TWG CLXV - The Wine In Front Of Me - Game Thread

[Gradiant]

i'm actually not joking around with that comment. Kinda dumb to be acting all high and mighty accusing and insulting other users of sheeping and shit when you're doing the same stuff

[Litodude]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

Why do you think that wolves are being active as opposed to being quiet, that was something I remember from playing lTWG with you; you thought wolves were quiet a lot of the time

i don't, i phrased it on the bottom of my post: inconsequential banter between players to appear active is wolfy, but also the norm, and generates threads that create a substantial amount of noise (see: this thread). with the inability of more casual players to sift through all of the posts, it may lead to town just not wanting to play without effort.

so i skip most of it and just post anyway.

with that said, traditional strategy as a wolf without mw in a semi-mystery game would be to hide wolves as much as possible unless the wolves are experienced and can defend themselves.

as i mentioned, previous out-of-game alliances like charu/yoshl/gradient, gradient/you, tokzic/raeko and inside jokes leads to massive amounts of shit posts that provide nothing qualitatively. as such, between the ranks of active posters (thanks AA for posting how many posts people have contributed), i picked my highest read (you), make an assumption that another wolf could be an active player bussing you (charu/yoshl/choof), and the last wolf being someone who is UTR

[Gradiant]

it makes it hard to take you seriously at all

[Charu]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

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Hee hee hee

Well it's essentially true. You apologizing, you saying you're "objectively" the best vote. It looks like you're trying to play up to the angry crowd of players.

Least how it looks like on my own end. Sheeping or not.

You following the words of others is especially suspect, bucko.

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by Gradiant

doing the same stuff

point unclear.

if you read the posts in order youll see that charu was the one who first had a problem with me "sheeping"

i tried to explain that i wasnt and he disagreed. thats fine hes intitled to his opinion

then he presents a self-proclaimed original viewpoint thats also a blatant sheep, so i gave into the temptation to call him out for it even after i said i wouldnt get into that before.

i dont know how i feel about you misconstruing everything im doing/saying and having to explain it afterwards. like id ignore it if i thought you wouldnt use it later on to try to get me killed, but i learned from my first game with you and i know thats exactly what youll do

[roundbox]

the only problem that arises with these big posts is I miss what's going on actively in the thread

damn

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by Charu

Hee hee hee

Well it's essentially true. You apologizing, you saying you're "objectively" the best vote. It looks like you're trying to play up to the angry crowd of players.

Least how it looks like on my own end. Sheeping or not.

You following the words of others is especially suspect, bucko.

thats besides the point of what i had a problem with.

i think my point against you is true too, didnt stop you from completely discrediting it because i was "sheeping roundbox"

[Litodude]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

lito can you shortlist your problems with me or something I straight up don't understand like 3 of what I think are points where you're calling me scummy

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=529

lying, deceitful

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=532
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=533

yes


whenever i've read discussion between you and $player it's always been neutral and i don't trust that

[roundbox]

8. litodude

posts regarding setup should be considered null
yes I understand that there was a pregame phase that wolves would have discussed this and people could attempt to give him an excuse of
"hey he's talking about roles and stuff, and wolves have already talked about it, so the fact he's talking about it now must mean he has yet to think of the setup, therefore he is not a wolf"

I'll leave it at that

Originally Posted by Litodude

i am on post 9 but wanted to say now haku is a human there's no way he would risk that much spotlight with a cop (i'm assuming exists see my post), and cardflipping.

also haku is zoom last month was way too nervous to pull this shit off i'm pretty sure he would die of stress

I like this read
however part of me wants to say that this HARD defense paints them as partners in the event one is a wolf

Originally Posted by Litodude

idk if u are able to follow my line of thinking i wanna say freezin and haku are most human, i feel like expanding further right now would only provide a disservice for various reasons (mainly, it'll be tumultuous) but i will explain my rationale before eod

don't withhold information
fuckin' cockblock
this is bad and I hope you explained this since I see you are posting now

Originally Posted by Litodude

lol seriously posts like these are like....

and then you go and be active??

lol...

