TWG XXXI: A Blast From The Past

[blahblah18]

If SK targets wolf and wolf targets SK both end up dead when morning rises, does that answer everything?

[talisman]

for the public record:

Wilkini Evili (10:51:19 PM): SO.
stressreliefball (10:51:27 PM): yes
Wilkini Evili (10:51:33 PM): I think the whole "guardian's dead" thing is a RUSE.
Wilkini Evili (10:51:36 PM): A RUSE I TELL YOU.
stressreliefball (10:51:40 PM): ok
stressreliefball (10:51:47 PM): except he is
Wilkini Evili (10:52:01 PM): ...oh.
Wilkini Evili (10:52:05 PM): Oopsy there.
stressreliefball (10:52:10 PM): who's the wolf?
Wilkini Evili (10:52:18 PM): Did Iggy talk to you before the day ended?
Wilkini Evili (10:52:23 PM): The wolf?
stressreliefball (10:52:28 PM): kilga or eb
stressreliefball (10:52:31 PM): which one is it
Wilkini Evili (10:52:43 PM): Not sure.
Wilkini Evili (10:52:52 PM): This would be the last day if we're incorrect, right?
stressreliefball (10:52:57 PM): correct
Wilkini Evili (10:53:01 PM): Hmm..
stressreliefball (10:53:03 PM): who would you vote for
stressreliefball (10:53:05 PM): kilga or eb
Wilkini Evili (10:53:39 PM): *reread*
stressreliefball (10:53:55 PM): just based on gut, you've been following
stressreliefball (10:53:58 PM): pick one
Wilkini Evili (10:54:25 PM): Probably eb
stressreliefball (10:54:39 PM): why?
Wilkini Evili (10:55:30 PM): At the end of 26, eb suddenly got all into it on the last day. This game, he managed to be somewhat more helpful as things started to wind down.
stressreliefball (10:55:44 PM): you could say the same of kilga
Wilkini Evili (10:55:45 PM): Though some of that is attributed to MS and whatnot.
Wilkini Evili (10:55:51 PM): That's why I'm torn.
stressreliefball (10:56:25 PM): who have you talked to this game?
Wilkini Evili (10:56:39 PM): A lot to Iggy, a bit to Hans in the beginning.
stressreliefball (10:56:54 PM): that it?
Wilkini Evili (10:57:04 PM): Yeah.
Wilkini Evili (10:57:26 PM): I've been gone the past couple days, though, and have only had a little bit of time at a computer lab to post.
Wilkini Evili (10:57:43 PM): But did Iggy talk to you before the last day ended?
stressreliefball (10:57:56 PM): yeah probably
Wilkini Evili (10:58:35 PM): Me and him were talking about a scenario where the guardian would guard me as the wolves tried to kill me, hopefully frawing one of them out.
stressreliefball (10:58:57 PM): yeah he suggested that to me
Wilkini Evili (10:59:18 PM): But with the guardian dead, it wouldn't've worked.
stressreliefball (10:59:25 PM): nope
stressreliefball (10:59:35 PM): if guardian had been alive I would have resurrected someone anyway
stressreliefball (10:59:50 PM): accomplishes the same thing of keeping you human
stressreliefball (10:59:53 PM): while adding a player
Wilkini Evili (11:00:27 PM): The thing is, I wasn't hit.
Wilkini Evili (11:00:33 PM): Or Blah hasn't PMed me, at least.
Wilkini Evili (11:00:50 PM): Which confuses me why the wolves would pull this.
stressreliefball (11:00:53 PM): well you know I have to take that with an extreme grain of salt
Wilkini Evili (11:00:59 PM): Naturally.
