FFR Hall of Fame

[scottish]

It should be obvious that previous years cannot be compared to anything recent; I hope everyone sees that. If not, I'll explain a little further.
Basically, what I have in mind is an induction per each year. With this way we'll:


A) Be able to separate and distinguish each player within each era and compare with people that were within the community during that time. This gives us a sense of comparison against the rest of the players during that era rather than having a subjective sense with comparing older players from the earlier eras to things we see in the present. Remember that some of lose track of what was good, what was bad, etc., and would like to take an in-depth look at things.


B) With looking into each era a bit more in-depth, we'll be allowed to make notes per player induction next to his/her name, allowing newer players to see the exact reason behind each player's induction and what he/she has done. Of course these notes aren't going to be long, but I'd like to have people have a sense of what is going on and not question our decisions.


C) With the era-type system, we'd also have the ability to lay out the entire inductions yearly. Rather than compiling an entire list of random things, inducted whenever, we can establish a system of inductions once per year. Every category will fall into these yearly inductions, keeping the system organized and whatnot. We would have done this with previous eras, but going back a digging through mounds of information for each individual year would be hectic, not to mention hard to determine. We'll basically be taking the most noticeable and deserved aspects of each category and listing them. I hope to have this system continue in the future so we can actually keep in mind the memories we have here on the site and also give new users a sense of what this site was like and when.


With this said, I've changed my mind about the deadline of this. I'd rather have the judges take their time with everything, do extensive research for each era they are designated to, and complete it whenever. (This is just the player inductions) Once player inductions are taken care of, we'll compromise a list (From either polls or in a thread) for a list of categories that should be covered in the HOF and continue on from there.


If anyone has anything to add or say about this, please do so.

[[TeRa]]

Pushing back the deadline will most likely be able to help make things more accurate, and fix a few mistakes,if any, but this has gotta start somewhere, then build off that. Overall though, this is most likely going to be pretty succesfull.

[PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR]

Originally Posted by scottish

It should be obvious that previous years cannot be compared to anything recent; I hope everyone sees that. If not, I'll explain a little further.
Basically, what I have in mind is an induction per each year. With this way we'll:
A) Be able to separate and distinguish each player within each era and compare with people that were within the community during that time. This gives us a sense of comparison against the rest of the players during that era rather than having a subjective sense with comparing older players from the earlier eras to things we see in the present. Remember that some of lose track of what was good, what was bad, etc., and would like to take an in-depth look at things.
B) With looking into each era a bit more in-depth, we'll be allowed to make notes per player induction next to his/her name, allowing newer players to see the exact reason behind each player's induction and what he/she has done. Of course these notes aren't going to be long, but I'd like to have people have a sense of what is going on and not question our decisions.
C) With the era-type system, we'd also have the ability to lay out the entire inductions yearly. Rather than compiling an entire list of random things, inducted whenever, we can establish a system of inductions once per year. Every category will fall into these yearly inductions, keeping the system organized and whatnot. We would have done this with previous eras, but going back a digging through mounds of information for each individual year would be hectic, not to mention hard to determine. We'll basically be taking the most noticeable and deserved aspects of each category and listing them. I hope to have this system continue in the future so we can actually keep in mind the memories we have here on the site and also give new users a sense of what this site was like and when.
With this said, I've changed my mind about the deadline of this. I'd rather have the judges take their time with everything, do extensive research for each era they are designated to, and complete it whenever. (This is just the player inductions) Once player inductions are taken care of, we'll compromise a list (From either polls or in a thread) for a list of categories that should be covered in the HOF and continue on from there.
If anyone has anything to add or say about this, please do so.

I'm not gonna lie, I didn't even attempt to read that. BUT scottish knows what's going down. Last time I checked, he was running this show. Ok, enough of my support for whatever scottish is gonna do with this thing. Any dates we should be looking out for, and sneak previews of potential hall of famers?

ps- would have tried to read it if it was spaced differently. The huge wall of text was a turn off.

