TWG CLII: Another Sleepless Night - GAME THREAD

[Charu]

Originally Posted by gold stinger

Tokzic is a possible lynch candidate for today but I wouldn't exactly scumread him. Maybe I'm too nice. I'd throw him under the bus the next day ez.

...What the fuck...?

[Red Blaster]

Originally Posted by Charu

And now I think you're town just because you were tilted so easily, lmao

Oh my goodness

This is like the fourth person you've said this too.

[Charu]

Second person, actually.

Come on Reddy

[Red Blaster]

Originally Posted by gold stinger

sorry, my bad.

storn is null

blindreper is null, although I really don't like how he's only hmm'd and hah'd the conversations.

Tokzic is a possible lynch candidate for today but I wouldn't exactly scumread him. Maybe I'm too nice. I'd throw him under the bus the next day ez.

Xel is a town lean but less of a town lean than Gradiant.

Tokzic, GS, XelNya team

[Red Blaster]

Originally Posted by Charu

Second person, actually.

Come on Reddy

Minimum of 3 at least

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by gold stinger

I think that sounds a lot like cross reasoning between this Tokzic not posting stuff, being upset that Charu kinda tunneled you, and not having a third. Your scumreads feel lack-luster, dull, as in, blending into a general consensus.

What do you think of other people? Is there no one else that shrugged you the wrong way?

What do you think of the points I put up about sunfan?

how is it blending in a general consensus? No one else was scumreading tokzic before me, jake pinged charu out before me but has hopped off of him and no one else pinged blind out before me

I've given my reads multiple times and they haven't changed that much at this point

town:
botchi, I don't like how he's scumreading me but I guess I'll see his reasoning hopefully and be able to evaluate better. His few posts that he's had are so different from the past few games where he's rolled wolf every time and are actually evaluating the game and thinking that it's highly unlikely that he's wolf again. I want him to post more but he's my strongest town

xelnya: said earlier and I'll say it again, I don't think wolf xel makes a post like that right off the bat, could be wrong but I liked what I saw and definitely not a D0 candidate

jake: I don't like that he's scumreading me but I like that he's pushing

null:
gold stinger, the reason for having you null and not town when I probably should be townreading you is really bad, it's because charu said this game seemed similar to your first game where you rolled wolf, everything else I've liked. Actually now that I think about it sunfan said the exact opposite, that this game is totally different from that first game so this really doesn't make sense. I guess what's also holding me back is that you're scumreading me for my normal town play (but you should evaluate that for yourself)

roundbox: he's not diplomatic and neutral like I've usually seen him as a wolf, his thoughts feel less constructed and more natural, but I haven't seen anything I've really liked in particular (although I appreciate him not wanting to lynch me)

storn: said it earlier, his pushes are bad but they make me think he's town except it's hard for me to tell because I've completely misread him before so I have him at null

sunfan: I said earlier I tend to scumread greg and that's what's preventing me from townleaning him, probably something to do with how he posts that rubs me the wrong way (not your fault greg) but I don't like how a bunch of his reads disagree with mine (namely his read on me which seems to be ??? and his read on red blaster/charu)

red blaster: I dont' think I can read him well at this point, nothing he's done has seemed bad to me and he's defended me which always biases me and I'm really not seeing why people are voting him

scummy: tokzic, blind, charu (??? idk at this point, he's posting better than earlier)

so yeah, not a lot of scumreads, a whole lot of null reads, and a few townreads

[gold stinger]

Originally Posted by Charu

...What the fuck...?

I mean if you guys want to scumread Tokzic for not posting anything that's fine. If he's not going to contribute any meaningful info to town than it's just deadweight & a rotten part of the apple, but I'd like to be at least somewhat sure in where their thoughts are at before I think badly of them.

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by gold stinger

What do you think of the points I put up about sunfan?

realized I forgot to answer this question

I don't really know, I don't feel like he defended roundbox that strongly, kind of felt like he waffled between roundbox making the kill potentially because he's emotionless and it being possible from anyone because dbp. The progression away from it felt fine, it stopped being a topic when roundbox actually started speaking. I just gave you my read on sunfan as well, I guess I don't agree with your points

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by Charu

Second person, actually.

