Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread - Page 33

NFD · 10-14-2008, 11:21 PM

Did you put the correct BPM from in? It's 118.80 I believe.

Xx{Midday}xX · 10-17-2008, 11:37 PM

It just hit me.

Why are GoSW, CRASH the Beat, and Gacha Gacha Cute Figu@Mate in Misc and Dance2?

Hentai games are games.

**bmah** · 10-18-2008, 02:34 AM

Maybe we didn't know that beforehand. Also, the "arcade" genre was probably originally intended for old-skool games, or at least well-known ones. The whole genre seems a little weird after we count stuff like Touhou or beatmania as "arcade" games. IMO those kind of songs would fit better in a different category altogether.

**jimerax** · 10-18-2008, 03:50 AM

game > arcade

I don't think those should be included in arcade.
video games like FF are ok, touhou is.. borderline.

Xx{Midday}xX · 10-18-2008, 01:32 PM

Oh ok.

Necropotence is Touhou, but I guess that isn't being counted either, because it's not "arcade" like?

I'm trying to shrink the gargantuan genres, is all.

**Tasselfoot** · 10-18-2008, 02:43 PM

arcade really is meant for the old console remixes. touhou, as jx said, is really borderline.

and, IMO, stuff that doesn't sound like arcade or sounds more appropriate in another genre, should go in another genre. that's why i had originally put some of the touhou stuff in rock or elsewhere.

and the hentai game stuff... that's just not arcade. leave it where it is.

operationstrawbarry · 10-18-2008, 03:52 PM

actually, there are a lot of songs that are in the wrong catagory as well as a new catagory that should of been made such as DNB/jungle and Breakcore. There.... that got rid of most of the mis files.

I can give examples on what songs go where

and how is necropotence touhou. Thats gabba/speedcore.

**robertsona** · 10-18-2008, 03:53 PM

it has touhou origins i guess

sc979 · 10-18-2008, 04:04 PM

It's a remix of Necrofantasia. I think. Not really too noticeable.

i love gabba · 10-18-2008, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xx{Midday}xX

It just hit me.

Why are GoSW, CRASH the Beat, and Gacha Gacha Cute Figu@Mate in Misc and Dance2?

Hentai games are games.

All I know is that CRASH the Beat is a GoSW remix, but is GoSW a remix of something?

Anyways, I agree that hgame are games.

Btw, I really don't understand the D2 genre, does Setsujou! Hyakka Ryouran, Lawn wake or eclipse etc. got something to do with Dance? (oh and talking about Setsujou, what's Electronic Dance pop ?)

behanjc · 10-18-2008, 04:37 PM

Remix of Going on from Atlach=Nacha or something like that.
S.S.H. has made several remixes of the song too.

**Patashu** · 10-18-2008, 05:22 PM

the genre system in ffr is arbitrary what else is new

operationstrawbarry · 10-18-2008, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patashu

the genre system in ffr is arbitrary what else is new

true... but its an ez problem to fix and theres no attempt... should be fixed

Thats just my opinion though

Xx{Midday}xX · 10-19-2008, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by i love gabba

Btw, I really don't understand the D2 genre, does Setsujou! Hyakka Ryouran, Lawn wake or eclipse etc. got something to do with Dance? (oh and talking about Setsujou, what's Electronic Dance pop ?)

I thought E-Dance Pop was Ethno-Dance Pop. (Japanese ethnic music)

Quote:

Originally Posted by operationstrawbarry

true... but its an ez problem to fix and theres no attempt... should be fixed

Thats just my opinion though

They made an attempt... they moved Touhou to arcade, and Venetian Snares to misc. Attempt.

Then again, how would we sort these songs WITHOUT making new genres? <_< I can't answer that, so I haven't complained or stopped complaining about it (I think).

I don't remember whether this was answered or not, but what is Touhou 2? These "styles" bother me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by foilman8805

Lapis is definitely a VC. That jumpstream is way to hard for a 9.

Also, what's the reasoning for the C rating on Over the Frail Dream? That stream is like 200 BPM...

