01-25-2014, 07:49 PM | #521 |
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Awesome pick mexico, thought france was off from the beginning, great to see something finally work out for us. We can still pull this one through!
Looking at italy and india now, will be back on in a couple hours and see which of their overall actions seem more wolfy to me. |
01-25-2014, 08:04 PM | #522 | |
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Nothing about Russia even stands out as wolfy to me still. Ick. I'll wait and see what you guys come up with.
-- The only thing I've found that's very strange is the fact that France said Germany's human when he/she had the power to kill 'em off. When I was defending Germany, France was against Germany. Once I backed off and trusted France, "Oh look, Germany's actually human guys." That points to two possible things- 1) Germany and France were using a distancing tactic by going against each other. The moment France had the chance to kill Germany, he/she backed off. 2) France backed off of Germany because killing off a human when he/she claims to know Germany's identity is suspicious, and being correct about a human would build trust. I'm personally going with 2, though. I think Russia and France were just ganging up on Germany, and Germany took the time to point out something about France even when it wasn't necessary because everyone was so focused on Mexico. Also, I got played. Aw. Oh, and Quote:
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01-25-2014, 08:29 PM | #523 |
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One more thing- France obviously tried disguising his wolf buddies in his/her reads
Basically, the list went like this, and this is what I think of them: WOLF: Mexico- actually human Japan(now Sweden)- we're pretty sure this is a human United States- ('least I think this guy's human) Italy- wolf blended into read to seem legit/distance teammates NULL Germany- ? Brazil- ? India- ? (lol) One wolf is probably in the null section, too. Banking on India, but eh HUMAN Iran- probably human Egypt- ... England- probably human (lol iran come at me) Russia- wolf Now I'll go crawl into a corner and think about what I did. See you all later. |
01-25-2014, 08:41 PM | #524 |
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Wow, so much happened while i was away. First of all, i feel completely duped. I was pretty sure that France was green, and i shared a lot of his opinions when it came to reads. This is probably going to make me look more suspicious so i cant really help that i guess. Mexico being blue was pretty surprising, I kind of wish he didn't latch on like he did and make himself so suspicious for the first posts of content he had. That being said, the combination of him being blue and France being red is going to cause to have to re-read this thread and see if i can see anything that stuck out (Hindsight is 20/20 they say).
As for Japan stepping down, This wont make me any less suspicious of Sweden but I'll try to keep an open mind, and hope that they get active enough to give me something to go on. While their entry RP was pretty funny, I'd rather them talk more naturally so they don't use RP to confuse reads. I'm with Egypt here, if you had anything concrete that placed them as a wolf, it would have been nice to share it. |
01-25-2014, 08:47 PM | #525 | |
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01-25-2014, 09:30 PM | #526 |
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01-25-2014, 09:40 PM | #527 |
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If you get a hunch, you post in here, that way others can keep an eye out and its able to be built on to get something nore than a hunch. When did you start having these suspicions? You couldve saved us the trouble of having to deal with france recently and mexico couldve vigi`d another wolf.
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01-25-2014, 11:17 PM | #528 |
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So far after re-reading the thread, the only nation in the thread that just screams human to me is Egypt, although the more Germany posts, the more human vibe I'm getting from them. That being said here are my thoughts:
England hasn't really posted enough to sway one way or the other so I cant really read them either way, however both Egypt and Germany, who both look fairly human to me. My gut feeling says that either Germany + England or Egypt + England are a mason pair but i don't really have anything to go on there. I still would like to see more input out of England, so far they're one the nations with the lowest activity. Iran: ??? Brazil: ??? - These 3 nation's aren't really active enough to say one way or the other, India: ??? but chances are there is at least 1 wolf here. Japan/Sweden: ??? - I was pretty sure that this was a wolf initially but I'm not entirely sure if the whole "Inactivity" thing should invalidate these claims. Personally, gut feeling still says wolf, but I'll give them a chance to go through the thread and give their input on things and participate in discussion. Looking at United States under the same Lens as i would France, Lots of banter between the two early on and the fact they also seemed to bandwagon similarly seems pretty suspicious. It would make sense for them to agree/disagree to some extent if United States turns out to be Master Wolf, and Its certainly possible that France killed off Canada in order to cause suspicion to switch to the US/Mexico. France needed the Head wolf dead. Also the whole thing with US trying to push for a "leader" seems a little fishy, because something like that seems like it would only benefit the master wolf. I'll also repeat something that i said earlier in the thread: High post counts to me feel just as suspicious as lower post counts, Its just another way of trying to go UTR imo. TLDR: Current Opinions: US: Probable its a wolf, gut says Master Wolf. Sweden (Japan): I'm still leaning towards wolf, maybe 60%? Iran/Brazil/India: One or Two of these are probably a wolf. At least one of these is Green/Blue. Egypt, Germany, England, and Russia (Myself) are Green/Blue. These are subject to change, The results of tonight will be interesting to say the least. Depending on who gets lynched, It might force me to have to re look at things yet again. If i end up biting the bullet tonight, hopefully when my role is confirmed as a non-wolf it'll force others to re-think things too. |
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Okay, I'm back and calmer now.
