TWG XCVIII: A bunch of people in a room playing mafia

[YoshL]

...is there a possibility for masons?

the mafia could potentially be 0Ts, giving an extra 2 letters.

I can't think of any other power roles that'd fit

[Tps222]

I really think you're wrong, and even though I believe your claim, I also believe that you're smart enough at figuring out what roles are around and which roles aren't to be able to claim an non-counterclaimable role.

I don't like the Xiz lynch either anymore. The fact that he has focused on YMIA as much as I have is only confirmation to me that YMIA is a wolf.

The next game is going to be a traditional TWG. 3 wolves, 1 MW, 1 seer, 1 guardian. 24 hour nights and 48 hour days.

[YoshL]

no vote i need to think this over just a tiny bit i'll be back

[YoshL]

in the end, if you looka t the scenarios given, manti, the safe lynch to you would be kraut?

[Krauthammer]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

I really think the TPS team with Kraut is the way to go.

Daaaaaaamn I got lost in your words.

What team is what again? Are you saying that TPS and I could be wolves together?

Please rephrase what you said, as I'm very confused with your way to organize that post you made.

[DarkManticoreX2]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

There's several things im looking at right now:

YoshL and I are confirmed humans.
I have to assume Vic's inherent disinterest in this game is due to her being human.

This leaves 3 wolves in 5 players:

Assumption 1
TPS YIMA are not wolf/wolf - At most one of them is a wolf.

Assumption Chain A

If TPS is a wolf, Xiz has been agreeing with pretty much everything TPS does/says all game. Xiz has to be a partner

I highly doubt Kraut would have put TPS so close to death on D1, but V flipped over to James too early to see if anyone would have made a move to save tps or james, and I was hoping to catch a wolf in that switch. Kraut would not have felt the need to draw attention to himself by switching over to james.

TPS/Xiz/(Drizzle or Kraut or Vic)

Assumption Chain B

If YMIA is a wolf:

Xiz and TPS have been trying to get him lynched all game, not just on one day where he was close to being lynched, but continually. They can't be in conjunction. this eliminates both Xiz and TPS from being wolves. Process of elimination leads to:

YMIA/Drizzle/Kraut



Assumption 2
If TPS YMIA are both human and they just got into a extenuated fight, the wolves have to be: Drizzle/Xiz/Kraut (process of elimination)


I really think the TPS team with Kraut is the way to go.

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[DarkManticoreX2]

Originally Posted by YoshL

in the end, if you looka t the scenarios given, manti, the safe lynch to you would be kraut?

Yes, but Kraut is on a lot of those lists by process of elimination. Unfortunatley I feel the most likely wolf team scenario (TPS/Xiz/Player X) is the weakest in association with Kraut.

[YoshL]

xiz (3): Manti, kraut, (yoshl), yo man
yoman (2): xiz, TPS
Manti (1): drizzle

assumption: xiz is not mafia
currently, manti/kraut/me were voting for xiz. manti and I aren't mafia. At most, there would be 2 mafia voting for xiz. easy for 1 more mafia to bandwagon the fuc on, assuming vic isn't mafia, and is a human who's just lost interest. Basically, xiz is mafia.

this means kraut and yo man are almost guaranteed to not be mafia at the same time. At the very most, maybe one of them, but it's really likely that neither are.

That's why my guess has been tps/drizzle/xiz.

[YoshL]

*bandwagon the fuc on And win the game to be more clear

[Tps222]

Originally Posted by YoshL

xiz (3): Manti, kraut, (yoshl), yo man
yoman (2): xiz, TPS
Manti (1): drizzle

assumption: xiz is not mafia
currently, manti/kraut/me were voting for xiz. manti and I aren't mafia. At most, there would be 2 mafia voting for xiz. easy for 1 more mafia to bandwagon the fuc on, assuming vic isn't mafia, and is a human who's just lost interest. Basically, xiz is mafia.

this means kraut and yo man are almost guaranteed to not be mafia at the same time. At the very most, maybe one of them, but it's really likely that neither are.

That's why my guess has been tps/drizzle/xiz.

So you think that if I were a wolf, my team plan would be "Lets 2 of us railroad YMIA the whole game, and drizzle can attack Manti the whole game, and no one change votes ever and make it super obvious that we're avoiding Xiz, our wolfy teammate".

