Official Tournament Round 3 Song Discussion

[Guest15937]

This is seriously the third Silvuh song out of three for D1 and D2? Don't get me wrong, Silvuh files are (usually) awesome, but some variety would be nice!

[TC_Halogen]

Haha, D1 and D2 tends to see a lot of Silvuh because he's the most proficient at creating lower level files. He's also the only one that tends to make them.

We should be giving him thanks to making all of those easier charts because the D1/D2 players would have nothing to play.

EDIT: Keyboard double-triggered on me during a ~8:1 A:P run of Weapon, faekjhrsakjfhas. Man... that accuracy, haha.

[psychoangel691]

Originally Posted by Guest15937

This is seriously the third Silvuh song out of three for D1 and D2? Don't get me wrong, Silvuh files are (usually) awesome, but some variety would be nice!

He's about the only one who steps files in that range. I had nothing else to put in the early d1/d2. I actually had to ask for more files because we were so short on easy ones.

[bmah]

Originally Posted by Guest15937

This is seriously the third Silvuh song out of three for D1 and D2? Don't get me wrong, Silvuh files are (usually) awesome, but some variety would be nice!

Well usually few simfilers seem to want to step easier files. Silvuh is one of those few who voluntarily step easier files. Maybe it'd inspire some new steppers to fill in the gap! If no one's going to step easier files, how about you?

Oh, and this is a collab, so at least it's not just Silvuh by himself!

[psychoangel691]

Oh btw guys I'd really like to hear any opinions on file ratings with D1/D2 because it was a difficult area to rate it felt. A lot of the lower end files seem out of place and it made it hard to compare files for ratings. Plus being that those of us rating the files are D5 and D7 players it's a little harder for us I think to be accurate on that end.

[Elite Ninja]

Holy crap this round I enjoyed every single one of the divisions songs and charts haha. Amazing round release :3
You'll probably hear me say a lot of the same thing for each chart lol.

Pembroke Welsh Corgi: Really fun song and a fun chart for being D1. Really liked it Silvuh ^^

ice valley "beyond the searoad": Nice song and fun chart for being decently easy to me. Was almost tricked near the end and got ahead of myself when there was a pause and then a 16th jump and another pause or whatever. Definetly would like to see another Silvuh + bmah file =P

Jazzman - Super Mario Bros: I remember testing this chart out for Felix before he submitted it to FFR and it was really fun. Glad to see it in-game now =D. Song is great and the chart he made for it goes very well too it. Lots of fun stuff to hit. Definetly a step up in difficulty for D3. That ending is pretty tricky and easy to mess up I'd think. Goodluck D3!

Slam the Door (Rogue Remix): Love the song and the chart is nice too. The jacks felt really good to hit and the was fun as well. Not too much of a raise in difficulty for D4 but rather just a new skillset to test =/

Undiscovered Colors: Love the song and really love the chart as well! Enjoyed this chart the most out of the rest but that doesn't mean the other charts weren't enjoyable. Took me 12 tries to AAA the song. I can see this being lowered to atleast a 68. The chart flows very well to me =3

Weapon: Really cool song and stepped very well. This chart has no mercy though haha. Lots of tough patterns dealing with jumpgluts and possible one handed patterns. The 24ths flowed very well and were my favorite things to hit in the chart. I feel like this chart is harder than the round 3 chart last tourney aka Shotgun Surgery and that 78 is too low for it x.x


I'd give difficulty opinions for the easier files but it's really hard for me to compare being in a high division so sorry Kayla v.v

[TC_Halogen]

Undiscovered Colors:
The file many people have been waiting for. I even heard Wayward Vagabond wants to make yet another version of this. I personally think this song is better off being listened to rather than being played, but despite that, I think it has been stepped in the best way possible. It flows relatively well, and I don't think it's as jarring as AJ might have thought. I think it's sorta like The Bird's Poisoned Bathwater's little sister...blippy and bursty but a lot more playable. Opinion: however well UC is stepped, I think it's overrated by many others. Best file that can be made for this song? Quite possibly so. Best file of the year already, or even best file so far this tournament? I disagree entirely.

I wanted to address this. First off, thanks so much for the kind review, haha. Yeah, I had a feeling that a lot of people were going to like this version over nois-or-e's, for obvious reasons, but it was a really nice sight to see it get such high ratings in the batch it was sent to. As far as the bolded area: best file for the song? Subjectively not -- there probably still are a lot of people that enjoyed Jae's hArDpAiN file; for all we know, stepartists used to charting this genre of songs might be able to come up with something better. It most certainly is a bad idea to call this file of 2013, seeing as how it's only February, haha.

Also, D4's song isn't a significant step up to be a kick in the face, but it is noticeable compared to last round. The cutoff should be a little bit looser because of the extreme amount of jack/jumpstream consistency.

[anubis2003]

Originally Posted by psychoangel691

Oh btw guys I'd really like to hear any opinions on file ratings with D1/D2 because it was a difficult area to rate it felt. A lot of the lower end files seem out of place and it made it hard to compare files for ratings. Plus being that those of us rating the files are D5 and D7 players it's a little harder for us I think to be accurate on that end.

I'd say the rating on D2's song is spot on. It's right there on the upper end of an easy AAA for me, and 32-33 is right where I begin to have difficulties AAAing. It also seems very similar in "weight" to other similar files (short jumpstreamy bursts) at the same difficulty.

