ODIPack3 submissions (Release when graphics are done)

[intensez]

don't make this into stepdramamaniaz when he's made what most people could agree as two of the best and most replayable stepmania packs ever made

[James May]

Sending in Mudkip (it is released but since my external died I don't have the file with the gfx oops ...)

Other files to be sending (once I'm done with them >_>...)
1. Christmas in Hollis (collab with Bynary Fission)
2. For Metro City (collab with Ferrari)
3. Light Years (Original Mix) (will submit it once I cut it/reduce the mines in it. Will probably add in 3 more charts to it sinced I'm already working on Standard)
4. Concert Paraphrase on "Dearly Beloved" (gonna probably take the longest because on how much I love to sync pianer files huehue, also, I need to do this all over again because my comp died when I was stepping this ;_;...)

[kommisar]

Prospects for this pack:

Hertzdevil - Fimbulwinter Tritide
Chibi-Tech - Moe Moe Kyunstep pt. I
PROTODOME - This is Blueshift

[codcrille]

Will do my very best to step something worthy.

[macgravel]

Originally Posted by kommisar

Prospects for this pack:

Hertzdevil - Fimbulwinter Tritide
Chibi-Tech - Moe Moe Kyunstep pt. I
PROTODOME - This is Blueshift

U 4got 1

[dascookieman]

here are some more reviews

i have only played these a couple of times and i havn't looked at them in the editor yet so this will not be nearly as thorough feedback as i did with the xoon6 files. i felt i had to get judging the xoon6 files out of the way first so i could get going on your submissions!

i was thinking that all the submissions i got within the first day would definitely suck, i mean who can make a really good file in just a day? but im guessing many of you have spent a lot of time on these earlier because some of them are really good

A Q Children - hard alright lol. its either fast 8th jumps with the occasional 16ths or color note rolls to bursts. it completly lacks variety and i dont see that much hope for this song

chipscape - also lacks variety, so much the same beats and so much copy paste. but at least this one has potential. be more creative and try to have more variety and try again, take your time with this file, the pack will be running for long.

contact - awesome. really fun file. all of it is really fun and the end is so amazing, the style of the file changes completly twice in the last minute lol i love it, so good. the only thing about this file is that it has that long silent part three times in it. cutting the second one should be easy, i can do this for you if youd like. contact me about it and i'll look it through in the editor as soon as possible

ill forget you - its really good. the part with the minijacks to the lead melody is mega-awesome. but i think the rest of the minijacks should be made differently because i even doubt they are consecutive notes, but that's not my main issue with it, the problem is that it makes the calmer parts of the song that doesn't have that awesome minijack-lead-melody look the same as the part that does. i think we can look at some of minor things in this one as well. go through it yourself and then resubmit it to me and i'll look at it in the editor and we'll finalize it

reefer man - hahaha awesome, but i think there's a lot of room for improvement on this one. its a bit offsync and i think the piano could be stepped more in many parts to make it more fun. take some time to look it through, then resubmit to me and i will look it through in the editor

rome is where the art is - it has good and fun parts, but mostly it's too simple and easy while being a long song. the not so interesting parts repeat a lot too. also has a ton of technical errors. it would be a better file if the song was cut but i dont really see any light at the end of the tunnel for this file since it doesn't have a really climactic part

tzuicha-cha - FANTASTIC. i will look at it in the editor some time this weekend. this file will surely be accepted

[kommisar]

Originally Posted by macgravel

U 4got 1

dats a secret fiel

[macgravel]

Originally Posted by kommisar

dats a secret fiel

O my opz:

[YoshL]

Originally Posted by dascookieman

contact - awesome. really fun file. all of it is really fun and the end is so amazing, the style of the file changes completly twice in the last minute lol i love it, so good. the only thing about this file is that it has that long silent part three times in it. cutting the second one should be easy, i can do this for you if youd like. contact me about it and i'll look it through in the editor as soon as possible

kkkkchkkhhekkhrhkghk omfg

and yeah, cutting would be fine

[hi19hi19]

lol AQ Children

8 measure long 270ish bpm 32nd walls, at least that's how I'd have stepped it heh


p.s. its a really repetitive song why are you trying to submit such a thing to super-technicalmanias pack, submit to FFR instead

[Choofers]

dunno why people are complaining about having files rejected

this isn't a FFR Season Pack, ladies and gentlemen. you have to think about your files, play them multiple times, iron out awkward parts, make it overall fun.

think about it this way. how many files are still played from odipacks 1 and 2, and how many files are still played from, say, ffr summer '11 and '12?

[hi19hi19]

yo seriously anyone interested in a collab

I have the file like 60% done but it's bad and I suck at stepping this kind of song but it's a really good song but I haven't stepped anything in a long time and im bad now and skfj

halp

looking for someone who can help me make this into a good polyrhythm patashu midnight dragon overlayered climax theory but not dump hard file
the song is begging for it but i am terrible at this kind of stepping

[Choofers]

send 2 meeee

[swordmasterz]

Originally Posted by Choofers

think about it this way. how many files are still played from odipacks 1 and 2, and how many files are still played from, say, ffr summer '11 and '12?

