Grammatically Speaking

[Reincarnate]

Originally Posted by DossarLX ODI

I'm talking about explaining it to someone who is starting out and/or doesn't know the clear distinction between something so the person doesn't just go by gut reactions

With "i.e." you're clarifying something. You could substitute the clarification back into the sentence with no meaning lost:

"He decided to fill the jar with guano (i.e. bat droppings)."

You could easily substitute that back in:

"He decided to fill the jar with bat droppings."

And the sentence is pretty much the same in essence.

"Eating pushpins is about as safe as playing with live current (i.e. not that safe at all)." => "Eating pushpins is not that safe at all."


With "e.g," you're just listing a few examples that don't necessarily constitute an exhaustive list. There may be a lot more than you aren't listing but are equally valid.

"I love classical-music FFR charts (e.g. OMW, Revo, and Molto)."

You might argue that these things are examples that "clarify" with something specific, too, like with "i.e.", but it doesn't work:

"I love the OMW, Revo, and Molto FFR charts."

Now you make it sound like you like ONLY those three, whereas the original sentence was much broader in scope.

[remedy1502]

97%, bored of this instead of bored with this
now I know

[_Fluttershy_]

Yerp, 100%! The kind of stuff I need to know considering I'm in uni heh! XD

[devonin]

Originally Posted by PaperclipGames

It isn't mean. I wonder how many abbreviations in English exist that people use, but of which they have no clue what they mean.

i.e. = id est = that is ~ "by that I mean"
e.g. = examplum gratia = given the example ~ "for example"
AM = ante meridiem = before mid-day
PM = post meridiem = after mid-day

And so on. If you know what i.e. and e.g. literally mean, it should be obvious which of the two to use.

Part of the reason I first became a member of the FFR forum moderation staff was my correct use of viz. in a post in CT

[Pseudo Enigma]

Woah, I've never seen that one before in my life. (then again I don't read very often)

Thanks Dev, I learned something new.

[PaperclipGames]

Didn't think I would learn anything new here in this thread.
vocab++;

[GuidoHunter]

Originally Posted by devonin

Part of the reason I first became a member of the FFR forum moderation staff was my correct use of viz. in a post in CT

I still haven't forgotten that.

--Guido

[devonin]

Originally Posted by GuidoHunter

I still haven't forgotten that.

--Guido

ilu2 bby

[dore]

haha the bored one is dumb, that's not grammar just an archaic rule of preposition usage which doesn't make a lick of difference. it doesn't even have a real explanation after it other than "yeah that one's wrong lol sorry." the definitions of prepositions are so fluid it hardly matters which one you use half the time; regardless of the definition, you'll still get your point across even if it's blatantly wrong

[Reincarnate]

Originally Posted by dore

haha the bored one is dumb, that's not grammar just an archaic rule of preposition usage which doesn't make a lick of difference. it doesn't even have a real explanation after it other than "yeah that one's wrong lol sorry." the definitions of prepositions are so fluid it hardly matters which one you use half the time; regardless of the definition, you'll still get your point across even if it's blatantly wrong

Pretty much! Check out http://english.stackexchange.com/que...-by-bored-with

[Pseudo Enigma]

Originally Posted by dore

you'll still get your point across even if it's blatantly wrong

the quiz is asking for which is the most correct in the case, not which ones are viable.

[female]

I only got 'Jon and me' wrong

[Mrowmrew]

I'm not exactly sure as to what grammar is.
Can someone elaborate?

[Mrowmrew]

Originally Posted by female

I only got 'Jon and me' wrong

I got that one wrong too.
Ain't no car honkin' at Jon and me anywho.

[Arkuski]

Originally Posted by EzExZeRo7497

^^^^


Rarely used whom, I got that one wrong. 97%

me too

[.Layne.]

97.. got ie and eg wrong

[Kibblre]

94%. I mixed up that and which.

[YoshL]

97%, messed up one of the boreds

[PriestREA]

100%

[reuben_tate]

I think if everyone in the US took it, the average would be a lot lower. I'm pretty sure a majority of the people that take it are grammar nazi's trying to make their e-peen larger.