TWG CLIV: An Old School Slumber Party - GAME THREAD

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Xiz

yoshl is good at making stuff up on the fly.

Is that a fact, hmm...

[YoshL]

sunfan can corroborate that in that game i pretty much sat back and laughed after he said "if yoshl's a wolf we're all screwed"

great job doing multiple things that i literally told you not to do. you're tunneling in the first day and you're looking pretty stupid doing so as well lol

2 different situations, 2 different reactions. In one game, I had pretty much all the information I needed, and felt like i was in a comfortable place, so I was able to laugh at the suggestion of me being a wolf.

In this game however, I have you, Xiz coming up and being like "I like that reaction so much that i'm going to lock clear you as town 100% no questions asked". Not responding to that is me asking the question, "why?"

literally you've gone from "Yoshl lock clear." to "Yoshl 99% wolf", both because of one action, good shit

I'm going to have to put you on a short leash xiz

#teambdsm

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Xiz

yoshl is good at making stuff up on the fly.

Quoting again to ask:

Where's your experience?

[Charu]

Oh wait, LiveTWG probs

[Charu]

Oh wait, you actually played OOT where we did voice shit a year or so ago now that I recall, but was YoshL good at coming up with things on the fly then while speaking?

[Charu]

That doesn't really answer my deep desires though... because I certainly don't remember if he was good at lying the second he was accused of something.

Sure, he's good at it with forum posts because, lol, that's easy. But lying through voice without hesitation is like... well... it's not something someone can do naturally unless they're true master of being a sociopath.

I don't think anyone here (except maybe thesunfan I guess since DM for a year or so now) can accomplish that.

[Charu]

Who knows though?

O N L Y T I M E W I L L T E L L

[Xiz]

what makes you think i actually had you as lock clear town, i could have been lying to get you to lower your guard

[Xiz]

Originally Posted by Charu

Quoting again to ask:

Where's your experience?

oh i missed it

livetwg

[Charu]

If others will say he's good at doing exactly that, then we'll see where this goes I suppose then.

Because from my point of view. It just looks like you're either paranoid or randomly throwing feces around since there is really no feces being thrown this game.

Either way, it's something to talk about for the coming hours and probably phases, hee hee heeeeeee

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by YoshL

sunfan can corroborate that in that game i pretty much sat back and laughed after he said "if yoshl's a wolf we're all screwed"

corroborated

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by Charu

I don't think anyone here (except maybe thesunfan I guess since DM for a year or so now) can accomplish that.

Its not even about being a sociopath, its pretty easy to do, just always play to your outs.

Even if you don't believe it, even if its completely bullshit, just try and discredit what the other person is saying, and the pieces of the puzzle will either come together or they won't.

Literally just won a game on All-Stars doing that bullshit.

Yoshl can probably do it most of the time but I do believe that he still has some trouble areas, namely, what to do when he's getting hard townread as a wolf (I've also seen him shit on town with a tracker fakeclaim before)

basically, I wasn't there, Xiz's case has credibility and Xiz is probably town. Yoshl might be a wolf, I do have my reservations about a d0 tunnel, but eh.

Yoshl's response in post #182 is really awkward for him, I think, so I guess I'll see how it falls, but its the best lead I have for now.

Yoshl

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by Charu

Because from my point of view. It just looks like you're either paranoid or randomly throwing feces around since there is really no feces being thrown this game.

If anything, this is townie for Xiz

[YoshL]

sunfan, i think you're just giving me more credit than i'm due, since i hardly really play twg anymore lol. Post may sound more awkward than it is mostly because we've had vocal discussions about it (like in voice, vocal), and it ended up in xiz literally refusing to let me talk, so i muted him a bunch of times etc. and he left lol (in a different non-twg discord)

in any case, let's start getting shit out there.

