TWG XCIV: Old Blood - Page 19

**Vendetta21** · 05-15-2013, 05:38 PM

Alright I guess I'll give you that. I want you to rationalize away the comments about webdevelopers and blue text though, because you initiated that conversation and then you decided it wasn't relevant.

To me it reeked of desperation, which is precisely why I pressed him so hard. I figured he was a wolf in a state of complete desperation, and if I made him feel like I knew his secret that he would explode at me, which he did. This is what garnered my confidence on the vote and why I still haven't moved it.

I found your defense of him to be reasonable, but I felt like it was deciding to rest a decision on weak evidence when strong evidence was available.

So tell me, did you geniunely believe that "Firefox" and "Web developer" shit? You were the one who called it into scrutiny. I don't believe it for a second.

**Vendetta21** · 05-15-2013, 06:01 PM

oh come on manti. i know you can write it off as logging off or doing something else but you were showing for like 15-20 minutes as viewing the thread before you disappeared.

this should be an easy question for you man, and how you anwser it is pretty critical for the degree to which i can put confidence in your disposition.

**freakysnots** · 05-15-2013, 06:03 PM

anyone with a version of firefox past the year 2008 will agree with me that it is a bit harsh to modkill someone especially when the vote count was done in blue. i'm not sure if it is a feature of v-bulletin specifically designed for firefox, or what the deal with chrome is, but i've been using chrome ever since i got a macbook from work.

when i copy paste text from others, the bbcode tags gets copied over. if kraut was doing a quick post of the vote count, it was unreasonable to modkill him, since I assure you that was the last thing on his mind at that time.

i defended him because it would be totally bullshit if a similar situation happened to me while I was on my old computer trying to post a quick vote count.

**freakysnots** · 05-15-2013, 06:06 PM

also if I am kraut's teammate, I would argue this issue privately and insist that the host made a mistake.

FoJaR · 05-15-2013, 06:16 PM

honestly i wish i had put "will give you a warning" in the rules, instead of modkill, but the post had already altered the course of the day voting wise so it was too late. also it's not my job to hold your hand if you dont read the rules.

**freakysnots** · 05-15-2013, 06:47 PM

so guys apparently i lead the lynch on kraut

James May · 05-15-2013, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freakysnots

anyone with a version of firefox past the year 2008 will agree with me that it is a bit harsh to modkill someone especially when the vote count was done in blue. i'm not sure if it is a feature of v-bulletin specifically designed for firefox, or what the deal with chrome is, but i've been using chrome ever since i got a macbook from work.

when i copy paste text from others, the bbcode tags gets copied over. if kraut was doing a quick post of the vote count, it was unreasonable to modkill him, since I assure you that was the last thing on his mind at that time.

i defended him because it would be totally bullshit if a similar situation happened to me while I was on my old computer trying to post a quick vote count.

I understand where you are coming from with this. It sucked that it had to happen to Kraut, I honestly didn't expect that to happen to him. And now that I see it now, it wouldn't make sense for you to be a wolf in the first place. So that clears you from my suspicions...for now.

Unvote: freakysnots

Vote: Zoshi

Zoshi, you're next. I am curious to know why so many people are on your tail. I only want to know your answer and not anybody else's answer for this question because I want to know if you are capable of defending yourself. If you are truly a green, then you have no problem with defending yourself.

FoJaR · 05-15-2013, 08:23 PM

VOTECOUNT: Day 2 (ends Friday 5PM EST)

zoshi (4): OWA, manti, viccica, james
freaky (2): V, zoshi
TPS (2): jrodd, freaky

3 votes from lynch

yet to vote: TPS, Gun, meno, syhto

**Vendetta21** · 05-15-2013, 08:33 PM

Also Manti your defense of kraut, which is weaker than my evidence on him, is something he said both after the web developer shit and after Fojar stated the mod kill. This would have been an absolutely natural time for a wolf to be asking themselves whether or not their partner would be card flipped, and given how had displayed himself to be an unfiltered fountain of his superego to assume that much prescience from him is a stretch.

Freaky you can't bury evidence against you by posting a lot and over explaining things. The evidence to indict you is there and I will keep resurfacing it as much as is necessary to satisfy the extremely short collective memory we have.

**freakysnots** · 05-15-2013, 08:43 PM

ok sure if that helps me not get wolfed. thanks

**freakysnots** · 05-15-2013, 08:46 PM

v you don't understand the fact that there is no evidence. so far in this game, it seems like to get someone lynched, someone would just need to sound like they have an idea of what they are talking about and get a bandwagon rolling.

**freakysnots** · 05-15-2013, 08:48 PM

you haven't said anything useful ever since you started this whole bullshit start of day. do you even have any thoughts on the game?

**Vendetta21** · 05-15-2013, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freakysnots

you haven't said anything useful ever since you started this whole bullshit start of day. do you even have any thoughts on the game?

