Let the shutdown begin

[reuben_tate]

Originally Posted by Reincarnate

there ARE plenty of solutions to our problems, but our system is broken in many ways

This so much. For every possible solution out there that works within the scope of the current system, such a solution would have to be materialized in Congress as a bill, and since it is likely that nearly all possible solutions come at the expense of "greedy sociopaths with shitloads of money", those greedy sociopaths are going to use the power of their wealth to prevent such a bill from being passed, thus ruining the possible solution.

That probably doesn't cover the scope of the demise of all possible solutions, but for any possible solution one can think of at the moment, there are probably a million reasons why it either wouldn't ever materialize or why it actually wouldn't work.

[Litodude]

Originally Posted by Reincarnate

not sure how such a graph would be useful (and I don't even know how you'd make such a thing off the top of my head), since there are so many moving parts involved and they all have different timespans / implications. do you blame the people who suggested reasoned conclusions to certain problems, the people who created various tools irresponsibly, the people who abused those tools, or the guys who tried to clean up the resulting mess and made mistakes along the way?

the financial crisis is more of a systemic problem that doesn't translate well to looking at who controlled congress at a given point in time. It was caused by a mass combination of different pieces of legislation, home buyers, real estate agents / mortgage brokers, Wall Street, regulatory practices, sub-prime dealings, securitization, derivatives, market sentiment, the Federal Reserve, congress, interest rate pressures, etc. lots of blame to go around, and in this case it's not a false equivalence to say that both sides are at fault. everyone's at fault for the crisis in various ways.

the blame game is not particularly useful unless it's a clear-cut case of someone causing directly-attributable damage that people should be aware of so that they can work to vote such individuals out of office.

it was a reply to adlp

[DefTeaMachine]

Originally Posted by Snowcrafta

The GOP, on the dawn of October 1st, immediately retreat into their ostentatious spaceships and plot a course to Reptilius 7, their homeworld. Having secured all the resources on Earth and converted the military into a lizard army, they have greenlit the colonization efforts for the hive fleet. As the earth monkeys fight for food and shelter, the glorious lizard men shall descend from the heavens and claim another world as their own. Hail R'agluash.

Someone listens to Alex Jones

[reuben_tate]

[Choofers]

fixed it

[James May]

Originally Posted by Choofers

fixed it

Choof 2016

also: let's fire all of congress and replace them with kindergarten students since apparently no one can agree upon anything because of a bill that would most likely fail \o/

[25thhour]

This is why america is beneath us Canadians.

[Snowcrafta]

Only geographically

[Choofers]

Originally Posted by 25thhour

This is why america is beneath us Canadians.

nice one man !!

[Choofers]

Originally Posted by Reincarnate

predictions on when shutdown will end go

before Saturday

if not, then after the government defaults

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by 25thhour

This is why america is beneath us Canadians.

Tell me more about how you're 18 and independent and will move out any day now

[mi40]

25thyearatmoms

[ddr_f4n]

Originally Posted by Snowcrafta

Only geographically

We're the best hat around.

[Choofers]

oh so found out some interesting news today

even though this program is funded by the VA and DARPA, my advances are not, since they're effectively travel vouchers with a little extra tagged on

looks like I'm getting kicked out of my hotel before the weekend \o/

[mi40]

rest in peace

boofers..

[Pseudo Enigma]

Originally Posted by 25thhour

This is why america is beneath us Canadians.

and this is why Canadians sound like arrogant snobs to Americans. We're not any better than them you know, and we're next in line if shit happens to them. Gotta respect.

[Choofers]

fucking boggles my mind

[Choofers]

this is like two groups of elementary school kids fighting over a few cups of chocolate pudding

except if neither group gets the pudding millions of people are affected

gee to the muthafuckin gee

[Pseudo Enigma]

Originally Posted by Choofers

this is like two groups of elementary school kids fighting over a few cups of chocolate pudding

except if neither group gets the pudding millions of people are affected

gee to the muthafuckin gee

so deep

[gold stinger]

Originally Posted by mi40

rest in peace

boofers..

RIP Choofers
2008-2013
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