D1's song is a bit harder for me to say for sure, but it seems accurate as well.

All the songs this round seem to be very well done. Great songs and the stepfiles all look fun too, although I haven't played D4-D6 yet.

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by bmah

Undiscovered Colors:
The file many people have been waiting for. I even heard Wayward Vagabond wants to make yet another version of this. I personally think this song is better off being listened to rather than being played, but despite that, I think it has been stepped in the best way possible. It flows relatively well, and I don't think it's as jarring as AJ might have thought. I think it's sorta like The Bird's Poisoned Bathwater's little sister...blippy and bursty but a lot more playable. Opinion: however well UC is stepped, I think it's overrated by many others. Best file that can be made for this song? Quite possibly so. Best file of the year already, or even best file so far this tournament? I disagree entirely.

I am and plan on submitting my version of undiscovered colours next batch hopefully. My file is probably very different from ajs in pretty much all aspects

[Arkuski]

Welp, see you guys next tournament

[kmay]

wtf D5 and its AAAs.

[kjwkjw]

Great files all around this round!

(D1) Pembroke Welsh Corgi
It started off as a typical easy file to me, but that speedup section and the 8th "jumpstream" that came after it were nothing short of a pleasant surprise. Great to see the lower divisions getting enjoyable files.

(D2) ice valley "beyond the searoad"
And another nice song and file for D2. Not much to say about this one; very solid chart. Good work on the collab!

(D3) Jazzman - Super Mario Bros
Oh wow, this was a really cool mini-medley/remix, heheh.
Noticeably more tricky than the previous D3 files in terms of rhythm and patterns, but still really fun to play. Personal favorite of the week.

(D4) Slam the Door (Rogue Remix)
Overall, fairly straightforward. This was another chart that got more interesting as the song progressed.

(D5) Undiscovered Colors
Great chart. Some sections were a bit tricky, but they certainly didn't take away from the fun factor. I'm going to have to give this another try sometime with the appropriate offset, haha.

(D6/D7) Weapon
Despite being quite long, this was a well-stepped chart to an energetic song. I find the 24th runs in kommi files very flowy and fun to play, and this file is no exception. The jumpgluts/minijacks definitely require control -- a very nice challenge for everyone, I'd say.

[bballa48]

Originally Posted by TC_Halogen

I wanted to address this. First off, thanks so much for the kind review, haha. Yeah, I had a feeling that a lot of people were going to like this version over nois-or-e's, for obvious reasons, but it was a really nice sight to see it get such high ratings in the batch it was sent to. As far as the bolded area: best file for the song? Subjectively not -- there probably still are a lot of people that enjoyed Jae's hArDpAiN file; for all we know, stepartists used to charting this genre of songs might be able to come up with something better. It most certainly is a bad idea to call this file of 2013, seeing as how it's only February, haha.

Also, D4's song isn't a significant step up to be a kick in the face, but it is noticeable compared to last round. The cutoff should be a little bit looser because of the extreme amount of jack/jumpstream consistency.

I mean I liked Jae's file a lot if you take out the 2 minutes of complete bull shit 1 note per second stuff.

But let's be honest... you just blew it out of the water. Nice work Halogen.

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

Originally Posted by TC_Halogen

He's also the only one that tends to make them.

No he isn't. He is the only one that manages to get them passed. I've made several, but they just haven't passed.

[Mike Weedmark]

Originally Posted by Brah

I think it's sorta like The Bird's Poisoned Bathwater's little sister...

Haha so true. I was thinking the same thing when I first played it. "This is Poisoned Bathwater, but EASY! I OWN THIS."

[Charu]

I just want to say, my favorite for this round was sort of hard to choose because all of them were fun this time around!

But, there can only be one!

My favorite of the round is Slam the Door (Rouge Remix), holy... this song was stepped so well and it was catchy to boot! Very-very nice!

Honorary mention of Undiscovered Colours as well! That chart was as fluid as it can possibly get the way Mr. Halogen stepped it.

[Coolboyrulez0]

Originally Posted by Charu

My favorite of the round is Slam the Door (Rouge Remix), holy... this song was stepped so well and it was catchy to boot! Very-very nice!

CBR liked this comment. *thumbs up*

[smartdude1212]

CBR I practically blew a load on you in my tournament random thought. (sun)

Holy shit I just tried to use a Skype emoticon on FFR. C6 what are you doing to me...?! :'(

[Coolboyrulez0]

Originally Posted by smartdude1212

CBR I practically blew a load on you in my tournament random thought. (sun)

mmmmmm (inlove)

PS: I absolutely adore the moisture level chart you utilized. That's a concept that needs to be used more often.

[psychoangel691]

Originally Posted by anubis2003

I'd say the rating on D2's song is spot on. It's right there on the upper end of an easy AAA for me, and 32-33 is right where I begin to have difficulties AAAing. It also seems very similar in "weight" to other similar files (short jumpstreamy bursts) at the same difficulty.

D1's song is a bit harder for me to say for sure, but it seems accurate as well.

All the songs this round seem to be very well done. Great songs and the stepfiles all look fun too, although I haven't played D4-D6 yet.

Thanks for the input on ratings. Glad to know they're not seeming super off