TWG CXXXIX (139) - Postgame

[_Zenith_]

we lynched plop for a few reasons

1) he's a handsome devil and was just too debonair for us to resist

2) apparently in the first phase I had enough grip on players that they sheeped my vote onto plopadop; whom I just thought he was the only player who didn't really fit and immediately assumed vanilla town over jester and went for it

3) everyone who is anguished over lynching plop D0 should stop because imo it was the funniest and best lynch at that time. If anyone is upset or mad about the plopadop lynch D0, please check yoself

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by storn42

ikr couldn't have made a better shot if i tried. next time dont tell me to shoot :P literally why i shot you, and if it makes you feel better, it did keep me up at night.

I don't see what's wrong with telling you to shoot and I can't see how it would come off as trying to get you to waste your shot/threaten you. I thought you had a high chance of being converted or killed so I wanted you to get your shot off in case this was your only chance.

[j-rodd123]

hul

[j-rodd123]

thanks for hosting yoshl

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by storn42

ikr couldn't have made a better shot if i tried. next time dont tell me to shoot :P literally why i shot you, and if it makes you feel better, it did keep me up at night.

there's a multitude of bad reasoning here, but technically you're still learning roles since I've practically only seen you behind the wheel as a Vanilla Wolf or Town

if you weren't townreading AA due to him jumping the gun early on the game mechanics and roles/rolehunting I could see you shooting him for that, but for telling you to take the shot because your ability was one-shot only shouldn't attribute or warrant a kill lmao

YoshL is a great host, but I nearly broke a rule in the game and he let me know what was up and was cool about it so thank you thank you good sir; how many games do you have sent so far because if you need one more I'll send one in

[_Zenith_]

Also I outed because it'll drive me insane trying to keep my role away from town when I could easily do what I did and out and drive town into a victory; there was no expecting the rest of the players to massclaim alongside me like Freaky and Lurker didn't have to claim (Lurker should've at a later phase though) and Nawk did not have to out whatsoever and I felt Nawk played like a dick this game because he was set determined on whatever wincon he could do and it felt really out of place and not for fun.

I really have to try to keep emotions out of game because like YoshL said in an earlier post, I am heavily conceited and my ego gets in the way of the statements I am trying to present.

[Charu]

Just wanted to say...

I really had fun this game. Thanks everyone for letting me do my shenanigans.

[_Zenith_]

Charu I hope you still play more because that wasn't a bad game for you; you had me convinced that you weren't anti-town aligned

[YoshL]

also a reminder to send me your games

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

Pony Theory™ confirmed

no clue what this means (yet?)
but I can say the two hours I've played of it so far are strangely refreshing due to the complete paradigm shift
also Will is a good character

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by roundbox

no clue what this means (yet?)
but I can say the two hours I've played of it so far are strangely refreshing due to the complete paradigm shift
also Will is a good character

I'll explain once you finish EP7

[YoshL]

i think one mor egame and then host voting can start

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

honestly Serial Killer is a fun role because I can still hunt wolves (which is fun and hard for me to genuinely fake) but I also can be deceptive

thanks for rolling me SK yoshl <3

I got told you were SK during the game and was like

"wat"

I need to take some notes or something, holy shit.

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by XelNya

I got told you were SK during the game and was like

"wat"

I need to take some notes or something, holy shit.

DBP on my end read almost godlike town status until I looked at the mystery and C9++ games recently and remembered it is way too easy as an anti-town alignment to hop onto the totem pole in the middle of town and not get heat.

DBP though had an incredible game regardless of dying

[_Zenith_]

Also YoshL in the OP you have Nighthawk as a Hated Survivor and not a Lyncher

[storn42]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

I don't see what's wrong with telling you to shoot and I can't see how it would come off as trying to get you to waste your shot/threaten you. I thought you had a high chance of being converted or killed so I wanted you to get your shot off in case this was your only chance.

ok so here is my line of thinking... (probably convoluted and hard to follow)

1) i have heat, i need to get rid of it. my role is a 1-shot that i dont need to be alive to have it effect the game. I claim.

2) plan: kill someone in the night so if i get killed or recruited im good (and hopefully kill the CL so i dont get recruited)

3) odds are 5/8 are anti-town so its pretty safe that i'll get a good kill no matter who i pick

4) you say "take the shot"

5) ok, yea, thats sounds like a good idea i was going to do that anyways...

6) wait... by me claiming vigi the woofs (and club) know i'm probably going to use it tonight

7) wait.... if the mafia know that im taking the shot tonight, its one less thing for them to worry about in the late game.

8) wait..... if the mafia know im taking the shot and have a roleblocker, they would just block me.

9) so... if they wanted to seem towny and get me out of the way, they would want me to use my kill tonight.... just like AA did... and AA would only know about a roleblocker if he was the role blocker...

10) Plan: Shoot AA. if he lives, lynch him.

[thesunfan]

the thing is, that logic could be applied to any one player in the game, not AA specifically. Any of them could have been the roleblocker.

[YoshL]

that's basically the problem there.

storn, you assumed that there's a roleblocker, and you didn't look at the situation in another light.

you examined the possibility that AA was a wolf and said to yourself "yeah this is possible" and threw away all the other possibilities.

never once did you think "could a townsperson have said the exact same thing, maybe worrying that storn could be the nightkill target" or anything like that it seems

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by storn42

9) so... if they wanted to seem towny and get me out of the way, they would want me to use my kill tonight.... just like AA did... and AA would only know about a roleblocker if he was the role blocker...

10) Plan: Shoot AA. if he lives, lynch him.

people have already said this but this logic is really bad. Would you have shot me if I had claimed inspector? Because I was thinking about it but even if I had, would you be able to differentiate that from a potential fakeclaim?

[j-rodd123]

let's just all agree rolling 0Ts is rigged for town