TWG CXLIII: SK Loses Again Game Thread

[choof]

xel

[choof]

xel's at 3, insta is at 6?
we won't have a rush

[Red Blaster]

Originally Posted by choof

how do you feel about xel

Idk he's not really done much to allow me to form an opinion, but my gut is still telling me there's something off about him this game.
We had that little exchange earlier in the day when he posted a lot of "let's be friends" stuff which considering how we are usually somewhat at each other's throats, so I'm not really sure how to feel about that.

[Red Blaster]

Originally Posted by choof

xel's at 3, insta is at 6?
we won't have a rush

Does that imply you think there's a wolf already among the wagon?
Or that we're not in a 3 wolf world?

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

Does that imply you think there's a wolf already among the wagon?
Or that we're not in a 3 wolf world?

or that xel is a wolf

[Red Blaster]

True.

[Red Blaster]

Originally Posted by MrPopadopalis25

This is very neutral. If you had to bet it all, one or the other, no grey in between, which would you say xel is?

Idk Xel was at least effort posting in D0, which is predominantly where my earlier null town read developed from, but since then he's reverted to typical Xel gif posts and just generally hasn't contributed much of anything. With that in mind he is reading scummier to me now.

[Red Blaster]

That said though, TWG is never so clear cut this person is scum or human.
We've all seen plenty of humans make really scummy plays and vice versa, so it's hard to be so night and day about who is what.

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

I think I follow you here

With this in mind consider why I think xel is mega suspicious

[Vendetta21]

Originally Posted by MrPopadopalis25

Ten bucks says if we insta V right now he's scum.

I get where this is coming from, i suppose. What I will say in my defense is that I'm legitimately moving to california this month and also I've spent a lot of time playing Fallout 4 which I know is something I tried to gotcha Charu on, but I also didn't expect to actually be using that as an excuse myself.

I work best in one on one showdown scenarios where I get someone into a session where I grill them and each time I've tried to start doing that it hasn't worked out, i.e. putting the other person in a position where they feel pressure to respond and I haven't made anyone feel pressure. I've been skimming this game a lot (there's a ton of posts) and mostly trying to find anomalies in a mass of words. From my most recent skim I still don't like charu and I don't like RB, but xelnya seems fine to me.

I will give an effort in the next little while to try to clear my name.

[rzr]

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

Idk he's not really done much to allow me to form an opinion, but my gut is still telling me there's something off about him this game.
We had that little exchange earlier in the day when he posted a lot of "let's be friends" stuff which considering how we are usually somewhat at each other's throats, so I'm not really sure how to feel about that.

Without attacking you, do you see why this might incriminate you?
I mean granted, I would rather see a wolf RB bus a wolf Xel than the other way around, if that makes sense

[rzr]

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

I get where this is coming from, i suppose. What I will say in my defense is that I'm legitimately moving to california this month and also I've spent a lot of time playing Fallout 4 which I know is something I tried to gotcha Charu on, but I also didn't expect to actually be using that as an excuse myself.

I work best in one on one showdown scenarios where I get someone into a session where I grill them and each time I've tried to start doing that it hasn't worked out, i.e. putting the other person in a position where they feel pressure to respond and I haven't made anyone feel pressure. I've been skimming this game a lot (there's a ton of posts) and mostly trying to find anomalies in a mass of words. From my most recent skim I still don't like charu and I don't like RB, but xelnya seems fine to me.

I will give an effort in the next little while to try to clear my name.

I take this in 2 different ways:
It's either a cheesy attempt at pushing off his lynch until he knows he can invest more time into proving his humanity, and only posts this because he knows he was called for these exact reasons
or 2. he's just busy, and I get that, plus remember when I said he had posted outside of TWG, well that was about his move to Cali lol. So that's fair.

I don't think a V lynch is worth much today, I'd rather see Red Blaster's thoughts on V and what he's said here.

Also, why the fuck did Zenith/rex seem to get a pass? I had a bunch of shit to say to Zenith that I can't now, but I don't like Rex coming in and going out so nonchaulantly

[Vendetta21]

so I honestly think rex has been this most neutral. I don't feel he has made enough significant contributions other than piggybacking off the beliefs of zenith's slot and I don't feel like he has given the game fresh eyes in any way. He has been virtually ignored, and that has worked for him. He voted exactly along the same lines as zenith which signals maintaining the same strategy more than it does signaling unique thought and approaching this game with a desire to solve it.

As a wolf, neutrality is comfortable because it buys you time. He looks like he is acting in a way that is all about buying time.

rex

[rzr]

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

Does that imply you think there's a wolf already among the wagon?
Or that we're not in a 3 wolf world?

