jTWG LXXIII: An Excursion to Zimbabwe

[gold stinger]

I have reason to believe tiloco isn't the real tracker, he just fakeclaimed as soon as the next day started so he could get the better ground in his already shitty situation with being heavily suspected, and the only real resort that he would have had to clear his name if he was wolf with one of the highest rated townies against him. This is red lights painted all over it against tiloco.

[tiloco217]

Lol that's the reason you don't believe me? Go ahead and dig your self a deeper hole.

By the way, even when everyone has seen the thread and you guys realize that there isn't going to be a counter claim, we should play through this day because we only have one misslynch left and we still have to find his partner

[Charu]

Originally Posted by gold stinger

I have reason to believe tiloco isn't the real tracker, he just fakeclaimed as soon as the next day started so he could get the better ground in his already shitty situation with being heavily suspected, and the only real resort that he would have had to clear his name if he was wolf with one of the highest rated townies against him. This is red lights painted all over it against tiloco.

But would a wolf do that to another wolf if choof is wolf?

Oh god... oh my god, but no, that work mechanically, there's no way.

Time will tell about Tiloco, but as of this moment I need to believe he's a PR, a wolf wouldn't do that, that's suicide. ffffff

My brain is malfunctioning guys.

GS, you were my top town, buddy, good job if you're honestly a wolf, but then again, this is your first game so I didn't know how to percieve you I suppose.

...

GS, if you could just... make a scenario that maybe I can see, that be nice, but, a wolf coming out as a PR when they don't know for certain if choof is the PR?

I... I... I don't even.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by tiloco217

No I still think that choof is probably a VT. I am not lock clearing him but I am pretty sure he is town

I... I think my meta is clouding my views of choof or something. I just, can you please quote posts where you think this is the case? Because, I am having a mega hard time dealing with this.

[Cold Kitten]

this has been a game full of suicide moves.

i really really do not think that tiloco's one of them. GS your logic really isn't making sense to me.

[tiloco217]

Charu just look at our argument during the night phase again. I explained all of the different reasons why I think he is town there and I don't really feel like digging through all of that

[Cold Kitten]

so, if tiloco was actually a wolf.

this would go one of two ways. it would either guarantee that he wouldn't be lynched (with no counterclaim), OR it would guarantee that he WOULD be (either choof comes back and actually claims tracker, or someone else CC's tiloco's claim.

the latter scenario is FAR more likely to happen and tiloco would know that. I think anyone would know that. Especially given all the random claims that have happened in this game. There would be no reason for the tracker to NOT counter claim if they saw tiloco's claim, at this point. because tiloco would be a guaranteed wolf if the real tracker counterclaimed.

for that reason, i really really believe tiloco. i didn't believe choof's claim to begin with. it was really weird and he literally said it was fake and that he wasn't the tracker, and then he just up and disappeared from the thread. like that's super fucking weird, i'm sorry. i have absolutely no reason to believe that choof is the real tracker. i do, however, have reason to believe that tiloco is.

[Charu]

From the viewpoint of Tiloco, if I was in his shoes, Goldstinger would be the excellent person to target because I called him my top town while I was tunneling Tiloco while he thought I was a wolf which made the wolves probably think Tracker, if there is one, will not try touching GS.

Tiloco, if tracker, had suspicions of GS and as such sent the Track to GS to confirm his suspicion.

...I think that's the rough version of what happened. I can see, I can definitely see it as much as I hate myself right now.

[gold stinger]

I'm thinking this is tiloco playing his DM games again as he has been doing previously this entire game. He's wanted people to pick against him when openly told riot to reveal his PR role, and challenged people to throw what they got against it. He did it again many other times such as the argument with choof & defending CK. He's playing devil's advocate for simply the purpose of driving arguments here, to get people to either slip up, or talk themselves down to shit. (Kind of like what he was doing when Charu & himself were having that argument over choof).

I don't believe there's going to be a cc call either because I stated it before that it could end up being really bad if we lose our true tracker being outed, AGAIN, just like riot was. If the wolf ends up being someone like Zenith or CK, this game would be royally fucked considering it appears town votes like that are permanently locked in.

[tiloco217]

Lol are you actually going to try and fight this GS?

[Charu]

Originally Posted by gold stinger

I don't believe there's going to be a cc call either because I stated it before that it could end up being really bad if we lose our true tracker being outed, AGAIN, just like riot was. If the wolf ends up being someone like Zenith or CK, this game would be royally fucked considering it appears town votes like that are permanently locked in.

Thanks for confirming my absolute disbelief that Tiloco is actually real.

Sorry, you're going to die once everyone has come in and says they're not the tracker.

I'm mad at myself, I really am.

[gold stinger]

Fine. You want a counterclaim?

counterclaiming Tracker

I checked lurker and he targeted riot.

[gold stinger]

have a nice day

[Charu]

[Charu]

By the way, Gold Stinger, if there's one thing you just did that I can appreciate.

You just bumped choof into green territory.

I love you, you fool.

[lurker]

Well, unless choof comes back and says he's the real tracker, I don't see any reason to doubt tiloco. I'm not sure what else there is to say/do besides just picking GS off.

[tiloco217]

We still shouldn't kill him yet. I want all of the time possible because people have to change their opinion on me and, through that, change their opinions on other people and I want to be around to help town through that as long as possible. I don't think that that one night phase is long enough for that

[lurker]

LMAO that counterclaim. If you were the real tracker you wouldn't have reacted that fuckin slowly.

[tiloco217]

oh shit

I was actually role blocked but I am the tracker

Welcome to danceguy 2.0

[tiloco217]

I can't believe that play worked a second time