Come on Reddy

who was the first person? iirc you said something about me tilting but I might be wrong

[cedolad]

How the fuck do you guys have full lean reads already jesus christ slow tf down its only d1 lmao Fuck

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by gold stinger

I mean if you guys want to scumread Tokzic for not posting anything that's fine. If he's not going to contribute any meaningful info to town than it's just deadweight & a rotten part of the apple, but I'd like to be at least somewhat sure in where their thoughts are at before I think badly of them.

fwiw I'm not just scumreading him for not posting, I'm scumreading him for throwing shade on me really weakly just to further the bandwagon on me and also for his lack of contributions failing to line up with his entrance

[Charu]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

who was the first person? iirc you said something about me tilting but I might be wrong

Was cedolad

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

I'm not really seeing where you're coming from on the red blaster read. I'm a bit biased/possibly pocketed because he's actually reading me correctly but he hasn't seemed scummy to met yet. The storn vote made sense because storn's couple posts leading up to him voting to me were garbage, even if he says he forgot to vote for me (which is even more garbage)

Let me kinda say that it's not a super hard sell this early

But RB hasn't done jack diddly shit. Go ahead, go reread his game.

(And neither has Botchi. Thus why I was so heavy on the feigning content thing. Botchi getting townread imho is worse but I'm MORE likely to be wrong there.)

RB back when he was newer would do this thing where he'd post very little of substance through the game

keep saying he couldn't hard place anything / other shitty excuses

and then never deliver anything, and get really far in the game doing this

and he was scum a good amount of times

so it's a bit of a gut read because I've seen this pattern before

I CAN be sold that he's town. But I want this shit taken care of QUICK otherwise we're gonna have a problem later.

and holy fuck does it annoy me when I see it.

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

I've never seen xel do as much work as he did in the big post as a wolf, of course he could change that but it's less likely and I liked most of the post so I'm not lynching him today

I thought I made this post earlier whoops

I have before I think.

Originally Posted by botchi246

Also, i think it was xel who called me out for being scummy with my earlier posts. First of all, get off me and second, get off me.

I redefine this scum read
Fain activity exquisite
Everything you post
Bathed in fake activity

Imagine me, the mod above no doubt will see this
Never feign activity in such confidence that you won't get scum read
For a fake ass post

Come @ me. I will fuck you up.

Originally Posted by Charu

Wow Xel, you must've been bored when you made that post

You must have skipped it.

I know I made it easy.

Originally Posted by gold stinger

Xel you should post more. Makes me doubt my townread on Botchi, I might have jumped the gun on it. hmm

Botchi needs more to be the better case as discussed further up.

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

Ur shit

I don't wanna hear that from you.

^_^

[cedolad]

Originally Posted by cedolad

You realize no one literally targeted anyone, save for the Mafia... maybe the Jailkeep

This what you're referring to?

[gold stinger]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

also, why does defensiveness to you more likely indicate wolf? I'm actually curious because I tend to interpret a lack of defensiveness as wolfy

defensiveness feels like you're making yourself more excluded from everyone because you're more important than everyone else. I could die from targeting a wolf that arms himself and not care one bit knowing that more than 2 people dying in a night is a BIG thing that can be talked about for the rest of the people that are alive, and that's a decision that everyone is going to have to make every night phase.

[gold stinger]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

also, why does defensiveness to you more likely indicate wolf? I'm actually curious because I tend to interpret a lack of defensiveness as wolfy

defensiveness feels like you're making yourself more excluded from everyone because you're more important than everyone else. I could die from targeting a wolf that arms himself and not care one bit knowing that more than 2 people dying in a night is a BIG thing that can be talked about for the rest of the people that are alive, and that's a decision that everyone is going to have to make every night phase.

[gold stinger]

w e w l a d d o u b l e p o s t

[XelNya]

Also Trevor you're a boss for not making me figure out when day ends time-wise.

That said I'll likely miss EOD because work has got this whole staggering lunches for dumb reasons thing going.

I will however likely be here around 6pm server.

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by XelNya

Also Trevor you're a boss for not making me figure out when day ends time-wise.

That said I'll likely miss EOD because work has got this whole staggering lunches for dumb reasons thing going.

I will however likely be here around 6pm server.

I MIGHT be here the last five minutes, I could be here for it. I can't actually tell you, but likely not given the statistics that I get normal lunch when this cunt manager is here.

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by gold stinger

defensiveness feels like you're making yourself more excluded from everyone because you're more important than everyone else. I could die from targeting a wolf that arms himself and not care one bit knowing that more than 2 people dying in a night is a BIG thing that can be talked about for the rest of the people that are alive, and that's a decision that everyone is going to have to make every night phase.

this reminds me

I'm visiting botchi tonight if I'm a compulsive visitor

I don't think we should make theoretic jailings public, though