That's kinda less about the quality of files and more about the release times though <_>

If FFR summer '11 and '12 had been released at the same time as ODI1/2 I'm sure they would have had at least similar playcounts

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Question, but are you planning on forcing incorporation of easier charts? It's been a recent initiative to cater to newbie/less-skilled players.

Also are you gonna judge the whole pack by yourself?

[Roar176]

I agree with ginuwine

[Dynam0]

Just some random 'stats' on my own preferences if you will:

Never Say (Boring and not much need for a re-step from the original)
Colored (I still don't think I've played this before cuz it sounds boring)
Party in the Shop (Sounds gay and too easy)
Healing Vision Rmx (I recall this sucking pretty bad)
Soliton Beam (Boring and not one of malice's best, in other words it sucks)
Love Generation (Haven't tried/don't want to cuz lame song)
Caring Dance (Yawnnnn)
Nightmare (Sounds boring, still haven't tried this surprisingly lmao)
Parasomnia (Probably another one I need to play again)
Perdition Crisis (I was at my wits end with seeing touhou music by this point so no)
Crystal Ann (omg gay song/banner why would i want to play this)
Shylph (boring)
Wrapped Around The Pole (it was frowned upon to play this cmod so i never actually tried this at all rofl. also Ossa files were hugely overrated and had way too many freezes in them ughhhhh)

Total: 13/66 = ~20% of the pack I don't play at all/haven't even tried these files

-Battlefield
-BattleJam
-Breaking Through The Gate
-Centipede
-El Perdedor
-Grave Consequence
-Meteralice
-Passage D -Neus Remix-
-PRESENTER
-Sayonaramatane
-The Island Pt.2

-Activation Synthesis Theory
-AVALON
-Harvest Dance
-Hatsune Miko no Shoushitsu
-Kimi no Heart ni Lock-on
-Neurotoxin
-VALLISTA
-Vortex
-Weapon
-Where's Bill

So out of the files I have tried, I would regularly play: (10/21) ~50%

The rest of the pack I haven't tried cuz song sounds boring or I haven't seen scores on the others (tbh). I highly doubt I would replay 80+% of the songs I have yet to try :s

That being said the appeal doesn't come from quality at all but target audience is based on song choice and song intensity. ODIPacks cater to someone like me who particularly likes metal, swing, techy beats, and most importantly -DIFFICULT FILES-. The other huge turn-off for me is mines. For me personally, that's what determines replay value. There's no question that FFR Summer 2012 files were charted well; however, the song choice really kills it for me in addition to nonsensical amounts of mines to make a boring chart more difficult :s.

I don't think Glove is being 'elitist' when he makes rejections on these files, I think he just has a different target audience in mind than the people submitting the files.

[dascookieman]

Originally Posted by swordmasterz

That's kinda less about the quality of files and more about the release times though <_>

If FFR summer '11 and '12 had been released at the same time as ODI1/2 I'm sure they would have had at least similar playcounts

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Question, but are you planning on forcing incorporation of easier charts? It's been a recent initiative to cater to newbie/less-skilled players.

Also are you gonna judge the whole pack by yourself?

i am not gonna force incorporation of easier charts. although i like it, i have several reasons not to do it

i am planning on judging the pack by myself like with ODI2, but i'm sure i will need some help from kommisar

Originally Posted by MrPopadopalis25

I think you might have missed my submission (Poppin' Shower). Should I send it again?

i don't have it in my mail box, that's odd. try resending it

[James May]

I guess I should resend Mudkip as well :/...unless I sent it in after you judged the first set. Anyhow, glad to have you back glove~

[t-rogdor]

Hype

[stargroup100]

Originally Posted by pastapiggy

i will finish one of my wips and submit look foward to it

THIS GUY. OUTTA NOWHERE

Originally Posted by kommisar

It's good. This will ensure every file has been taken apart and fixed to its best potential.

except it's subjective

Originally Posted by NeoMasterPie

Sure, it's not my pack and maybe I shouldn't have been so passive aggressive, but I just don't want to take a step back when we've done so much to eliminate elitism these past years. Technicality isn't everything, if someone "missed 1 drum note" then maybe that's how they meant to express the song. There's only so much that can be considered objectively wrong

I'm a little bit late but I do want to put in my two cents

the community has developed quite a bit recently. ever since the light chancellors packs way back in the day the "elitism" attitude has pretty much been broken down. it's been shown that just about anyone can make decent charts, and this fact alone makes it very difficult for any sort of elitism to re-emerge, as an elitist movement needs to have a reason or cause to back it up

however, right now we really push the community in a different direction. as I've mentioned before in my ffrcp4 notes, the community is taking the "new-school" charting styles well, but it's doing so at the cost of other important factors, like control over note density, transcription accuracy, and smooth pattern flow. this is because people are trying to be fancy before mastering the fundamentals, so reverting back to a more "oldschool" technical style is something the community needs

tl;dr don't fight it, embrace it