[scottish]

=O
P.S: Fixed. Will list some things out later.

[EnR]

Ppl that deserve HOF would be, female, dynamo, Bahamut, Shash, Arch0wl

[foilman8805]

Originally Posted by EnR

Ppl that deserve HOF would be, female, dynamo, Bahamut, Shash, Arch0wl

Just to mention a few...

[All_That_Chaz]

Mod category: # of blazze alts banned.

[scottish]

Alright, this is just a few of the ideas I have put together so far, so bear with me.
I would like to establish, besides the actual HOF list, a milestone/timeline "esque", if you will, within the actual HOF itself. This won't be contained within the actual HOF, but will be within the thread.

This time line/milestone may include:

• A time line of FFR's history- When what was established, such as when the site was actual up and running (bet 95% of you don't know the actual date ), what features were installed when and a full list of songs and release dates, speed mods, playback/recording and multiplayer. Anything that really has affected FFR drastically.
• Full list of mods/admins- For recognition purposes. A lot of staff on this site really do not get credit when they really deserve it.
• Tournament winners: Obvious. This will date back to the old days'.
• FFR Yearly Awards: Winners of the yearly awarded stuff.
• Overall Rank Holders: Obvious. Who was number one 4 years ago?
• Milestones: Rubix has an average rank of 1?! What..? Tass has an MP level of 50?! No way...
• Legendary Threads: Links, no need to repeat.

• Helpful users: Some people do a lot more around here than what you think they do..

Just a few things off the top of my head. All I know is FFR would not be where it's at without what has happened in the past; everything has some relevance to who and how we are now. The things and people who have stood out and made a name for themselves around here should deserve the recognition of being among a written, yet shortened, version of our history around. Sure, we could all go snoopin' around 300 pages back in a forum to figure these things out, but I don't care honestly. Having a full list of what has happened and who has done what around here, giving them or it credit, is what really matters in my opinion.

I would like you guys to throw some ideas out there for things you feel that should be recognized in this HOF thread. (Note: This isn't the actual thread, there will obviously be a clean thread for the actual list and whatnot) I'll make a thread in the next few days that will be asking that question. We'll let it meander off until everything is taken care of.

Anyway, in this thread, in the mean time, please feel free to suggest whatever you like. Comment on whatever, just add feedback/ideas. Really, anything would be helpful.

EDIT: As you can see, I write a lot

[Forlorn Radiance]

Originally Posted by scottish

EDIT: As you can see, I write a lot

Seems I read alot....very nice work scottish, i think its a great idea...all of ffr's history put neatly in one spot!

[robertsona]

Originally Posted by KgZ

When someone breaks a record in a sport (lets say Home Runs in baseball), they're not going to say, "oh hey Barry Bonds is in the modern era of baseball where many people in the league use steroids, so instead of putting his record in place of Hank Aaron's (when no one used steroids) we're just going to put his record in a whole new category".

I have never heard anything like that. When you break a record in anything, the new record is always replaced.

He has a point there...

[brothaice]

I was gonna nominate Hammy.

Kool-aid.

[brothaice]

Tera play Club Penguin.

[scottish]

KgZ, I see your point, but you're missing mine.
We're not doing inductions based upon single accomplishments. If that were so, we'd have few players and two hundred categories. Unlike any sport, things have changed around here to the players advantage, drastically.

When baseball had just become a sport, players started out with using regular wooden bats. Overtime, the rules may have progressed, but the sport certainly did not. There isn't anything that has completely allowed players (let's exclude steroids) to have a huge advantage over anything now than someone who played 50 years ago. Players still use wooden bats, there has been no change.

Obviously, if baseball had changed for the players, meaning, let's take your home run example:

When someone breaks a record in a sport (lets say Home Runs in baseball), they're not going to say, "oh hey Barry Bonds is in the modern era of baseball where many people in the league use steroids, so instead of putting his record in place of Hank Aaron's (when no one used steroids) we're just going to put his record in a whole new category".

