FFR top 1000 players list 2008-2009

Nubzpwnzer · 08-13-2008, 06:31 PM

Since we didn't have one last year I was wondering if we are gonna have one this year. I mean it shouldn't be a money issue with ffr's growing population and popularity. Just thought I would ask since other people haven't really questioned when it will be coming out.

Crashfan3 · 08-13-2008, 06:31 PM

If they do make one it should be by average rank. And then I need to mash mine up a bit more. (2490, ew.)

HK_KrAz3 · 08-13-2008, 06:33 PM

i agree

who_cares973 · 08-13-2008, 06:35 PM

this question has been asked many times

no its not going to happen

**badman7772** · 08-13-2008, 06:36 PM

No. How many more threads will I see about this. Tass said there will not be another shirt with the top 1000 players on it. It won't happen again. Now someone close this and link him to another thread.

**Xception704** · 08-13-2008, 06:40 PM

Guys chill. Not everyone is as well-informed as some of you.

Just tell him what he needs to know without jumping on his back about it, would you? >_>

And Nubzpwnzer, it kind of is a money issue.

Basically, if you make a top 1000 players shirt, ONLY people on that shirt would want to buy it ... and that extremely limits the crowd of people that would usually buy an FFR shirt. Compare 1.5 million to 1000, and you'll see why it's just not worth it to make a top 1000 FFR shirt. Especially considering last time, I believe it took forever for the shirts to sell out - much longer than anyone thought.

**foilman8805** · 08-13-2008, 06:42 PM

You forget that there are only about 65,000 active members on this site.

1.5 million is an egregious overestimation.

MrRubix · 08-13-2008, 06:44 PM

The target audience is simply too small to yield a worthwhile profit margin.

Nubzpwnzer · 08-13-2008, 07:21 PM

Alright the time I do pay attention to the forums is when I see something worthwhile. Anyways a profit is a profit either ways, but just wondering I should be in the top 1k here soon. I took a break from wow cause I already have my brutal shoulders in WOW and I don't have to go to work till a anime convention in october, so in the mean time maybe about a week or so maybe a little more I'm gonna try to get my overall rank below 1k.

**badman7772** · 08-13-2008, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nubzpwnzer

Anyways a profit is a profit either ways

This is where your wrong. Ok. A profit is in fact a profit, but it's how much the profit is. They'll actually be losing money if they don't sell enough shirts. They pay to make those shirts then they must sell them to make a profit. If they don't sell enough shirts, they'll actually be losing money. It's making a profit for 1 shirt but how many shirts do they make? It's all about the overall profit.

MrRubix · 08-13-2008, 07:42 PM

It's really more a matter of what's called net present value. Basically, if what you get exceeds what you put in and is better than a viable alternative (even after discounting), then it's worth doing. There are many better ways FFR can spend its time to make larger profits than making a shirt for a select group that won't yield all that much profit given the costs (both opportunity cost, money, etc).

Now, if these customers were somehow high-profit, then it's worth selling to niche groups, but in this case, the top 1000 average players are really no different from any other customer on the site.

**virus003** · 08-13-2008, 07:48 PM

i wonder if they are? im not gonna be in it though. D:

Nubzpwnzer · 08-13-2008, 07:54 PM

Lol Check the comment on rubix profile it's so funny.

dooty_7 · 08-13-2008, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crashfan3

If they do make one it should be by average rank. And then I need to mash mine up a bit more. (2490, ew.)

Actually Crashfan3, if they were to do it with average rank (which they won't :P) you would be on it at rank752

751 kevthunder 2,490.1131
752 Crashfan3 2,490.2521
753 T)r6g0n 2,496.1295

**foilman8805** · 08-13-2008, 08:01 PM

The chances of an average rank shirt being put into production are equally as dismal as the overall rank shirt.

Neither will happen.

EDIT: I see Rubix already made the same point. Ninja'd because I didn't read his whole post, etc.

jellygod · 08-13-2008, 08:12 PM

haha i love rubix posts, econ ftw.

Mentch · 08-14-2008, 07:20 AM

FFR has had a t-shirt for each year since 2005 (with the exception of 2006). Don't expect a new shirt for the shop until 2009.

Be nice to get more stickers or a different piece of clothing.

edit: Put in an advertisement in a well known music or games magazine.

**Coolboyrulez0** · 08-14-2008, 08:55 AM

Also not everybody of those 1000 people would buy one. I would easily be in top 100 for Avg. Rank yet I wouldn't buy a shirt because of lack of money. So like rubix said it's not profitable for FFR.

[TeRa] · 08-14-2008, 09:03 AM

Why not make a shirt with size .001 font of every username on FFR when we hit 2 mil users >_>

MrRubix · 08-14-2008, 09:04 AM

About half of those names would be my alts

08-13-2008, 06:31 PM	#1
Nubzpwnzer FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 90	FFR top 1000 players list 2008-2009 Since we didn't have one last year I was wondering if we are gonna have one this year. I mean it shouldn't be a money issue with ffr's growing population and popularity. Just thought I would ask since other people haven't really questioned when it will be coming out.

08-13-2008, 06:31 PM	#2
Crashfan3 FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Jefferson, Ore. Age: 32 Posts: 2,937	Re: FFR top 1000 players list 2008-2009 If they do make one it should be by average rank. And then I need to mash mine up a bit more. (2490, ew.) __________________ Twilight Sparkle's Ponyville Group Free Chiptune Streaming Radio! Thanks justin_ator and megamon88 for making my sig 20% cooler.

