08-4-2019, 01:09 PM | #81 |
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Re: D8 Deb8
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08-4-2019, 01:11 PM | #82 |
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Re: D8 Deb8
I'm not sure I really get why people are concerned about the content for a D8 this tournament. If they're in D7 they're getting these files anyway. Splitting D8 off just gives a chance for other people to take a top place in D7 that otherwise would have 0 shot at it because the skill curve is pretty large.
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08-4-2019, 01:15 PM | #83 | |
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If there's no content for them yet (like files not judged yet or w/e), then yes the argument is 100% about giving a chance to low-mid D7, which personally idc (for the record I might join, not sure tho). |
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08-4-2019, 01:19 PM | #84 | |
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08-4-2019, 01:25 PM | #85 |
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I figured. That'll change in the near-ish future but for now I suppose the choice is up to you to split D7 or not; in any case the line will be semi-arbitrary.
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08-4-2019, 01:47 PM | #86 |
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Re: D8 Deb8
secretly didnt want d8 so i wouldnt have to reach it
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08-4-2019, 02:13 PM | #87 |
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Re: D8 Deb8
i'll start this by saying this is purely anecdotal but i have spent about 2 out of my 2.5 or so years of actively playing in mid-high d7 range, so in my opinion if i was still at low d7 i wouldnt want to compete against the highest ranked players like etienne or nate because they are just lightyears ahead of where low d7 is. they are still both at least like 2 years of playing ahead of where i am now (i can only definitively point to like 1 or maybe 2 scores i have on sm as d8) but i still feel like i have a chance to come out on top in this tournament.
then again, i dont believe it would be impossible to reach top 8 in the tournament as low d7, but top 5 is probably impossible. i agree with others in the thread who say that there arent enough files at a high level to officially have an 8th division, but for the tournament i like it. i think the decision lies in the lower d7 players if they want to compete against the people currently set in d8 or not. worm tax
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08-4-2019, 02:13 PM | #88 |
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ok so my question is that if D8 becomes a thing, how does it affect D1-7? do the level requirements for those change as well? or is D7 just going to be like a 5 level range?
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I'm very surprised this is even a debate.
The difference between some of the best players in the world and the lowest D7 player is so monumental that it would be silly to include them in the same bracket. Yes, there's going to be some difference between the best and worst player in divisions, but not in the way that older tournaments brought with D7.
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08-4-2019, 02:34 PM | #90 |
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Doesn't matter much because divisions are pretty arbitrary, but even if D8 was like 103 to 106 that 4 levels range is like harder to go through than 1 to 103 so lol
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08-4-2019, 03:18 PM | #91 |
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My original post wasn't really about the fact D8 should or not be a thing but anyway.
Following the original motivation for divisions existing, even D7 in the past tournaments was inadequate. But the idea that anyone joining a sport/e-sport tournament has or should have a real shot at 1st place is already very If the files are hard enough, competition still exists to get past the cutoff of whatever rounds people in your skill bracket risk being eliminated. This is also why I mentioned extending prizes in the D7 range. Despite not being able to realistically compete with the top of the top, you would still have motivation to put effort in the tournament. And I won't even get into the fact that having identical prizes for lower divisions is already a charity of sorts. And this is coming from someone who should be placed at the very low end of D7. |
08-4-2019, 04:06 PM | #92 |
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It honestly feels weird to make what I would consider a serious change to the structure so close to a tournament after sign ups have started, but if D7 likes the split and it's as easy as a few clicks to do then do it and worry about working everything else out afterwards
Honestly, just having a D8 where the obvious players are in and then making the cutoff obtaining like 8/10 of the AAAs they have in level 106+s or whatever would probably do in the sense that we're recognizing these players as better then the rest of D7, and anyone getting into D8 needs to just have the scores we see from them now. Cut and dry, easily defined, doneski. ~ I'm almost tempted to suggest we should redefined every division and make D1- D10, but that's something to do well after the tournament. I get that with prizes and rewards already in place that's unappealing but when IIDX outgrew it's rating system it got a better system so that should be considered. But again, after this tournament. |
08-4-2019, 04:17 PM | #93 |
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Why 1-10, that just seems like you want "nice numbers" no ??? I mean I like my volume to be at multiples of 5 but really what other arguments would you have for 1-10 ? I'm confused
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08-4-2019, 04:23 PM | #94 |
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1-10 would kind of set the playerbase thin given current activity imho.
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08-4-2019, 05:03 PM | #95 |
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Re: D8 Deb8
if it exists they should have their own set of songs and there should be at least 15 people.
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08-4-2019, 05:19 PM | #97 |
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Re: D8 Deb8
do we even have enough songs to have a d8 in the OT? lol
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08-4-2019, 05:20 PM | #98 |
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Maybe I'm absofuckinglutely losing my marbles but I'm almost positive what I'm doing right now is exactly how I did D7 in the 8th official.......
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08-4-2019, 05:28 PM | #99 |
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As for the color, honestly I've never really put any thought into it but it just feels like an irrelevant quirk of being good and noteworthy on the site which TBH at that skill, everyone likely knows who you are anyways. Both of these in my book are nonproblems, or ones that have better solutions. But restructuring to stay within 7 divisions sounds better anyways. |
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