Xiz's "100% town read" stemmed from apparantly my reaction to his initial prodding:

[2:09 PM] Xiz: quick thing
[2:09 PM] Xiz: i think we should wolfkill rb(edited)
[2:09 PM] Xiz: whatcha think
[2:15 PM] Daikyi: nice creativity
[2:15 PM] Daikyi: it's not like everyone and their mom have been like "oh who should we nightkill"
[2:15 PM] Daikyi: "yo who are you killing tonight"
[2:15 PM] Daikyi: seriously you've been playing twg for so long and that's the best you can fucking do
[2:15 PM] Daikyi: fucking leave until you have something that actually matters
[2:15 PM] Daikyi: walao
[2:15 PM] Xiz: sounds good! I'll send the kill
[2:16 PM] Xiz: (not game related) but ty for find yo

which apparantly warranted a 100% town read, regardless of it being "fake" or not. I actually don't really believe that xiz faked it, and that he's more trying to throw out the afterwards "oh it might have been fake and i was just reaction testing" - don't bullshit yourself you're throwing that in as extra fuel lol

Meanwhile, the other 2 to contact me were makilaz and roundbox, both asking the exact same fucking thing lol

[4:13 PM] Kaethela: sup wolf

and

[10:10 PM] roundbox: Hey who are we killing tonight

good shit. (timeline is makilaz, then roundbox both yesterday, then xiz today)

i'm still flip flopping on how i want to read xiz right now. being town read instantly by him is offputting - I said this multiple times out loud, and Charu can confirm - that being townread by Xiz is really strange. At least in recent memory, it's Xiz latching onto sunfan it seems, and wolfreading me no matter what initially.

The instant view switch though makes me think that he's leaning more into the town side, which is why i haven't actually denounced him as wolfy, but rather just kinda stupid for misconstruing what I said. It's not out of the question right now, but working in absolutes this early on makes me very uneasy about xiz right now.

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sunfan, can you elaborate why charu was your top town earlier

[YoshL]

charu pointed this out in voice also but i was working at the time lol

[2:06 PM] Xiz: hey u here?
[2:09 PM] Daikyi: kinda
[2:09 PM] Daikyi: working and stuff but i can talk
[2:09 PM] Xiz: quick thing
[2:09 PM] Xiz: i think we should wolfkill rb(edited)
[2:09 PM] Xiz: whatcha think

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by YoshL

sunfan, can you elaborate why charu was your top town earlier

literally, he's just posting the way he does when he's a townie. He's not willing to take hard stances and he's not posting as if he has an agenda.

it was early and its stronger now after seeing his response to the Xiz v You interactions, so I think the phrase "top town" might not be the best way to describe it.

[YoshL]

top town i think was the wording i used because you said in an earlier post that he was your only town lean, so i assumed because he was your only, he was your top

unless you have more town reads

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by YoshL

sunfan, i think you're just giving me more credit than i'm due, since i hardly really play twg anymore lol.

potentially, but I think I'm voting you because I said that there are some areas of your wolf play that could use some improvement (not many but what Xiz is accusing you of which is balking when you get scumread being one of them), so if anything I'm not giving you very much credit in this particular instance

Originally Posted by YoshL

and it ended up in xiz literally refusing to let me talk, so i muted him a bunch of times etc. and he left lol (in a different non-twg discord)

From what Xiz told me, you kicked him a few times instead of him leaving. Is that what happened or no?

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by YoshL

top town i think was the wording i used because you said in an earlier post that he was your only town lean, so i assumed because he was your only, he was your top

unless you have more town reads

its a bit too early for the phrase top town to be used, at least for me, is what I was saying, especially since I've had virtually no interactions with anyone

[YoshL]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

potentially, but I think I'm voting you because I said that there are some areas of your wolf play that could use some improvement (not many but what Xiz is accusing you of which is balking when you get scumread being one of them), so if anything I'm not giving you very much credit in this particular instance

...you think?

From what Xiz told me, you kicked him a few times instead of him leaving. Is that what happened or no?

i sent him to the afk room for some auto-mutes - if he was kicked, he would have had to rejoin the chat room via. invite link