So you're 20 years old, right? Tell me about your web development job.

**freakysnots** · 05-15-2013, 08:57 PM

jrodd can vouch for me.

**freakysnots** · 05-15-2013, 09:01 PM

but hes not here. i do dev work on sportsnet.ca, they were using a old cms before, now porting over to wordpress. i work with a small team within a bigger company to port the site over.

but you don't need to be a web dev to know that firefox behaves like that.

its about 35%/35% users split between chrome and firefox (i look at google analytics), but people who use chrome isn't even aware that browsers have significant compatibility issues with each other

thats why people bitch about internet explorer. it is the support for javascript and css

**j-rodd123** · 05-15-2013, 09:02 PM

yea that part is true, right from his fb page "Web developer at Rogers Digital Media"

i won't be here tomorrow until 7:30 pm since i have 3 classes and a 6 hour lab, so i'll lay out my thoughts in just a moment

Tps222 · 05-15-2013, 09:23 PM

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...FE&usp=sharing

Alright guys, just spent the last 2 hours constructing this post. I'm going to take the idiotic approach of SS'ng my word doc and uploading them as images in here, because I don't want to reformat all of it (I wish I could embed docs on FFR or that it would retain formatting).

I created a spreadsheet of all the players, went back to the beginning of the game, and read every post. Any post that I felt was significant or suspicious I noted. I copied the URL for the specific post, and inserted a hyperlink under each player's name. They are numbered, starting at 1 for each player.

The word doc/pictures of word doc corresponds to the numbers under each player. IE: Clicking #1 on under Manti will bring you to Manti's post that i'm referencing in my word doc. Each numbered hyperlink directly corresponds to the document numbering, which is my brief opinion on the post and it's function.

Here again is the link to the spreadsheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...FE&usp=sharing

Here are the incoming image/Word Doc. I'm sorry for this format, i'm just exhausted.

I'm going to vote JRodd for now based on my 5 linked posts/points.

**DarkManticoreX2** · 05-15-2013, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

Also Manti your defense of kraut, which is weaker than my evidence on him, is something he said both after the web developer shit and after Fojar stated the mod kill. This would have been an absolutely natural time for a wolf to be asking themselves whether or not their partner would be card flipped, and given how had displayed himself to be an unfiltered fountain of his superego to assume that much prescience from him is a stretch.

I am allowed to change my opinion on things, It's how the game works. I'll asume you mean my defense of Freaky.

I highly doubt freaky would have made a public stink about the whole situation if he was a wolf. With Kraut's death uncertain he would not have publicly stated the "Hey I don't like this vote switch" He would have kept his trap shut.

The web developer stuff is extraneous.

**j-rodd123** · 05-15-2013, 09:26 PM

before i finish reading ur post, the list was my entrance made before most people even posted as a joke, how can you use that as a basis for anything :\

Tps222 · 05-15-2013, 09:38 PM

Quote:

the list was my entrance made before most people even posted as a joke,

What does that mean? Am I reading it wrong? I have no idea what you're saying here.

05-15-2013, 05:38 PM	#361
Vendetta21 Sectional Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Seattle Age: 35 Posts: 2,745	Re: TWG XCIV: Old Blood Alright I guess I'll give you that. I want you to rationalize away the comments about webdevelopers and blue text though, because you initiated that conversation and then you decided it wasn't relevant. To me it reeked of desperation, which is precisely why I pressed him so hard. I figured he was a wolf in a state of complete desperation, and if I made him feel like I knew his secret that he would explode at me, which he did. This is what garnered my confidence on the vote and why I still haven't moved it. I found your defense of him to be reasonable, but I felt like it was deciding to rest a decision on weak evidence when strong evidence was available. So tell me, did you geniunely believe that "Firefox" and "Web developer" shit? You were the one who called it into scrutiny. I don't believe it for a second.

05-15-2013, 06:01 PM	#362
Vendetta21 Sectional Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Seattle Age: 35 Posts: 2,745	Re: TWG XCIV: Old Blood oh come on manti. i know you can write it off as logging off or doing something else but you were showing for like 15-20 minutes as viewing the thread before you disappeared. this should be an easy question for you man, and how you anwser it is pretty critical for the degree to which i can put confidence in your disposition.