Wilkini Evili (11:03:12 PM): But if there's one wolf left, then turning me won't give enough votes for an insta on LD.
Wilkini Evili (11:03:23 PM): He'd only have 3.1, and 4 is insta.
stressreliefball (11:03:39 PM): this is why I'm somewhat surprised
stressreliefball (11:03:46 PM): it's as if the wolf missed my posts detailing this
Wilkini Evili (11:03:53 PM): Yeah.
stressreliefball (11:04:00 PM): if the wolf attacked iggy
stressreliefball (11:04:04 PM): that was just a bitch move
Wilkini Evili (11:04:18 PM): Plus, the game won't be over if we're wrong.
stressreliefball (11:04:29 PM): well
stressreliefball (11:04:31 PM): yeah it will
stressreliefball (11:04:37 PM): if you've turned, that is
Wilkini Evili (11:04:39 PM): But both sides need the SK dead.
Wilkini Evili (11:04:44 PM): And if they attacked him.
stressreliefball (11:04:46 PM): wolves just wolf him again
Wilkini Evili (11:04:48 PM): The game will keep going.
stressreliefball (11:04:49 PM): no big deal
Wilkini Evili (11:05:01 PM): Oh, yeah.
stressreliefball (11:05:13 PM): wouldn't have numbers though
Wilkini Evili (11:05:16 PM): Forgot about him being immediately vunlnerable.
stressreliefball (11:05:20 PM): hmm
stressreliefball (11:05:41 PM): it doesn't make much sense for them to have attacked iggy unless they want to make sure that the humans lose
Wilkini Evili (11:06:17 PM): I'm just wondering what he's going to do with it, though.
stressreliefball (11:06:41 PM): nothing, probably
Wilkini Evili (11:06:53 PM): Depends on if he even gets a chance.
stressreliefball (11:06:54 PM): wolves would be his greatest threat
stressreliefball (11:07:09 PM): he'd probably hope that one was lynched today
stressreliefball (11:07:19 PM): and in that case, we'd lynch the other tomorrow
Wilkini Evili (11:07:36 PM): If there was a specific order of kills, then he might be able to kill the last wolf before it killed him.
stressreliefball (11:07:41 PM): then iggy kills one of whoever's left and instas ld when day breaks next day
Wilkini Evili (11:07:42 PM): Leaving us in a sticky one.
stressreliefball (11:07:48 PM): I don't know how that works
Wilkini Evili (11:08:12 PM): Let's just hope it doesn't get that complicated.
stressreliefball (11:08:23 PM): at this point it's just a coinflip
stressreliefball (11:08:29 PM): I want it to be an educated coinflip
stressreliefball (11:08:33 PM): but it is a coinflip
Wilkini Evili (11:08:43 PM): Of course, between Kilga and someone else.
stressreliefball (11:08:46 PM): eb
stressreliefball (11:09:00 PM): I just made you pick between them...
Wilkini Evili (11:09:03 PM): Well, yeah.
stressreliefball (11:09:16 PM): how come you remembed kilga and not eb, when you picked eb?
Wilkini Evili (11:09:27 PM): What do you mean?
stressreliefball (11:09:37 PM): you just said "between kilga and someone else"
stressreliefball (11:09:43 PM): not "between kilga and eb"
Wilkini Evili (11:10:20 PM): Well, because the past three times it's been a coinflip, it's been Kilga and eb/blah/eb again.
Wilkini Evili (11:10:35 PM): 26/29/30
Wilkini Evili (11:10:41 PM): *31
stressreliefball (11:10:54 PM): ok
Wilkini Evili signed off at 12:25:12 AM.