Also, I'm probably an idiot, but in looking at the setup again, wouldn't they have to role TTTTT for there to only be 2 wolves? And in that case, there would only be a good and a godfather? (sk is different so I exclude)
Maybe I really don't understand this lol sorry, I'm looking at the setup trying to decide if there could be 2 wolves and I DONT THINK SO
But that's just me

[rzr]

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

so I honestly think rex has been this most neutral. I don't feel he has made enough significant contributions other than piggybacking off the beliefs of zenith's slot and I don't feel like he has given the game fresh eyes in any way. He has been virtually ignored, and that has worked for him. He voted exactly along the same lines as zenith which signals maintaining the same strategy more than it does signaling unique thought and approaching this game with a desire to solve it.

As a wolf, neutrality is comfortable because it buys you time. He looks like he is acting in a way that is all about buying time.

rex

Neutrality, imo, is a giveaway. What does a human have to lose from being aggressive, besides their life? They can still win by giving their life up to make a point, like Yosh. What's the point in being neutral if we gain more info from being hostile? My point I guess, is did you explore the side that Z might have gotten info overnight and that info was passed to Rex obviously. If anything, based on Z and Rex targetting you, and assuming Z was a PR with info, him not completely claiming and saying he seered you or something would make me think, if he did seer you, he seered you purple.

Is your only beef with Rex that he remains neutral and that he stayed with his predecessor voted for you? Or does something about Zenith/Rex [i]actually/I] make you think he's a wolf

[rzr]

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

Idk Xel was at least effort posting in D0, which is predominantly where my earlier null town read developed from, but since then he's reverted to typical Xel gif posts and just generally hasn't contributed much of anything. With that in mind he is reading scummier to me now.

I thought that was more resonant of his town game?

[Vendetta21]

Originally Posted by rzr

Neutrality, imo, is a giveaway. What does a human have to lose from being aggressive, besides their life? They can still win by giving their life up to make a point, like Yosh. What's the point in being neutral if we gain more info from being hostile? My point I guess, is did you explore the side that Z might have gotten info overnight and that info was passed to Rex obviously. If anything, based on Z and Rex targetting you, and assuming Z was a PR with info, him not completely claiming and saying he seered you or something would make me think, if he did seer you, he seered you purple.

Is your only beef with Rex that he remains neutral and that he stayed with his predecessor voted for you? Or does something about Zenith/Rex [i]actually/I] make you think he's a wolf

No I'm making surface judgments I am not exploring contingencies to two or three degrees what I said is exactly what I meant

[Red Blaster]

Originally Posted by rzr

I take this in 2 different ways:
It's either a cheesy attempt at pushing off his lynch until he knows he can invest more time into proving his humanity, and only posts this because he knows he was called for these exact reasons
or 2. he's just busy, and I get that, plus remember when I said he had posted outside of TWG, well that was about his move to Cali lol. So that's fair.

I don't think a V lynch is worth much today, I'd rather see Red Blaster's thoughts on V and what he's said here.

Also, why the fuck did Zenith/rex seem to get a pass? I had a bunch of shit to say to Zenith that I can't now, but I don't like Rex coming in and going out so nonchaulantly

I've touched on V in that personally I'd be pissed if I was legitimately busy and got lynched for it so I can't fault him there. I would have to assume though he knew prior to signing up that both his move and fallout 4 were already pre-planned things (moving dates are usually set in advance and game release dates are known months in advance) so yeah..there's that.
I honestly wouldn't mind keeping him around or seeing him go, but the latter would require some convincing.

On Zenith/Rex, it's hard to just roll over the original suspicions onto the replacement as there's really no way Rex can defend Zenith's actions. That said I think he's someone we need to hear a ton from today and so far we just aren't. Honestly I think the best course would be to suggest him for some sort of night investigation if Zenith wasn't already checked. All of this assumes of course that we have investigatory roles.

I also think he's Indonesian so there might be a language barrier or something..his english definitely seems a little broken

[AragakiAyase]

it was looking so clear last night who we should lynch today, and now it's looking less clear. on the neutrality note I think red blaster fits the bill best

[YoshL]

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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 3 -- XelNya -- roundbox (41), DaBackpack (104), choof (35)
• 2 -- Red Blaster -- Charu (116), AragakiAyase (99)
• 2 -- Vendetta21 -- MrPopadopalis25 (52), Rex96 (9)
• 1 -- choof -- rzr (75)
• 1 -- Rex96 -- Vendetta21 (26)
• 2 -- not voting -- Red Blaster (82), XelNya (53)