainly an FMO, but the only problem I have is the hand jack in the beginning. Length is nothing compared to songs like BB Evolution, and I never found a runningmen pattern as a challenge. JSs are easier than EHHS. I find LWIV hard to PA also. __________________ Any *FFR song title* discrepancies? List them here. Willing to accurately translate Japanese for free *Accumulating all playstyles here!* つまんないシグでスマソ(´・ω・`)

07-2-2008, 11:27 PM	#1269
Angel of Solitude Banned Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 @midday EHHS is MUCH harder than any jumpstream in Setsujou, and runningmen aren't a problem for me either, just for most people, and it is true that length is no much of a matter in that song, just saying it's longer than LW, also, I just noticed stamina wise, to me it's more draining on my hands than BB evo, mainly cause' BB evo is rather simple except for 2 parts that always kill me, the long 8th jump part (which I can easily AAA, it's just hurts my hand), and the long 16th stream that follows (my hands are tired by then and I get an awful lot of goods then) also, my scores on those songs throughout history (includes my 3 years unregistered) LWIV: AAA Setsujou: 6-0-0-0 Scythe: 31-0-0-0 (huge stamina drainer if you ask me, is really easy except the 16th's in the jumping jacks make me screw up a few of the jumps and hit them early) Big Blue: 16-0-0-3 BB Evo: 23-0-0-0 That's about it k thnks, bye Last edited by Angel of Solitude; 07-2-2008 at 11:31 PM..

07-2-2008, 11:37 PM	#1270
Xx{Midday}xX FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: My own world. Miserable. Disgusting. Appalling. Pessimistic. Horrific. Terrible. Posts: 3,518	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Scythe is too slow to drain noticable stamina imo. 2 0 0 1. It's just a matter of being able to repeat the same thing several times in a row. BB Evo is most definitely more tiring in the long run. Lawn Wake IV is more variable than Scythe, which makes it harder to PA. Scythe has jumping jacks that don't last long enough to make me screw up pace/PA like AIM does. No need to list best scores here. There's a brag thread elsewhere. Don't see why you posted Big Blue either. __________________ Any *FFR song title* discrepancies? List them here. Willing to accurately translate Japanese for free *Accumulating all playstyles here!* つまんないシグでスマソ(´・ω・`)

07-3-2008, 02:18 PM	#1271
Breakdown16 FFR Veteran Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,938	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 I'm surprised at the number of mistakes I found. Many songs' genres are incorrect. Hero's Theme, which is in D2, has no genre at all. Many songs' BPMs still need to be added. Here's a quick sweep-through; I might look for more later if I feel like it. 65 (C) AAA (1038 Notes / BPM 160) 65 (R) the Brain of the Moon (2135 Notes / BPM ???) 73 (A) Pwntendo (1144 Notes / BPM 196) 72 () Hero's Theme (w.i.p.) (1102 Notes / BPM 140) 67 (M) Toph's OP (750 Notes / BPM 150) 64 (R) Matador (1028 Notes / BPM 175) 59 (D2) Go! (1164 Notes / BPM 155) 55 (M) Electro Rush X8 (787 Notes / BPM 130) 55 (D2) Take Me Back (738 Notes / BPM 175) 52 (D2) Say It Right (Sanxion7 Remix) (838 Notes / BPM ) 51 (D2) ROAR (Rage Mix) (686 Notes / BPM ) 48 (D2) X-Dreamer Final Cut (608 Notes / BPM 135) 42 (A) Mario Eurobeat (375 Notes / BPM ) 40 (D) Indigo (591 Notes / BPM ) 41 (D) Midnight Of The North (647 Notes / BPM )

07-4-2008, 12:24 AM	#1273
blazelust FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 9	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 From what I've read, GoSW is defined as "the line between VC/FMO," so I think it's staying in FMO. Personally, though, I find Vertex Beta to be a lot more challenging than GoSW. __________________ FFR, wot?

07-4-2008, 12:33 AM	#1274
Plan_Bsk81127 snooches Join Date: Aug 2007 Age: 32 Posts: 6,420	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 ya, when 300 goes on here, definatly VC no doubt.

07-4-2008, 09:26 PM	#1277
foilman8805 smoke wheat hail satin Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: LA baby Age: 35 Posts: 5,704	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Is there any particular reason that 4F73R M3 is in Arcade? It's Downtempo Rave music...jimerax, don't you think it belongs in Dance? Last edited by foilman8805; 07-10-2008 at 10:10 PM..

07-4-2008, 09:44 PM	#1278
bmah shots FIRED Global Moderator, User Support, Judge Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Edmonton, AB Age: 36 Posts: 8,448	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Remix of B4U from DDR implies that the song belongs in the arcade section, despite FFR being very similar to DDR.

07-4-2008, 10:04 PM	#1279
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 B4U -> Be for You -> Before You => After Me -> 4F73R M3

07-4-2008, 10:05 PM	#1280
xplayfan FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: New York Age: 31 Posts: 752	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 If songs like AAA, Starmine, and Xeno-Flow are in Arcade, shouldn't Paranoia Darkness Mix be in Arcade as well?

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