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...ad.php?t=34509

Just in time for discussion.

**jimerax** · 10-19-2008, 12:33 AM

difficulty: wrong thread

btw I don't like the way of current arcade genre, since I think genre should be determined by the music style.

**foilman8805** · 10-19-2008, 12:34 AM

Oh, sorry about that, guys.

Xx{Midday}xX · 10-19-2008, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimerax

difficulty: wrong thread

btw I don't like the way of current arcade genre, since I think genre should be determined by the music style.

Then arcade would disappear, wouldn't it? It depends on what you would describe arcade music with. There are 8-bit songs that aren't game related, and there are rock songs that are game related. Therefore, arcade should be a genre where all music related to games are placed.

Arcade music=music associated with games. What one would usually call 8-bit/16-bit aren't arcade. They just happened to be what was first used in the more primitive games.

Recently there are many game music that can fall under rock and classic. There would be no boundary line if we went by style.

I am under the impression that making new genres is difficult, because people have told me so. But now that I think about it, Token, Skill, and Support came in, so is it really not possible to make more genres? There are a few notable styles of music that can fill up another genre.

**Patashu** · 10-19-2008, 12:59 AM

The genre system as it is is utterly arbitrary, but discerning the actual genre of 600 some different songs and forming a brand new category system - well, it'd take a while.

Xx{Midday}xX · 10-19-2008, 01:05 AM

I can make a list of songs from Dance and Misc that can form 1 or 2 larger new genres. It isn't necessary to do everything at once, but little by little, we can make subtle changes.

Music pertaining to anime, or containing anime into one. (Probably goes against jimerax's idea of a "genre")

I don't know what it's called, but Venetian Snares and The Flashbulb type music into another.

We can brainstorm ideas, accept some, refute some, and list the songs. One thing we should ascertain is whether genre will be based on common style (how jimerax defines genre) or common theme (like the current arcade).

Also, this is a job we, the users, can do. Sure, only admins can make the actual changes, but we can do everything we can to help them, right? <_<

We can start by making a separate thread, I guess. I would, but I have no means of maintaining it during my stage of life. I half-gave up on all of my others.

**jimerax** · 10-19-2008, 01:13 AM

Anime isn't too good with the same reason as Arcade/Game.

Dance can have more sub-genres before we make Dance3, like DnB, Trance,Pop, etc.

10-14-2008, 11:21 PM	#641
NFD FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: I see us on a beach down in, Mexico Age: 31 Posts: 4,715	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread Did you put the correct BPM from in? It's 118.80 I believe. __________________

10-17-2008, 11:37 PM	#642
Xx{Midday}xX FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: My own world. Miserable. Disgusting. Appalling. Pessimistic. Horrific. Terrible. Posts: 3,518	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread It just hit me. Why are GoSW, CRASH the Beat, and Gacha Gacha Cute Figu@Mate in Misc and Dance2? Hentai games are games. __________________ Any *FFR song title* discrepancies? List them here. Willing to accurately translate Japanese for free *Accumulating all playstyles here!* つまんないシグでスマソ(´・ω・`)

10-18-2008, 02:34 AM	#643
bmah shots FIRED Global Moderator, User Support, Judge Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Edmonton, AB Age: 36 Posts: 8,448	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread Maybe we didn't know that beforehand. Also, the "arcade" genre was probably originally intended for old-skool games, or at least well-known ones. The whole genre seems a little weird after we count stuff like Touhou or beatmania as "arcade" games. IMO those kind of songs would fit better in a different category altogether.

10-18-2008, 03:50 AM	#644
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread game > arcade I don't think those should be included in arcade. video games like FF are ok, touhou is.. borderline.

10-18-2008, 01:32 PM	#645
Xx{Midday}xX FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: My own world. Miserable. Disgusting. Appalling. Pessimistic. Horrific. Terrible. Posts: 3,518	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread Oh ok. Necropotence is Touhou, but I guess that isn't being counted either, because it's not "arcade" like? I'm trying to shrink the gargantuan genres, is all. __________________ Any *FFR song title* discrepancies? List them here. Willing to accurately translate Japanese for free *Accumulating all playstyles here!* つまんないシグでスマソ(´・ω・`) Last edited by Xx{Midday}xX; 10-18-2008 at 01:42 PM..

