02-17-2013, 06:34 PM | #201 |
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Teachings of Jesus Christ. Not someone setting down rules in his name.
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02-17-2013, 06:40 PM | #202 |
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If Paul's letter to the Ephesians doesn't count, because Paul isn't Christ, then you have to disqualify every account we have about Jesus' words or actions that weren't set down by Christ himself...which is all of them. Which of the "teachings of Christ" that were listed above didn't come from one of the gospels of the apostles, and were instead written by Christ himself?
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Slaves - Although we do not have slaves per se in our modern culture (some of you would argue this point I'm sure!), the master-slave relationship clearly parallels the employer-employee relationship in our day. As in the relationships between husbands and wives and children and fathers, the principle Paul is emphasizing is that of authority and submission as a manifestation of one who is filled with and controlled by the Holy Spirit. Barclay has a note (although it is difficult to substantiate) that in the Romans Empire there were upwards to sixty million slaves, largely because the Roman citizen considered it beneath his dignity to work. Vincent adds that "in many of the cities of Asia Minor slaves outnumbered freemen". Thus practically all work was done by slaves. This was so pervasive that even doctors, teachers and secretaries of the Roman emperors were slaves! Although some masters were kind to their slaves, that appears to be the exception rather than the rule. Was that the only teaching of Christ that you misunderstood? Last edited by JJTrixX; 02-17-2013 at 06:51 PM.. |
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On a similar note, I would assume agnostic? |
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my entire post gets overlooked and you guys continue to validate this guys brain
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Also, why can I not follow these tenets and not believe in God? Oh, that's right because I'm too busy worrying about my own atheist ass to care about anything ever. You're extremely misguided if you think that all atheists are self-serving assholes with no care or interest in the well-being of others.
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jjtrixx doing a great job here imo
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02-17-2013, 07:32 PM | #211 |
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someone lock this or something, none of this is critical thinking.
devonin, you're just digging yourself a hole responding to this guy who is obviously just not very bright. Last edited by FFRN00B90210; 02-17-2013 at 07:38 PM.. |
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i think this topic should be locked on every forum from any website because this is how it will always turn out
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Just because it doesn't change the vocal individual's opinion on a forum doesn't mean it doesn't change other people's opinions.
Also FFRN00B90210, I did read your post and I agree with you, it's pretty ridiculous. The fact you mentioned that these discussions turn into fucking bookworks is quite tiring. It's basically people's ignorance/inability to google something being answered with evidence (wich is usually long if well substantiated) and as soon as that evidence is posted they shift to some other point where evidence contradicts their beliefs requiring MORE evidence to disprove beliefs that need validation in the first place, not disproval.
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Well said. I'm always glad to get these atheists/agnostics thinking. Sorry for assuming you were an atheist devonin. I'm interested to know what your belief/knowledge-of/philosophy is. I'm always open to an honest discussion of any belief including my own.
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I think my frustration comes from the fact that nearly every single religious person I've ever encountered does the exact same stuff during an argument. After a certain point I'm just convinced that they don't *really* care that much about what's true, but rather what makes them feel the best. A big part of it, too, is education. To be an atheist (and to understand why it's technically the "better" option if your goal is truth value) requires an understanding of logic, physics, statistics, biology, history, philosophy, astronomy, psychology/cognitive biases, chemistry, etc -- and you can't really provide all that education to someone yourself, let alone in one sitting -- and it's not like they really care to listen most of the time anyway. You can tell someone that they're moving the goalposts / invoking argument from ignorance / appealing to utility / using a false equivalence until the cows come home, but at the end of the day they simply don't care. Last edited by Reincarnate; 02-17-2013 at 11:56 PM.. |
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I don't even find them fun to watch anymore because they usually unravel the same way, and it honestly just makes me depressed that we're so far behind other first-world countries when it comes to this crap, lol. We'll get there eventually, but it's so long overdue.
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"Do not take the lord's name in vain" is pretty ironic considering how vain "the lord" actually is.
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