he was only active for a few hours br0

Originally Posted by Litodude

shut up

it's a legitimate question
come on


also I'm pretty sure most everyone knew about the IC mechanic
at least people who have played within the last 6 months in a game with an IC
you're using WAYYYYYYYY too much unconfirmed logic to clear freezin
we have no way of confirming this unless freezin was IC and outed as IC using their power
this banks way too much on speculation and nothing about reads

also why is freezin a PR? I think I missed this


I feel like your reads are fine, the read on gradiant specifically stands out as quality
I also agree with your assessment of yoshl/sunfan's read on choof being a bit hasty

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VERDICT:
just above null, as I don't think sunfan is particularly in scumville just yet but I see where your thoughts are coming from and they don't sound overly manufactured
I don't agree with your assessment about the PRs and banking heavily on that logic either. PR hunting is also generally bad too so ???

you'll probably have a lot of work to do to get a lynch going on sunfan though

[FreezinIce]

should i discredit and ignore your point because you copied it from sunfan?

doesnt make alot of sense does it?

so why would you do the same thing to me???

[Gradiant]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

point unclear.

if you read the posts in order youll see that charu was the one who first had a problem with me "sheeping"

i tried to explain that i wasnt and he disagreed. thats fine hes intitled to his opinion

then he presents a self-proclaimed original viewpoint thats also a blatant sheep, so i gave into the temptation to call him out for it even after i said i wouldnt get into that before.

i dont know how i feel about you misconstruing everything im doing/saying and having to explain it afterwards. like id ignore it if i thought you wouldnt use it later on to try to get me killed, but i learned from my first game with you and i know thats exactly what youll do

You're complaining about charu not having original thoughts while using unoriginal thoughts to back it up. I fail to see how i'm misconstruing anything here. Once again, you aren't looking at posts and seeing why others might think that based on what you're doing, you're just saying that i'm against you just because

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by roundbox

haku, post your reads on each player in the thread

Town / wouldn't lynch today (at this point in time at least)

Gradiant (easy to understand where he's coming from/mindmelding etc.)
choof (having reserves based on how people are reading him, but more town than not)
roundbox (you're passing for today for appropriate calls imo)

Slight town lean

YoshL (Based on interactions with me) (yeah, I town read someone who's holding a vote on me.)

Null

Charu (nervous?)
Sunfan (just me not knowing where to place him)

inDheart (Your iso feels like you're not here, but you did this before as town so fml)

FreezinIce (I'm having minor issues with you because you have a ton of one liners and I hope you post bigger posts so I can get a better feel of your headspace)
litodude (what are you doing)

Post Count too low

Tokzic
LightKnight
Mellonxcollie


My reads aren't top quality reads imo, but at least it's something.

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by Gradiant

You're complaining about charu not having original thoughts while using unoriginal thoughts to back it up. I fail to see how i'm misconstruing anything here. Once again, you aren't looking at posts and seeing why others might think that based on what you're doing, you're just saying that i'm against you just because

im LEGITIMATELY trying to understand what you're saying and what you have a problem with but its fucking eluding me so im going to break it down to the simplest pieces and try to understand.

You're complaining about charu not having original thoughts while using unoriginal thoughts to back it up.

first part is true. I am indeed complaining about charu having not original thoughts. 2nd part is unclear and needs clarification. What unoriginal thoughts am i using to back it up?? i broke down the conversation in my previous post. the only thing motivating me to respond to him in kind is the sense of irony that comes from the entire exchange.

im not saying you're against me. im saying your not understanding me and im not understanding you and its causing headaches

[Charu]

What am I nervous about, Haku?

[FreezinIce]

maybe im just bogging myself down in details and should just ignore this shit

[Charu]

Did my lvl 8 magic missile hit?

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by Charu

What am I nervous about, Haku?

It's more of a general feel. I'll dig some posts if you want.

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by Charu

Hee hee hee

Well it's essentially true. You apologizing, you saying you're "objectively" the best vote. It looks like you're trying to play up to the angry crowd of players.

Least how it looks like on my own end. Sheeping or not.

You following the words of others is especially suspect, bucko.

theres no angle that benefits me when i do this.

except as a statement of a fact that you were wrong in your assertation that haku was objectively the best lynch.

i feel like just leaving my vote on you all day for completely slipping around and twisting everything i have to say

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by Charu

Did my lvl 8 magic missile hit?

nah your just giving off the vibe of someone whos extremely opportunistic

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

It's more of a general feel. I'll dig some posts if you want.

Please do!