jTWG LXXII: The AniMatrix6 - Game Thread

[Redsludge]

Okay I'll stick with my claim cuz I am a 1-Shot Bulletproof Townie.

When I claimed I was actually hoping I could draw a wolf kill to me and narrow down what sort of setup we are in. I'm not fishing for roles, I don't even understand how that is possible in a game where you can't have any communication outside of the thread. The wolves will have to target me at some point, they might as well get it out of the way.

I also wanted to get some discussion going about the game!

[Vendetta21]

yeah im not following how you thought claiming would result in those things in any clear way whatsoever, so you're kind of a fucking idiot and you should refrain from acting with confidence and trusting your first impressions, which being out in the open affords you a lot

[_Zenith_]

Yo V, cool it

Prawn! that sucks that you cannot really participate due to not having time and being at a convention

I believe my vote is still on Vendetta from last night iirc

[_Zenith_]

After further investigation from the posts made after I went to sleep I honestly still think it's undetermined whether or not SBG is or is not the 1-shot townie

I wouldn't say he's a wolf just because of the wording of his posts; but how he suddenly changed in and out of saying he was one, to not, to one again.

yer definitely suspicious though SBG

RedSludge

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by Redsludge

From looking at the role list, it seemed like the best option to pick which wouldn't get me wolfed N1.

further on my proof; if you really are the 1-shot townie, you would've not mentioned it due to the fact if you were wolfed N1 it wouldn't affect you besides losing 1-shot status.

[Charles Claythorne]

the periodic in periodic acid isnt pronounced like periodic

[dAnceguy117]

Zenith, there are a couple of things about Redsludge's most recent post which are, from my perspective, seemingly illogical. Would you care to dissect that post a bit and see if you come up with one or two of the same points of interest?

p-edit: ninja'd somewhat, but give it one more go, if you'd like.

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by Redsludge

Okay I'll stick with my claim cuz I am a 1-Shot Bulletproof Townie.

When I claimed I was actually hoping I could draw a wolf kill to me and narrow down what sort of setup we are in. I'm not fishing for roles, I don't even understand how that is possible in a game where you can't have any communication outside of the thread. The wolves will have to target me at some point, they might as well get it out of the way.

I also wanted to get some discussion going about the game!

Now that Dance mentioned it, it would've done you a lot better without saying anything if your intentions were to draw in a wolf.

Also I did see you mention something about asking a possible townie to protect you which makes you seem more of a wolf because you are specifically asking for protection after the claim that you're a 1-shot townie when technically you already protect yourself once.

[_Zenith_]

also you could still rolefish even if you really are a townie which just brings out the possible setup's that this game has and you brought it out in the publicity of the thread now

strong data point?

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

it's a weird thing to claim on day 1 tbh

okay the more I keep reading earlier the posts the more my mind is getting deeper into what was really said.

I know it's my first game but what V said is true; it's not only weird but suspicious to claim a role on Day 1

[dAnceguy117]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

Now that Dance mentioned it, it would've done you a lot better without saying anything if your intentions were to draw in a wolf.

Also I did see you mention something about asking a possible townie to protect you which makes you seem more of a wolf because you are specifically asking for protection after the claim that you're a 1-shot townie when technically you already protect yourself once.

There's another small detail or two that caught my eye, but I believe they can wait.

Redsludge is at L-2, I believe? (That's shorthand for "2 votes away from being lynched".) That's fine with me for now.

One thing to note for newer players: placing the vote which instalynches a player is a major move, and on this site is usually done with caution, or not done at all.

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by Redsludge

I am gonna go ahead and claim 1-Shot Bulletproof Townie

If there's a Jailkeeper then you should guard me in the night phase, it might give us an inkling into what type of setup we have here! If there's a Tracker well then, just do your thing and don't get lynched!

Proof #2

This was the first post

"I am gonna go ahead and claim role"

actually just in general this first post is just suspicious in itself

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by Charu

Charu -> Danceguy
Danceguy -> Vendetta
storn -> Charu
Danceguy -> Zenith
Zenith -> PrawnSkunk
choof -> Zenith
Zenith -> Choof
Danceguy -> UNVOTE
Zenith -> PrawnSkunk
storn -> Danceguy
reuben -> Charu
Zenith -> UNVOTE
Danceguy -> Charu
Vendetta -> Storn
Redsluge -> Charu
Zenith -> Charu
Choof -> UNVOTE
Zenith -> UNVOTE
Zenith -> Vendetta
Reuben -> UNVOTE
Redsludge -> Zenith
Vendetta -> Redsludge
Zenith -> Redsludge

Redsludge - XX
Danceguy - XX
Charu - X
Storn - X
Zenith - X

I'm afraid of my counting abilities guys, but I do believe that is the correct order of votes that has happened.

Wanted to keep the voting updated; I believe this is the current votes as of this post

[_Zenith_]

actually storn has no votes against now with V switching; also if reuben switched I think Charu also has no votes against now

then the list is accurate

[T-Force]

Many thanks for your personal vote counts and such. I'll be home from work around 4 PM server time (preferably earlier) and will do the counts and updates.

[choof]

Originally Posted by Redsludge

I am gonna go ahead and claim 1-Shot Bulletproof Townie

If there's a Jailkeeper then you should guard me in the night phase, it might give us an inkling into what type of setup we have here! If there's a Tracker well then, just do your thing and don't get lynched!

the fuck is wrong with you
I have some errands to run right now but this claim was is very detrimental to the town

sure, it makes you effectively invincible and clears a villager, but it narrows down the potential setups from 6 to 2, and the wolves now know to never target you at night

imo bulletproof is best played by breadcrumbing the wolves into targeting you

you'll never get to use your role now

[choof]

at this point I'm actually thinking zenith is a top candidate from all of the vote swapping and his reasonings have almost always been "omgus" or thinly vieled sheep votes

[dAnceguy117]

Originally Posted by choof

the fuck is wrong with you
I have some errands to run right now but this claim was is very detrimental to the town

sure, it makes you effectively invincible and clears a villager, but it narrows down the potential setups from 6 to 2, and the wolves now know to never target you at night

imo bulletproof is best played by breadcrumbing the wolves into targeting you

you'll never get to use your role now

Why do you sound so certain that Redsludge's role matches his claim? Is it because he's not your partner?

choof

[reuben_tate]

I'm not buying RedSludge's reasoning at all. Claiming bulletproof townie is often seen as a scummy move. For example, you say that the wolves will want to target you to get you done and over with, but this is unlikely. Why? Because why would wolves target someone who they know won't die that same night. Wolves have no reason to kill you now so you've made your role essentially useless. That's why claiming bulletproof is seen as scummy: with many roles that claim, the wolves will likely kill them that same night, thus confirming their alignment (since cardflips are on). This isn't the case with bulletproof: you're not going to get killed in the night and we don't know whether that's because you really are a bulletproof townie, or a wolf that's been lying to us this whole time.

Also, I'm not buying the counterclaim reasoning either. Wolves have very little incentive to counterclaim at this stage in the game. Also, with this setup, the lack of a counterclaim does not imply that you indeed have your role, because we don't even know what setup we are and you may be trying to fool us into thinking otherwise.

Sorry for the rant, but the bulletproof claim set off some red flags for me. I'll end this post with an intention to vote, but I want to get an official vote tally from T-Force first.

[choof]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

Did you forget this is my first game? :P

stop using this as a copout