05-15-2013, 06:03 PM	#363
freakysnots 八一 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Xinjiang, PRC Age: 31 Posts: 2,904	Re: TWG XCIV: Old Blood anyone with a version of firefox past the year 2008 will agree with me that it is a bit harsh to modkill someone especially when the vote count was done in blue. i'm not sure if it is a feature of v-bulletin specifically designed for firefox, or what the deal with chrome is, but i've been using chrome ever since i got a macbook from work. when i copy paste text from others, the bbcode tags gets copied over. if kraut was doing a quick post of the vote count, it was unreasonable to modkill him, since I assure you that was the last thing on his mind at that time. i defended him because it would be totally bullshit if a similar situation happened to me while I was on my old computer trying to post a quick vote count. __________________

05-15-2013, 06:06 PM	#364
freakysnots 八一 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Xinjiang, PRC Age: 31 Posts: 2,904	Re: TWG XCIV: Old Blood also if I am kraut's teammate, I would argue this issue privately and insist that the host made a mistake. __________________

05-15-2013, 06:16 PM	#365
FoJaR The Worst Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: space ghost is dead to me Posts: 2,816	Re: TWG XCIV: Old Blood honestly i wish i had put "will give you a warning" in the rules, instead of modkill, but the post had already altered the course of the day voting wise so it was too late. also it's not my job to hold your hand if you dont read the rules. __________________

05-15-2013, 06:47 PM	#366
freakysnots 八一 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Xinjiang, PRC Age: 31 Posts: 2,904	Re: TWG XCIV: Old Blood so guys apparently i lead the lynch on kraut __________________

05-15-2013, 08:23 PM	#368
FoJaR The Worst Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: space ghost is dead to me Posts: 2,816	Re: TWG XCIV: Old Blood VOTECOUNT: Day 2 (ends Friday 5PM EST) zoshi (4): OWA, manti, viccica, james freaky (2): V, zoshi TPS (2): jrodd, freaky 3 votes from lynch yet to vote: TPS, Gun, meno, syhto __________________ Last edited by FoJaR; 05-15-2013 at 08:34 PM..

05-15-2013, 08:33 PM	#369
Vendetta21 Sectional Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Seattle Age: 35 Posts: 2,745	Re: TWG XCIV: Old Blood Also Manti your defense of kraut, which is weaker than my evidence on him, is something he said both after the web developer shit and after Fojar stated the mod kill. This would have been an absolutely natural time for a wolf to be asking themselves whether or not their partner would be card flipped, and given how had displayed himself to be an unfiltered fountain of his superego to assume that much prescience from him is a stretch. Freaky you can't bury evidence against you by posting a lot and over explaining things. The evidence to indict you is there and I will keep resurfacing it as much as is necessary to satisfy the extremely short collective memory we have.

05-15-2013, 08:43 PM	#370
freakysnots 八一 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Xinjiang, PRC Age: 31 Posts: 2,904	Re: TWG XCIV: Old Blood ok sure if that helps me not get wolfed. thanks __________________

05-15-2013, 08:46 PM	#371
freakysnots 八一 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Xinjiang, PRC Age: 31 Posts: 2,904	Re: TWG XCIV: Old Blood v you don't understand the fact that there is no evidence. so far in this game, it seems like to get someone lynched, someone would just need to sound like they have an idea of what they are talking about and get a bandwagon rolling. __________________

05-15-2013, 08:48 PM	#372
freakysnots 八一 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Xinjiang, PRC Age: 31 Posts: 2,904	Re: TWG XCIV: Old Blood you haven't said anything useful ever since you started this whole bullshit start of day. do you even have any thoughts on the game? __________________

05-15-2013, 08:57 PM	#374
freakysnots 八一 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Xinjiang, PRC Age: 31 Posts: 2,904	Re: TWG XCIV: Old Blood jrodd can vouch for me. __________________

05-15-2013, 09:01 PM	#375
freakysnots 八一 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Xinjiang, PRC Age: 31 Posts: 2,904	Re: TWG XCIV: Old Blood but hes not here. i do dev work on sportsnet.ca, they were using a old cms before, now porting over to wordpress. i work with a small team within a bigger company to port the site over. but you don't need to be a web dev to know that firefox behaves like that. its about 35%/35% users split between chrome and firefox (i look at google analytics), but people who use chrome isn't even aware that browsers have significant compatibility issues with each other thats why people bitch about internet explorer. it is the support for javascript and css __________________

05-15-2013, 09:23 PM	#377
Tps222 FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Age: 33 Posts: 6,167	Re: TWG XCIV: Old Blood https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...FE&usp=sharing Alright guys, just spent the last 2 hours constructing this post. I'm going to take the idiotic approach of SS'ng my word doc and uploading them as images in here, because I don't want to reformat all of it (I wish I could embed docs on FFR or that it would retain formatting). I created a spreadsheet of all the players, went back to the beginning of the game, and read every post. Any post that I felt was significant or suspicious I noted. I copied the URL for the specific post, and inserted a hyperlink under each player's name. They are numbered, starting at 1 for each player. The word doc/pictures of word doc corresponds to the numbers under each player. IE: Clicking #1 on under Manti will bring you to Manti's post that i'm referencing in my word doc. Each numbered hyperlink directly corresponds to the document numbering, which is my brief opinion on the post and it's function. Here again is the link to the spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...FE&usp=sharing Here are the incoming image/Word Doc. I'm sorry for this format, i'm just exhausted. I'm going to vote JRodd for now based on my 5 linked posts/points.

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