(also note that eb hasn't been on since his post during the night... not on ffr nor aim, as far as I know).

[iggymatrixcounter]

That's nice and all for wilkin to post what would happen if I was the SK. But really there's no reason the wolves would hit me. First off it doesn't give any advantage to the wolves. It even hurts them because now, during the day, there are an odd amount of people which makes it harder to insta-lynch.

The wolves have a lot to gain from killing wilkin though, he becomes red and thus while there is still an odd amount of people, it is offset with the wolves being able to have another vote.

There would almost have to be one wolf left because if there were two then the wolves wouldn't have hit wilkin. Therefore having 6 people left. Insta lynch LD today, kill off another human, then instalynch another human, then win. The only thing is that all the wolves would have to have been on together to do this. If they tried to do it separately then there's a chance that the humans would catch on and insta-lynch them before the wolves could get their instalynch.

[talisman]

is eb ever going to get on? I don't want to have to make this decision without having talked to him.

[Kilgamayan]

I have to go now and I have no idea how long I'll be out. I could be out an hour, I could be out past midnight.

Unless Wilkin or iggy fesses up to getting smacked, I have absolutely no reason not to vote eb, so I'm putting my vote there just in case.

[talisman]

ps no one else vote eb unless I say so. Kilga can for obvious reasons.

[Wilkin]

eb - At first, I really wanted to vote him, because of the uncharacteristic activity consistent in the game. He started by calling people out as idiots for the first two days, then started contributing. I was thinking about the eb vs. Kilga situation at the end of 26, where eb made this huge post on the last day after being an LD for the entire game. As I started reading back through the thread, though, everything just seemed to build up on Kilga, posted below, and away from eb. He's been consistent with his activity since about Day 3, and actually helping out the team.

Kilga - Looking back at Kilga, though, I've noticed that he contributed about a notch more than LD in the beginning. Wasn't around at all, voted for Kefit and Tass, almost got a phantom when it came to Afro, started to pick up on activity, then voted Guido. All of his voting posts were single lined bandwagons, more or less. Posted the player list, commented on instas with phantoms, a huge post on the remaining suspects, another large post, justifies activity because the game's starting up. Nothing of too much substance after that.

After a lot of thinking, I'm going with Kilga. If you guys still think I've been turned, keep in mind that eb hasn't been on AIM or FFR to influence me either way. This vote is purely independent.

[Kilgamayan]

Back earlier than I thought I'd be. I don't have anywhere else to go tonight as far as I know.

[iggymatrixcounter]

kilga

I have not been able to find anything against either kilga or EB. Yea EB has been a pain but wolves don't rock the boat.

On the other hand what better strategy than to distant yourself by putting yourself right in the middle of a debate.

Both of them have posted and has been helpful. It should go without saying because no wolf would want to not help the humans. So I can't really go off usefulness.

EB has had a little more activity than kilga. But kilga is always inactive until end game. It's why he can survive so long.

I vote kilga only because if kilga isn't the wolf, then it will be easier for us to kill EB tomorrow without having to scramble too much. Either way it's a human win IMO. Just playing the odds with this one.

[talisman]

**** I just cracked my back and it felt awesome.

also I'm about to vote, because eb isn't going to get on and this coinflip situation is killing me. Also this game has gone on far too long, and I'm getting tired of it. Iggy definitely has a point in that it would be easier in the speed game to go after eb tomorrow... but I figure by that point it will be too late anyway.

Couple "reasons" for this vote:

-I'd rather lose to kilga than eb.
-The kills, especially of late, seem like they could easily have come from eb. I have this crazy theory floating around in the back of my head that eb was just so pissed at iggy and not caring about the game that he actually attacked him last night. Well maybe not.

So fish, this one's for you. eb

[lightdarkness]

eb

OMG VOTE

[blahblah18]

EB is dead... I have a present for you guys another night! come on picks, ready set go

[blahblah18]

TALISMAN is dead...
The game is still on...

You have until Tues at 11:59 PM

[Kilgamayan]

iggymatrixcounter

All the wolves are gone. Only the SK is left.

[iggymatrixcounter]

nice one kilga.

You don't even think that there is a SK until you are the last one to die.

I guess I was right yesterday. kilga for the win.

Still alive list because Blah has kind of neglected this (and story, too) -

Iggy
Kilga
LD
Mini
Wilkin

[lightdarkness]

Uhh, Talisman was telling me what to do

So uhh, tell me what to do plz.

[MilfeulleSakuraba]

Vote for iggy, he's the only reason the game isn't over yet.

[lightdarkness]

Iggy

[iggymatrixcounter]

Are you serious? I'm not the SK. There was no reason why I would be yesterday and all of a sudden kilga (the last wolf) says that I am and you guys go with it?

If you lynch kilga it's game over. If you lynch me, kilga will wolf mini and insta lynch LD and win the game. Lynching me means the humans lose and wolves win. If you kill kilga then it's over, wolves win. Also. even if I was the SK then I couldn't even win by tomorrow, so why even try to kill me today when there's the bigger risk of letting kilga win this?