05-31-2013, 07:43 PM | #6201 |
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Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Batch #1 complete)
@Xiz: whoopsie, was going to reply to your PM, but I guess I can post here instead.
Continuing the jumps like you have in your screenshot would be an option, yes. If you think that takes away from the easy feel you want in your file, we can try to work something out, haha. Just let me know via Skype ^.^;
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It is kind of bull shit I lose an automatic point because of your judging prefrences, and I lose a point for climaxing the ending. They're entirely separate beats in their own right, but concept wise I would ask you would you dock Pandora for the same spike (remember this is in concept), and dock it harder because the spike there is greater? I imagine your answer would likely be no, so I'm confused at why you would dock me for a difficulty spike, especially when the idea of this stream existing is kind of in the back of your head because of the broken jumpstream earlier giving you a foreshadow of it. The only docks from that exact list I can even agree with are the stringency dock and the bpm reduction ignoring the "which really didn't look very good." part of your reasoning. Also, while his notes aren't "garbage" because they're at least insightful, I would sort of like to see a rereview of N's Farewell in place of Dossar's, he's not a bad guy but I don't think his insights warranted the docks given due to being an argument over such subjective ideas. Also Xiz, nice job on smile song. I'm gonna hate it when it gets in game because of how happy it is, but I least hope your chart is way better than the one I was working on forever ago and scrapped. |
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05-31-2013, 10:23 PM | #6203 |
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Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Batch #1 complete)
@Midnight sometimes things should be kept simple based on the slowness and lower difficulty of a chart. Just because the song has color gallops doesn't always mean it should be stepped that way.
In the case of N’s Farwell the jumps replacing the grace notes would work better because it covers the gallops and removes the color notes the player has to read. My judging puts a heavy emphasis on the player and the chart is obviously intended to be of a lower difficulty – the song itself is mellow and does increase in intensity but does not warrant hands. A player at that level of difficulty is better off having a good rhythm to follow than suddenly have to switch to gallops. Someone may as well just submit a piano song where the person playing the piano is doing 3 or more notes at a time and pressing the keys lightly. It is 60 bpm 8th notes, but the piano player is doing 3-4 notes each time. The entire song would be hands and quads if "stepped technically". Does anyone here seriously want to play something like that? Your file doesn’t need to cover the entire 8th stream played by the musician – put an emphasis on the melody and you can remove the hands and let the player immerse him/herself into a nice, calm piece of music with a chart to the prominent piano rather than the background 8th piano that isn’t as dominant.
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05-31-2013, 10:31 PM | #6204 |
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Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Batch #1 complete)
So would I be able to submit a cleaned up/better version of TWFF in the July-Aug. batch, or does the rejection mean I can't do that?
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05-31-2013, 10:36 PM | #6205 | |
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Wait, you were doing a version of this song also?
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05-31-2013, 11:16 PM | #6206 |
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Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Batch #1 complete)
Well first, wait for the final list of accepted files that jimerax will announce soon. That list will also include the top 10 files that were closest to acceptance, but were rejected. Those rejected songs are eligible for resubmissions in the next batch. If your file was not close to that, then you'll just have to submit it again as a regular submission in the next batch.
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05-31-2013, 11:31 PM | #6207 | |
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Yes I was
I was telling people in TB chat I dislike extremely happy music and stepping a song like that would be torture. So I jokingly started making a chart for it. Sadly my computer messed up and I lost the chart. Edit: Jake Ferg. Is the one who recommended it btw. Also Quote:
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05-31-2013, 11:41 PM | #6208 | |
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05-31-2013, 11:54 PM | #6209 | |
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The short hand of everything is that I am arguing based off the content of his notes being completely a subjective manner, his score should be either ignored or replaced because he hasn't identified anything that explains his score within reason. |
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06-1-2013, 12:31 AM | #6210 |
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Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Batch #1 complete)
dont u wish some judges gave more than 15 words as review for a file with more than 1000 notes
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06-1-2013, 12:37 AM | #6211 |
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*free constructive reviews* <--- simfile artists
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06-1-2013, 12:56 AM | #6212 | |
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whenever i get unlazy i'll add holds/mines and release it ~ -- got 3/4 files in, yay! |
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06-1-2013, 02:43 AM | #6213 |
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I hope no posts are deleted
U could always ask for more in depth review post batch ya know
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06-1-2013, 03:05 AM | #6214 |
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o rly i dint know dat thankeu
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06-1-2013, 04:18 AM | #6215 |
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ok, time to see how bad my files were
looks like Doss missed unshakeable. only got 3 reviews. just cuz it comes up a lot, is PR pitch relevance?
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06-1-2013, 07:59 AM | #6216 |
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Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Batch #1 complete)
PR is public relations. It means how well the notes relate to the people playing the file
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06-1-2013, 08:00 AM | #6217 |
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Example: hey this file has good PR nice or man this file is terrible really bad PR here.
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06-1-2013, 08:19 AM | #6218 | |
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I'm sorry that you don't agree with my notes, but it's not like I bombed you -- I even told you what each of the deductions were to prove that I at least had reasoning of it. Honestly, in most other situations, I would have taken off two points for what you did at the ending, because you had an unnecessary color change, and you technically broke the sync too. There's a number of things I could have kept taking off for, like an extreme repetition in jump patterning when you could have accented something different (like using straight jumps but using PR to accent Miku), or how you had a ton of missed percussion sounds in the section afterward, but I didn't do that. Last edited by TC_Halogen; 06-1-2013 at 08:38 AM.. |
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06-1-2013, 09:32 AM | #6219 |
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Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Batch #1 complete)
Better ask for a re-judgment
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06-1-2013, 10:12 AM | #6220 |
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I'm pretty sure 7.5/7.5/8/1 is grounds for a rejudge, and I'm sure that 7.5/7.5/8/4 is grounds for a rejudge considering both files have proper sync and consistent structure.
I'm also pretty certain that a re-judge wouldn't be necessary for Middie considering I gave him reasoning behind each deduction, instead of you know, just being like "lol you're terrible [1/10]". EDIT: I would like to add that with a 6/6/8/7.5, there's only two points of variance between the highest and lowest judge, and two different judges gave him the same score, so yeah. Any combination of three scores would have a variance of at least 1.5, so it's not like Middie's scores are ridiculously inconsistent. Last edited by TC_Halogen; 06-1-2013 at 10:16 AM.. |
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