TWG CXVIII: But Who Are Ur Friends, Really???

[DaBackpack]

No I meant the argument in thread about whether masons should come out on day 1

[DaBackpack]

The possibility I was referencing was
YMIA meant to come out as a mason, realized that it was a shitty idea because of the argument, and when asked again, took advantage of the confusion and denied it to preserve himself as a mason. And Gradiant, a fellow mason, told the truth.

[DaBackpack]

actually I'm kind of surprised yoshl is the only one questioning this, isn't this a rather egregious contradiction?

[YoshL]

fuc

[YoshL]

maybe i'm just kinda slow lol

[DaBackpack]

if you're slow i'm slower, what is it?

[iluswirl]

Ok after being out all day, I can come back and try to give some clarity

First off, I'm on mobile until Monday, so posting is kind of a pain. I don't consider this an excuse, but I'm going to go for brevity over clarity until it causes a problem.

Second, I've been viewing the thread catching up intermittently, but I rarely post heavily early game because I don't want to lead a bandwagon to a poor decision, especially after last game where we lynched 2 blues straight off. Sorry if that's not what you like, I enjoy watching from the sideline for a bit. I guess now I come into play, but I'm only doing this to hopefully clear the air.

So I'm being called out for a low effort post because it had already been said on a way. I tagged that on mostly because I wanted to point out how we have had blues not claim in the past for whatever reason. On the millers not coming out yet, why the hell should they? Better to let the wolves guess blindly than give them the victims on a silver platter?

Anyway, I don't really have much to go off, but gut read says yoshl is trying too damn hard to cling into so little.

[Vendetta21]

What do you perceive that YoshL is clinging to?

[iluswirl]

I guess my "poor" attempt at a post earlier. I do understand where he's coming from but still, the vast majority of my post earlier was in jest, and the part about the masons is obvious, so the fact that I said it should really be neither here nor there.

[YoshL]

so what i'm seeing is instead of giving your two cents on why you posted what you posted, you opt to immediately decide to try and counterattack.

sensibleness would have been - explain your reasoning behind your post (which i still kinda don't believe), then wait for my response. clinging to analysis would be much more defined if there was actual substance to a retaliatory explanation lol.

if you had read the thread, the miller thing has been gone over like 50 times, and the reasoning we're pointing that out is because you're just restating everything that had already been said. that's what i mean by no effort. not even "i agree with what's been said before", but more of trying to pose it as your own idea; if it was supposed to be commentary on the current situation of things, you were far behind on where the actual thread discussion was.

also, stop being afraid of mistakes, because that's how you learn things #wisewords

[iluswirl]

Barely a counterattack, I just have no opinion on the xiz/manti thing and since you had chosen to dig into me for being a bit redundant, I chose to countervote. I said it's a gut read, and I stick to that. If I do get lynched I hope when the flip comes up that the information doesn't lead to a loss.

I'm not admitting defeat, though. Why would I not defend myself? I have no choice, no matter the role I have. It is always in the interest of the player to keep themselves alive, is it not?

I posted what I did after reading what xiz had posted. I thought ymia had been coming out as well (misunderstanding lol), so I was frustrated that two of our millers had come out already. Under those circumstances, I don't think that my post was trying to blend in.

[DaBackpack]

I totally understand the mobile thing, I don't think anybody would rationally hold that against you. (Now that we know.)

Even ignoring your seemingly retaliatory vote, I don't agree that you should place a serious vote somebody for having strong convictions in this game (if you're human). You can place votes to elicit responses. Doesn't look like that was your intention. So then you should place votes someone if you think he's a wolf. Do you really think YoshL is a wolf?

The implication is there, I want you to say it.

[DaBackpack]

Nevermind, read what you said about the gut read

[YoshL]

i think ilu is just butthurt that i started a bandwagon on him

get wrek'd son

[DaBackpack]

that says nothing about his guiltiness and you should know that

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by YoshL

i think ilu is just butthurt that i started a bandwagon on him

get wrek'd son

relevant quote

I think he's suspicious but his reaction could happen regardless of his position

don't get cocky mister

[YoshL]

he's struggling

he's in a position where he is the most likely to die, at least at this point.

i personally see it as a little bit of desperation to pin the blame on /anyone/ else. ilu had the choice of anyone here, and opted to not go for the people with actual suspicion on them, but me - with really crappy analysis. ala, you could maybe say i'm 'clinging' to that little analysis of the shitty post ilu made, but the fact that there's a bunch of other people who agree kinda fucks up that theory

[YoshL]

hey don't be using phrases with penises in them, you'll just end up being very self referential, mr. dickbutt

[DaBackpack]

[YoshL]

yo that's actually obnoxious lol