ultimate stepmania vs korea drama thread

[Mahou]

Originally Posted by TC_Halogen

i think others should take this attitude and just ditch the drama cold now

+1

Life it too short to be wasting your time to be angry or hate someone (even though it is easy to get caught up in the moment at times).

[YoshL]

ffr official incoming

why drama about this when we can drama about placements and sandbagging

the #1 most traditional FFR tradition

[Leo137]

woow this shit is massive

[Charu]

I'll sandbag to D1

[Xayphon]

yeah man I'm releasing a pack soon get hyped about that instead of giving this thread 10k views in a single day ))))))

[Mahou]

Originally Posted by YoshL

ffr official incoming

why drama about this when we can drama about placements and sandbagging

the #1 most traditional FFR tradition

I feel like the next FFR official will be pretty interesting since a lot of the community started playing SM (so neat!). I don't really plan on playing, but I'd like to help out in any way that I can.

[-Tim-]

Originally Posted by Xayphon

yeah man I'm releasing a pack soon get hyped about that instead of giving this thread 10k views in a single day ))))))

this tbh family

[icontrolyourworld]

Originally Posted by xayphon

yeah man i'm releasing a pack soon get hyped about that instead of giving this thread 10k views in a single day ))))))

+99999999999

[SayoYasuda]

Drama queens

You're worse than buizel6969

[Cerise79]

Uhh just gonna post my thoughts as a BMS player point of view.

I don't think 0133 cheats on SM. 0133 played for a long time and personally I don't find it odd for him to play at this kind of level in both BMS and Stepmania and all the other rhythm games he has been playing recently. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucFNH9Z07Xk this was 6 years ago and I don't have any doubt that he can hard clear this in 2015 (which he did here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hte_Ckphcc). I have been watching his stream often last year when he was still playing BMS and whenever he got a request, he played it right away... and those scores would generally be 1st place in couple of tries on internet rankings out of like thousands of people. He also had a SHIT ton of BMS videos with handcam on his youtube (most notably that overjoy 1/ SP21 plastic mind IR 1st place) and I watched every single one of them and none of the videos seemed sketchy to me nor any top BMS players thought they were sketchy. (It's unfortunate that he took down all of those videos.) He posted a lot of his BMS videos on this Korean site called toez2dj and lot of top BMS players watched them but none of them thought any of the vids were sketchy. Of course for me, I am not at his level by any means but I am good enough to tell what's fake or not from a hand video with keytaps. I think he is just a type of guy who plays a LOT in order to achieve scores he is satisfied with. Some of the notable scores from him like Overjoy 7 Gengaozo FUC HARD CLEAR and SP21 witchcraft MAX score took around 100~150 tries (in the time frame of 1 day). He probably plays a lot off-stream and his live play scores are probably only a fraction of how much he plays.

But then again, if experienced SM players say he is cheating, I can't/won't argue back because I don't know anything about SM. I just find it hard to believe he cheats on SM because that would make a huge chunk of his top BMS scores sketchy. 99% of the BMS community already believes 0133's scores are legit. One point, BMS had a terrible history with a hacker by the name of pazo back in 2011. We don't want to go through that bullshit again. I respect 0133's skills (and only skills) a lot and just hope that he never once cheated in his rhythm game career.




As with his personality..... well I won't comment on that.

간단하게 한국말로 번역하자면

0133님은 부정이 아니라고 믿습니다. 리듬게임도 하신지 아주 오래된거같고 옛날 영상찍은거 보면 정말 2015년에도 이런 옵저7 하드클, 맥스 성과들이 부정같진 않네요. 작년에 테오이에 성과들도 많이올리시면서 영상도 올리고했는데 아무도 부정이라고 하지 않았던거같군요. 저도 개인적으로 다 시청했는데 부정같진 았았습니다. 스매도 부정아니길 바랍니다.

[jhlee0133]

And I'm very sorry about that insult other player.
At that situation, I was very angry.. because of without justifiable reason, was regarded as cheating. (by bunch of people)

that's why I'm insulted stepmania player.
but I was... too immature.

I'm sorry to everyone.

[ca25nada]

dat repost...

Also for LR2's easy judge (which is what lost dedicated falls under), pgreats has a similar timing to SM's marv (21ms vs 22.5ms) and a even wider timing for regular greats compared to perfects. (60ms vs 45ms)

[Mahou]

Originally Posted by jhlee0133

And I'm very sorry about that insult other people.
At that situation, I was very angry.. because of without justifiable reason, was regarded as cheating.

That's why I'm insulted player.
but I was too immature.

I'm sorry to everyone.

Ay, this is what I like to see. It takes a good person to admit that he's done something wrong. Very nice Jhlee!

[icontrolyourworld]

Originally Posted by jhlee0133

And I'm very sorry about that insult other people.
At that situation, I was very angry.. because of without justifiable reason, was regarded as cheating.

That's why I'm insulted player.
but I was too immature.

I'm sorry to everyone.

This right here, we can all just apologize to each other and live on. I hope everything can be brushed under the carpet. Thank you

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by jhlee0133

And I'm very sorry about that insult other player.
At that situation, I was very angry.. because of without justifiable reason, was regarded as cheating. (by bunch of people)

that's why I'm insulted all 4k player.
but I was also immature.

I'm sorry to everyone.

+1 can we get more of this

[psychoangel691]

Originally Posted by jhlee0133

And I'm very sorry about that insult other people.
At that situation, I was very angry.. because of without justifiable reason, was regarded as cheating.

That's why I'm insulted player.
but I was too immature.

I'm sorry to everyone.

Every high level player I've ever known has been accused of cheating at some point or another. It's not uncommon for someone to question your skill when you reach these levels. Most people just prove they're legitimate and move on, not attack other players.

The things that have been going on towards Stian is ridiculous, I mean being hacked and having his name changed on osu! to jhlee, the ask questions he gets, the people who go on his stream and cause problems, the list goes on and on. Being angry at someone doesn't justify those actions. I think the two of you need to talk to one another so all this can just stop.

[xThai]

lol

[Xayphon]

slurprprprprpr ~

[jhlee0133]

Originally Posted by Cerise79

Uhh just gonna post my thoughts as a BMS player point of view.

I don't think 0133 cheats on SM. 0133 played for a long time and personally I don't find it odd for him to play at this kind of level in both BMS and Stepmania and all the other rhythm games he has been playing recently. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucFNH9Z07Xk this was 6 years ago and I don't have any doubt that he can hard clear this in 2015 (which he did here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hte_Ckphcc)

thanks for comment. but seems to be a bit misunderstanding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucFNH9Z07Xk
this is not my play. (I think it looks like ...fake. the flame is discharge at 2x speed.)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOH5VrFK0Io
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2RjF-wkzzE
which one is actual my play from 6 years ago (At that time this was a WR)

[Cerise79]

Thank you for the reply. I thought you were hidamari_a but I guess you weren't. I saw those plastic mind and little hearts videos already and if you got those scores 6 years ago, I can believe your recent scores. Also if you need korean - english translation to avoid misunderstandings, please let me know via PM. I can assist you.