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10-1-2016, 04:46 PM | #62 | |
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trump is a fucking moron. full stop. hillary suffers from an excess of hubris. the email scandal is a real thing. a normal person may not have gone to jail either, but they definitely would have lost their security clearance. it's not like she did something purposefully harmful, but what she did was stupid, reckless, and her response shows that she clearly thinks that she is above the law. she did finally apologize during the debate, which was a long time coming. i've listened to some of the congressional hearings with the IT people that worked for her, and you can tell that republicans are trying to trump things up (they always focus on the fact that she had her old phones destroyed with a hammer, which is silly of them since there are better ways to make her look bad) but there are some serious problems with how she handled this. that much is clear. gary johnson is a libertarian, which means i agree with him on about half of everything. his policy on global warming is definitely one of the things that i dont agree with, but he's not a science denier which means that he meets my minimum requirements. also he seems like a person who could be reasoned with. he doesnt have any huge skeletons in his closet, and i think that republicans would be more likely to come to compromises with him than they would with hillary because they hate hillary. it's clear that hillary is more interested in doing what's best for herself, and not what's best for the party or the country. too much hubris by half. i'm obviously going to vote for her because i'm a pragmatist, but i'm not terribly happy about it.
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10-1-2016, 04:49 PM | #63 |
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okay lets remember that it wasn't name a world leader, it's name a world leader he respects. it's a much shorter list.
edit: at least it is for me.
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10-2-2016, 12:32 AM | #64 |
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My experience is libertarians is generally by way of "We agree pretty well on what the problems are and then have WILDLY divergent ideas about how to actually fix them"
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10-2-2016, 10:04 AM | #65 |
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yeah but in general i think they are more reasonable than republicans and definitely more reasonable than tea party because there's less "GOD SAYS X" going on.
like i think the difference between me and libertarians is where the line should be, not that there should be a line at all, and that's a discussion that i'm willing to have.
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10-2-2016, 10:06 AM | #66 | |
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republicans and dems are each going to agree with about half of what he believes in, and disagree with the other half.
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10-2-2016, 10:45 AM | #67 | |
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he had to pick a world leader he respects, which narrows the set he can pick from, because he also needs to know why. the impression that gives me is that most foreign leaders aren't quite radical enough for his tastes, or something. but unlike syria where it looked like his mind was just doing some kind of cache miss, having exactly zero leaders off the top of your head and needing your running mate to bail you out is baaaad i've been secretly hoping that republicans flock to johnson because of the parts they'd tend to agree with. most of the bernie bros i know have not been people who are taking to johnson, and will likely vote for hillary now, though i have one friend in particular who thinks it might not matter either way because trump might not be allowed to touch things in a trump presidency. still unwilling to chance that myself, though. |
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I live in Alabama so my vote doesn't mean anything :^(
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the house oversight committee has access to any evidence from a criminal investigation being done by the justice department. republicans run the house. hillary knew that anything that she turned over to the justice department (ie her server) would be seen by republicans in the house. i'm sure that the republicans on the house didnt actually care that much about the emails she sent as secretary of state. they knew that she wouldnt send any classified information through email. they were probably far more interested in the rest of the things that went through that server. all of the personal and political things. instead of living with her mistake, obeying the law, and handing over her server as it was to the justice department, she lawyered up (perfectly fine) wiped her servers (whoopsie) and proceeded to make light of the whole situation. is it fair that house republicans would be able to go through her dirty laundry? not really, but it was her mistake that opened that door, and instead of obeying the law and doing the right thing and withdrawing, she decided that her personal ambitions were worth the things that she would have to do to cover up the incident. i very much doubt that she hid any official emails from the justice department, but by choosing which emails to provide them with, she broke the law. period. she decided that protecting her political ambitions was more important than obeying the law. period. Quote:
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I'll take the brazen dumbass over the compulsive liar any day.
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Yea cuz trump isn't a liar....
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10-3-2016, 09:51 AM | #73 |
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Hillary isn't a compulsive liar, she's a self serving liar.
trump is a compulsive liar. he lies about almost everything for apparently no reason.constantly.
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Woops you just defined every politician
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10-3-2016, 04:54 PM | #75 |
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most politicians are self serving liars. trump is the only compulsive one i can think of.
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George bush
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10-4-2016, 08:07 PM | #77 | |
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Anybody watching the Vice President debates? I figure this is a good thread for that discussion as well.
Edit: This moderator has had very little control. Trying to cover nine topic in an hour and a half is never going to work when the Presidential debate didn't even cover five. iirc. Edit2: I try to spend a little time on my knees everyday lel -o24
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libertarians might sugarcoat it as a capitalist ideal but man is it ever a shitty platform sometimes. I honestly agree with about 60% of Hillary's platform despite her crowdsurfing career of politics and catering to a crowd and blatant corruption. Can't say Bernie didn't have a bit of an effect. This last debate basically proved that Trump's farce is what got him this far and I don't think it's gonna change much. Presidential debates swing voters' decisions for such a low percentage of total ballots anyways it's -completely- useless lmao
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