10-18-2008, 02:43 PM	#646
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread arcade really is meant for the old console remixes. touhou, as jx said, is really borderline. and, IMO, stuff that doesn't sound like arcade or sounds more appropriate in another genre, should go in another genre. that's why i had originally put some of the touhou stuff in rock or elsewhere. and the hentai game stuff... that's just not arcade. leave it where it is. __________________ RIP

10-18-2008, 03:52 PM	#647
operationstrawbarry FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Taipei Taiwan Age: 37 Posts: 802	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread actually, there are a lot of songs that are in the wrong catagory as well as a new catagory that should of been made such as DNB/jungle and Breakcore. There.... that got rid of most of the mis files. I can give examples on what songs go where and how is necropotence touhou. Thats gabba/speedcore.

10-18-2008, 03:53 PM	#648
robertsona missa in h-moll Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: nyc Age: 28 Posts: 3,995	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread it has touhou origins i guess __________________

10-18-2008, 04:04 PM	#649
sc979 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New York Posts: 1,644	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread It's a remix of Necrofantasia. I think. Not really too noticeable. __________________ ...

10-18-2008, 04:37 PM	#651
behanjc stargroup & me are <3'ers Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 32 Posts: 1,546	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread Remix of Going on from Atlach=Nacha or something like that. S.S.H. has made several remixes of the song too. __________________ http://www.facebook.com/BehanOfficial https://soundcloud.com/behanmusic/powerhouse-ep-preview-out-now

10-18-2008, 05:22 PM	#652
Patashu FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: we traced the call...it's coming from inside the house Age: 33 Posts: 8,609	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread the genre system in ffr is arbitrary what else is new __________________ Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker: http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1) http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

10-19-2008, 12:33 AM	#655
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread difficulty: wrong thread btw I don't like the way of current arcade genre, since I think genre should be determined by the music style.

10-19-2008, 12:34 AM	#656
foilman8805 smoke wheat hail satin Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: LA baby Age: 36 Posts: 5,704	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread Oh, sorry about that, guys.

10-19-2008, 12:59 AM	#658
Patashu FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: we traced the call...it's coming from inside the house Age: 33 Posts: 8,609	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread The genre system as it is is utterly arbitrary, but discerning the actual genre of 600 some different songs and forming a brand new category system - well, it'd take a while. __________________ Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker: http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1) http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

10-19-2008, 01:05 AM	#659
Xx{Midday}xX FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: My own world. Miserable. Disgusting. Appalling. Pessimistic. Horrific. Terrible. Posts: 3,518	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread I can make a list of songs from Dance and Misc that can form 1 or 2 larger new genres. It isn't necessary to do everything at once, but little by little, we can make subtle changes. Music pertaining to anime, or containing anime into one. (Probably goes against jimerax's idea of a "genre") I don't know what it's called, but Venetian Snares and The Flashbulb type music into another. We can brainstorm ideas, accept some, refute some, and list the songs. One thing we should ascertain is whether genre will be based on common style (how jimerax defines genre) or common theme (like the current arcade). Also, this is a job we, the users, can do. Sure, only admins can make the actual changes, but we can do everything we can to help them, right? <_< We can start by making a separate thread, I guess. I would, but I have no means of maintaining it during my stage of life. I half-gave up on all of my others. __________________ Any *FFR song title* discrepancies? List them here. Willing to accurately translate Japanese for free *Accumulating all playstyles here!* つまんないシグでスマソ(´・ω・`) Last edited by Xx{Midday}xX; 10-19-2008 at 01:12 AM..

10-19-2008, 01:13 AM	#660
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread Anime isn't too good with the same reason as Arcade/Game. Dance can have more sub-genres before we make Dance3, like DnB, Trance,Pop, etc.

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