The Speedrunning Thread

[DayMan951]

Congrats on the sub 12, kommi. That's a pretty good time

[YoshL]

n1 time kommi

also, in the saturday race, won 1st place, cut my PB from 3:10 to 3:07 (hours) for banjo-tooie

next step WR

[awein999]

I love speedrunning. Haven't done any console games yet.

[qqwref]

Wait, in Vertigo, why didn't you need to collect all the eggs?

[awein999]

In advanced mode you have to. In non advanced mode only need to collect eggs in last lvl. I speedran advanced mode and got a pretty good score but never uploaded it to yt. Wanted a better run :P

[igotrhythm]

I always find it interesting how speedrunners adopt different strategies if they're performing live and/or they're doing a single-segment run. Of course, with Exo's 18:39 any% of Super Meat Boy (featuring a perfect Larrie's Lament, made all the more amazing by the fact that you can't manipulate him into jumping) this wasn't really the case, but still. With single segment runs, the focus is on finding ways to do things quickly with less chance of screwing it up big time, and with live runs I think the policy is to go for it once and then fall back on the safe route if you miss.

Since I've been playing a lot of the original Legend of Zelda recently thanks to the GBA port, I've been wondering exactly what goes into the art of RNG manipulation. Clearly, it varies from game to game, but the fascinating thing about the Zelda series is that due to the large number of times the RNG is called for enemy spawn locations in dungeons, even tool-assisted runners have a bitch of a time getting everything to line up perfectly.

So what I'm wondering is this: What games have you tried to run in which luck played a significant role? Of course, luck is what separates a good run from a great run and a great run from THE RUN, but how much actual difference is there?

[YoshL]

Originally Posted by igotrhythm

I always find it interesting how speedrunners adopt different strategies if they're performing live and/or they're doing a single-segment run. Of course, with Exo's 18:39 any% of Super Meat Boy (featuring a perfect Larrie's Lament, made all the more amazing by the fact that you can't manipulate him into jumping) this wasn't really the case, but still. With single segment runs, the focus is on finding ways to do things quickly with less chance of screwing it up big time, and with live runs I think the policy is to go for it once and then fall back on the safe route if you miss.

Since I've been playing a lot of the original Legend of Zelda recently thanks to the GBA port, I've been wondering exactly what goes into the art of RNG manipulation. Clearly, it varies from game to game, but the fascinating thing about the Zelda series is that due to the large number of times the RNG is called for enemy spawn locations in dungeons, even tool-assisted runners have a bitch of a time getting everything to line up perfectly.

So what I'm wondering is this: What games have you tried to run in which luck played a significant role? Of course, luck is what separates a good run from a great run and a great run from THE RUN, but how much actual difference is there?

Banjo-Tooie.

- Jinjo pattern - 30s
- Klungo pattern - 1 min
- Mayahem Temple codes - 1 min
- Jinjo box - 30s
- Woo Fak Fak pattern - 2 mins
- JRL code - 10s
- Jamjar bonks - up to 2-3 minutes
- Other misc. RNG related events - easily 10 minutes

it really varies run per run, but easily you could lose 10 minutes to bad RNG in a BT run. As a reference, my PB is a 3:07 with decent luck, but not the best. probably lost at least 5 minutes to RNG related stuff (so maybe a 3:02).

The world record at the time was a 3:04. (it's a 2:59 for this category now, 2:54 with manipulated RNG at the beginning)

[Charu]

I'm considering attempting to speedrun something, just because it looks like it could be fun to absolutely dominate the game by playing by it's own rules and doing everything the developers did not intend to happen.

The problem though is I don't know what I want to speedrun. I like playing ma games casually darn it!

[igotrhythm]

Racing games are a good start, I would think. Gets you into the mindset you need of shaving off every possible second and fraction thereof.

Otherwise, focus on a game you know inside and out.

[Spenner]

Used to have the world record for 5 or so Super Meat Boy levels. My savefile seems bunk now :C gonna try getting there again.

[igotrhythm]

So apparently even Candy Box can be sped through. Here's a guy doing the whole thing in about 63 minutes.

[HalfStep]

I actually considered trying to speed through that game, but didn't wanna take the time to figure out all the optimal strats haha.

[Arntonach]

Originally Posted by igotrhythm

So what I'm wondering is this: What games have you tried to run in which luck played a significant role? Of course, luck is what separates a good run from a great run and a great run from THE RUN, but how much actual difference is there?

Lost Kingdoms 2

At the end of every mission, you can select a number of cards depending on your ranking. The higher the ranking, the more card you can get. There are 6 cards to choose from with a ranking going from 0 to 3. Getting extra copies of cards can be nice, but some cards are vital, such as Wizard and MechaPult. And there's the Flayer Spawn's small chance of auto-killing any Mech monster and how Sol behaves in two of the missions.

Yeah, SS'ing this game is a pain. D:

[remedy1502]

Oh there's a speedrunning thread lmao
I haven't run anything in a while but I do still hold the Tony Hawk's Pro Skater any% WR at 5:31. I have plans to go for sub 5:10, but I'm not sure when I'll go back to it.

And run sm64, johnny bazookatone, and snowboard kids 2 (when I feel like relaxing)

http://www.twitch.tv/remedy1502/
My stream, but I mostly just play mario kart wii lately.

[cetaka]

good http://www.twitch.tv/doughyguy92/c/2396729

[igotrhythm]

Edit: what the fuck werster. What the fuck. Read the description and have mind blown... X_X

[igotrhythm]

andrewg

wat r u doin

andrewg

STAHP

[YoshL]

mario party 2 tournament root for Daikyi (me) pls

twitch.tv/paradoxkarl

[YoshL]

double post for update + bragging

Bracket C winner was me, because i screwed over Chabo with a 70 coin duel
Also destroyed Quarterfinal B, was worried about yashichi, but in the end i managed to bring him from 140 coins to 0 through 1 duel (also netting me the coin star at 310 coins max lolol). On the /very last turn/ i needed a 10 to hit a Boo star steal on yashichi to knock him out of the tourney, since he was the biggest threat. RNG clutch.

worried the hell about neskamikaze though.

semifinal is on thursday, kinda expecting Fasch to join us. I'm kinda worried about Chabo, since I've played him in brackets, and he definitely was able to overcome the input lag and get the mini-game star (duels won it for me), but idk. Through quarterfinals, it's kinda really easily becoming clear who's really in it or not. or it's just that they're getting lucky as hell lol

[_Fluttershy_]

Heh, just discovered this thread and I must say I'm a massive fan of speedrunning. I've been watching mainly Siglemic, Trihex and Cosmo for a while but have started watching Stelzig, Lee_SDA, CarlSagan and others. I've tried speedrunning myself but I'm not good enough lol, but yeah I've got a stream channel for anyone whose interested.

http://www.twitch.tv/DanMeister1234

I've hardly speedran properly but as soon as I can get a good speedrun going, that would be awesome! XD