A home run for Hank Aaron is, and will remain for awhile, the same as any other player who hit's a home run, correct? There is no advantage within the baseball system nowadays that allows any player to have any slight advantage of hitting that ball out of the park. If there was, and let's say, hypothetically, that the MLB allowed the use of steroids, along with aluminum casted bats and put a cap limit on the amount of different pitches a pitcher can throw, then that's a different story. Obviously home runs would be a lot easier to achieve.
This is kind of how FFR is, in essence. Initially, everything was standard. No speed mods, no growing community of players. No playback. Nothing, just playing FFR. If game play had stayed the same throughout the course of it's 5+ years, I would have no problem creating an overall list of records for each specific accomplishment, but it hasn't. What you're really pushing towards is the exact same thing as we already have; high score lists.

I'm sorry, there is absolutely no way one person on here will convince me that you are able to compare someone from this day and age to someone who played 4 years ago.

[jimerax]

Originally Posted by scottish

This time line/milestone may include:

• A time line of FFR's history- When what was established, such as when the site was actual up and running (bet 95% of you don't know the actual date ), what features were installed when and a full list of songs and release dates, speed mods, playback/recording and multiplayer. Anything that really has affected FFR drastically.
• Full list of mods/admins- For recognition purposes. A lot of staff on this site really do not get credit when they really deserve it.
• Tournament winners: Obvious. This will date back to the old days'.
• FFR Yearly Awards: Winners of the yearly awarded stuff.
• Overall Rank Holders: Obvious. Who was number one 4 years ago?
• Milestones: Rubix has an average rank of 1?! What..? Tass has an MP level of 50?! No way...
• Legendary Threads: Links, no need to repeat.

• Helpful users: Some people do a lot more around here than what you think they do..

Nice list.

1. maybe you can guess the date of most events from the forum logs. first, we need a list of events without the date. I've posted an uncompleted list here while ago.

2. We need historical Admin/Mods list, not only current one. Does someone here remember when Arch0wl was a Mod?

3. As far as I know, 5 or 6 official tournaments(or leagues) were held in history. yea we can list the winners.

4. Are you talking about Award of the year? just need to see the thread then.

5. OR holders are easily listed, but it would be hard to tell the date. FYI when OR system started I was already rank 1.

6. including stuff like first AAA or FC of some songs?

7. after FFR scores thread was created, it's not that important for me.

8. maybe, a bit hard to tell for me though.

[scottish]

Jim, when I catch you on AIM, I'll IM you so we can discuss all of this. We'll have Chris tag along too.

[dore]

There were rule changes after the Dead-Ball Era which made it easier to hit home runs (techniques pitchers used to gain an advantage over the batters were banned after a player was killed by a bean ball he couldn't see), around the time Babe Ruth came into fame. Baseball parks also became shorter. But you are right over the last 80 years there hasn't been much change.

Off-topic FTW

[MixMasterLar]

Helpful users: Some people do a lot more around here than what you think they do..

Ben and Sulfer's Widget work comes to mind, but I realize there has to be more then just them.

I think adding the FFR awards is fairly pointless, since we could easily just add them to Legendary threads and sticky them. btw who's doing that this year?

[customstuff]

Shash and MrRubix. End of thread lol.

[rade0110]

If you're going to break down this into eras, maybe something that has to do with MP for every era (although I think it could only be the last two?). Something like, who the best of the best were. I only bring this up because there is that specific group of MP players who were great but did not post in the forums, or really contribute to anything outside of MP. Remember when ddrzone had a lvl of like 47? I really only know about MP from like June 2005 on, but I'm sure there are still a few of you around from when MP was first starting. If you can, and could remember who genuine Greats of their time were I feel they should be recognized.

[i love you]

LOL, i thought about this idea like 8 months ago but I didn't want to make a thread about it. Seeing as back then, i was a total noob who gets pwned by lvl 7's everytime. So who would support me back then? NO one.

Ps: Yay for scottish for making this thread. <3