Anyway, here's what I came up with- 1) I'm going to back off of Germany. Would a wolf behave as suspiciously as Germany did but then call out a wolf and participate in a scheme that actually fooled a few of us? I doubt it. Germany's posts come off as human as well, save for the first couple. 2) I feel pretty good about India being a wolf. I should have followed that feeling I had at the beginning of the game... 3) I jumped the gun on Sweden. Yeah, Japan implied that Sweden's green, but can we really trust Japan? We should stay safe and keep Sweden at null then judge Sweden off of future posts. Basically, what Russia said. Anyway, either Sweden or Italy's a wolf. I doubt France didn't post even one of the wolves as suspicious. Maybe they're both wolves, too. Who knows? 4) I also really can't find anything up with Russia. Russia seemed human to me before, and it's somehow staying the same now. But I don't think we should classify Russia as a wolf just yet. Still suspicious because of France though, but there's always the possibility that France may have fooled Russia to gain human allies. 5) I don't know what to make of India's recent posts. Iran pointed out that India may just be messing up, though. Maybe that's the case, but what were those posts? India, you were supposed to tell us when you were suspicious of someone, especially since you have barely provided any useful posts this entire game. Even the US and Russia said they were suspicious of Canada due to a gut feeling, and that concern wasn't bashed/ignored. India's situation's like a thing Italy said before about France, something along the lines of, "Too wolfy to be wolfy." Except France was actually a wolf... Eh. Anyway, my potential wolves list looks like this: India Italy Russia Sweden Brazil The higher the name, the more suspicious they are. And to Russia's posts- Quote:
I should probably reread the entire thread sometime, though I don't think the US is red right now. Oh, but didn't people also say that if Mexico wasn't red, then the United States would have to be reevaluated? Since Mexico (a confirmed blue role now) was suspicious of the US, we should at least give these suspicions some merit, especially since Mexico's the reason why France was destroyed. Quote:
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01-26-2014, 12:47 AM | #532 |
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Going to be heading off now I'm exhausted. I am going to be out for a while tomorrow so I'm not sure how much I'll be posting. I'll try to pop in during the morning before I leave and then of course I'll be on whenever I get back.
England, Italy, Brazil - Really hoping to see some more from you guys. You all have been fairly quiet this game. |
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I read through the whole thread and survived.
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I'm also starting to think Mexico didn't respond later on because he/she was okay with being lynched. Lynching the vengeful nation, while not as good as killing a wolf, is better than killing any other blue/green role. I feel that Mexico's move is the only reason why we still have somewhat of a shot in this game. I also believe that Mexico might have been keeping up with this thread and wasn't as suspicious of the United States as we thought, so I agree with the US. -- I'll be off now. Good night. |
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That leaves me with Russia (leaning toward human) Sweden (null) Brazil (I saw Brazil lurking earlier. Are you just a wolf who's smug with the fact that many people think you're green? Afraid of messing up?) I'm also still standing by the fact that there is AT LEAST one wolf in the Italy and Sweden pair. I'm nearly certain of this, so maybe going hardcore on Sweden tomorrow may be in our best interest. Same goes for Italy if they happen to pop up. Russia's post also looks helpful when thinking about people we should go for tomorrow, so I'll repost it. |
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01-26-2014, 03:31 PM | #536 |
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I don't know if France would have distanced himself from other wolves, his play style was pretty erratic. I'm fine on not pursuing anything with Russia right now anyway, I'm just noting anything that seems odd.
This was said about France so I wouldn't necessarily say that sticking out means they're not a wolf. So when it comes to India they are not off the hook with me. They still haven't really bothered to contribute anything to the discussion. We'll see what happens with their posting in the upcoming day phase. I have my suspicions about Sweden because of the whole Japan thing but I do want them to talk. It would be nice to have more information to go on other than well Japan was pretty much inactive and made random votes. I'm hoping in the next day phase this will be someone else we get the chance to see a lot more from. Brazil I was hanging on them actually being a busy human but if they're going to keep lurking the thread and not posting then I feel maybe you're right. I noticed them lurking too. Even a small contribution would be better than nothing. |
01-26-2014, 03:38 PM | #537 |
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Just realized we keep leaving England out. I need to look at their posts again but if I remember it was Iran that wanted to kill England. I'll have to see what's been said about England again as well.
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01-26-2014, 03:50 PM | #538 |
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I'm going to be replaced. My absence is hurting the game more than it is helping. I don't want that. Apologies.
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I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens with the replacement now. I think I'm going to have to go back and re-evaluate everyone that's left.
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