That would be such a stupid strategy that I can't even believe you're considering this combination of people. What if Xiz is human? What does that do for Kraut/Yoman?

If anything, I think Kraut is a good middle-ground vote if you guys don't want to see YMIA die (Which is beginning to look more and more suspicious to me).

[YoshL]

I haven't voted yet because i'm still thinking, in case the past like 3 times i've done it hasn't been clear enough, or if the stupidly impulsive posting nature i have hasn't tipped you off

lets make assumptions, because that's great in figuring things out.
xiz (3): Manti, kraut, (yoshl), yo man
yoman (2): xiz, TPS
Manti (1): drizzle
once more.
not wolf, assuming manti, vic, and let's throw in TPS for a bit.
potential wolves - xiz, yo man, kraut, drizzle.
which means one of them wouldn't be wolves.

xiz, i'm like 100% sure is a wolf, that's done.
leaves yo man, kraut, and drizzle as potential wolves.

means there's at least 1 wolf voting for their teammate.

I'm seriosuly going out on a limb in saying, drizz is a wolf. The reasoning is, at this stage in the game people have to have been suspiscious at some point or another. You can't say "one person was the only suspiscious one, the other 7 i don't think are very suspiscious". This means either, you are naive as holy hell, or you're a wolf.

You can have ranks of who's most to least suspiscious, and all that. Let's look back earlier even, to when she had a strong feeling that j-rodd was innocent (fiction). I'm wondering, as a brand new player, how she can be all "unsure about decisions because new player", and yet say something so definite as "j-rodd definitely isn't suspiscious". As a new town player, I don't think one would be so definite and sure of innocence, especially on day 1.

This is a little slip of the hand. This is "hmm, I know j-rodd isn't a mafia, so I'll pretend to think he's not suspiscious so that when he's dead, I won't look suspiscious either because that was my opinion on him in the first place".

drizz/xiz/??? as mafia

anyways, I don't think a Xiz and Tps team could even happen.
Manti, you said
"If TPS is a wolf, Xiz has been agreeing with pretty much everything TPS does/says all game. Xiz has to be a partner"
I think the complete opposite. It'd be stupid making such a blatant connection with another wolf, like TPS says. i don't think wolves would do something like have 2 teammembers attack yo man the whole entire time etc. what he said

this leaves yo man and kraut.
ugh

[YoshL]

also what if vic is sk and was just too lazy to send in a kill for any night i'd join manti in killing her

same if she's mafia

[DarkManticoreX2]

Originally Posted by YoshL

*bandwagon the fuc on And win the game to be more clear

Counterpoint of Vic being mafia and didn't see the thread yet. but yes.

[YoshL]

at this point, because of the crap from day1/2, the only bet we have is taking the safest/most likely assumptions.

vic has been absent for p-much all of day 2, and 3. It's been like, 1.5 weeks or something ridiculous like that.

[Xiz]

Incase people actually care about my thoughts...

I am 99% sure YMIA is red for obvious reasons. Please consider that.

I'm still gonna go with my gut opinion on Vicc and say she is someone to look at. (As I said before) That's really the only reason why I see myself as alive right now. She did say she was gonna be gone but for this long is kinda silly. I just searched for anything I could use against her, and I found nothing... So I don't know.


Oh, also,

*drinks the last bit of water in the cooler slowly while staring at YoshL*

Aaaaahhhhh...

[drizzleRomanceGirl]

Krauth, what are your opinions on who you currently think is part of the mafia? Have your opinions changed recently?

[YoshL]

*shamlessly french kisses like a zombie to suck all the moisture out of xiz*


ANYWAYS

[DarkManticoreX2]

I man thats a pretty wolfy move there. Drinking all the water left in the cooler so we have none left when we get to the next day phase.

He's trying to kill us with dehydration now!

[Krauthammer]

Originally Posted by drizzleRomanceGirl

Krauth, what are your opinions on who you currently think is part of the mafia? Have your opinions changed recently?

Nah, my opinion is still the same I said the last time, nothing has changed in there.

[drizzleRomanceGirl]

*sigh* Unless Vic comes back, I currently have nothing substantial to work with. I guess for now I'll lynch whoever is on the brink of death and only needs one more vote.