08-13-2008, 06:33 PM	#3
HK_KrAz3 FFR Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: O-ToWn Posts: 222	Re: FFR top 1000 players list 2008-2009 i agree

08-13-2008, 06:35 PM	#4
who_cares973 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: :U Age: 35 Posts: 15,407	Re: FFR top 1000 players list 2008-2009 this question has been asked many times no its not going to happen __________________

08-13-2008, 06:36 PM	#5
badman7772 It happens for a reason. Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: North Carolina Age: 34 Posts: 5,622	Re: FFR top 1000 players list 2008-2009 No. How many more threads will I see about this. Tass said there will not be another shirt with the top 1000 players on it. It won't happen again. Now someone close this and link him to another thread. __________________ like, giggity or something?

08-13-2008, 06:40 PM	#6
Xception704 FFR Veteran Join Date: Jul 2006 Age: 32 Posts: 3,984	Re: FFR top 1000 players list 2008-2009 Guys chill. Not everyone is as well-informed as some of you. Just tell him what he needs to know without jumping on his back about it, would you? >_> And Nubzpwnzer, it kind of is a money issue. Basically, if you make a top 1000 players shirt, ONLY people on that shirt would want to buy it ... and that extremely limits the crowd of people that would usually buy an FFR shirt. Compare 1.5 million to 1000, and you'll see why it's just not worth it to make a top 1000 FFR shirt. Especially considering last time, I believe it took forever for the shirts to sell out - much longer than anyone thought.

08-13-2008, 06:42 PM	#7
foilman8805 smoke wheat hail satin Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: LA baby Age: 35 Posts: 5,704	Re: FFR top 1000 players list 2008-2009 You forget that there are only about 65,000 active members on this site. 1.5 million is an egregious overestimation.

08-13-2008, 06:44 PM	#8
MrRubix FFR Player Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: New York City, New York Posts: 8,340	Re: FFR top 1000 players list 2008-2009 The target audience is simply too small to yield a worthwhile profit margin. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0es0Mip1jWY

08-13-2008, 07:21 PM	#9
Nubzpwnzer FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 90	Re: FFR top 1000 players list 2008-2009 Alright the time I do pay attention to the forums is when I see something worthwhile. Anyways a profit is a profit either ways, but just wondering I should be in the top 1k here soon. I took a break from wow cause I already have my brutal shoulders in WOW and I don't have to go to work till a anime convention in october, so in the mean time maybe about a week or so maybe a little more I'm gonna try to get my overall rank below 1k.

08-13-2008, 07:42 PM	#11
MrRubix FFR Player Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: New York City, New York Posts: 8,340	Re: FFR top 1000 players list 2008-2009 It's really more a matter of what's called net present value. Basically, if what you get exceeds what you put in and is better than a viable alternative (even after discounting), then it's worth doing. There are many better ways FFR can spend its time to make larger profits than making a shirt for a select group that won't yield all that much profit given the costs (both opportunity cost, money, etc). Now, if these customers were somehow high-profit, then it's worth selling to niche groups, but in this case, the top 1000 average players are really no different from any other customer on the site. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0es0Mip1jWY

08-13-2008, 07:54 PM	#13
Nubzpwnzer FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 90	Re: FFR top 1000 players list 2008-2009 Lol Check the comment on rubix profile it's so funny.

08-13-2008, 08:01 PM	#15
foilman8805 smoke wheat hail satin Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: LA baby Age: 35 Posts: 5,704	Re: FFR top 1000 players list 2008-2009 The chances of an average rank shirt being put into production are equally as dismal as the overall rank shirt. Neither will happen. EDIT: I see Rubix already made the same point. Ninja'd because I didn't read his whole post, etc. Last edited by foilman8805; 08-13-2008 at 08:06 PM..

08-13-2008, 08:12 PM	#16
jellygod FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Michigan Age: 34 Posts: 1,703	Re: FFR top 1000 players list 2008-2009 haha i love rubix posts, econ ftw. __________________ RETIRED ___________________________ Best AAAs- Monstrous Turtles, Get down Styles- index,spread Tier Points: 148 Rank 8 in regional ranking(Great Lakes) "Never argue with stupid people, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."

08-14-2008, 07:20 AM	#17
Mentch Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Everything's bigger in Texas ;) Age: 35 Posts: 159	Re: FFR top 1000 players list 2008-2009 FFR has had a t-shirt for each year since 2005 (with the exception of 2006). Don't expect a new shirt for the shop until 2009. Be nice to get more stickers or a different piece of clothing. edit: Put in an advertisement in a well known music or games magazine. Last edited by Mentch; 08-14-2008 at 07:23 AM..

08-14-2008, 08:55 AM	#18
Coolboyrulez0 VICES Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Germany Age: 30 Posts: 10,031	Re: FFR top 1000 players list 2008-2009 Also not everybody of those 1000 people would buy one. I would easily be in top 100 for Avg. Rank yet I wouldn't buy a shirt because of lack of money. So like rubix said it's not profitable for FFR.

08-14-2008, 09:03 AM	#19
[TeRa] FFR Player Join Date: May 2007 Age: 33 Posts: 9,922	Re: FFR top 1000 players list 2008-2009 Why not make a shirt with size .001 font of every username on FFR when we hit 2 mil users >_>

08-14-2008, 09:04 AM	#20
MrRubix FFR Player Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: New York City, New York Posts: 8,340	Re: FFR top 1000 players list 2008-2009 About half of those names would be my alts __________________ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0es0Mip1jWY

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