Songs?

[mountain_dew17]

Why does every song level 9 or higher must have jumps in the streams???? I'm just really curious....

[Kibblre]

Because that's what adds difficulty.

[bmah]

Not every song does...but they're a lot more frequent because you're at a higher difficulty. Also, jumps are often the product of arrows going to multiple instruments in the music simultaneously. You can't expect linear steps as you play harder songs. This isn't DDR.

[reuben_tate]

Well the jumps in the streams in probably what makes the file a 9 or higher in the first place since it adds a bit of difficulty. Also, the jumps aren't there randomly, they are usually placed on emphasized beats of the stream.

[mountain_dew17]

Originally Posted by justin_ator

Taking out jumps in streams removes difficulty, if you want to keep difficulty without jumps, you end up with charts like Rave7, Reality, Eclipse (Solar), and Freedom DiVE...

Which charts like that are mainly for one-handed or spread players.....Which is sort of unfair to the index and three fingered players...I'm just saying they need to add more arrows and less jumps.

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

Originally Posted by Kibblre

Because that's what adds difficulty.

This is just a silly uniformed statement. No offense intended.

Originally Posted by justin_ator

Freedom DiVE...

This song has a massive jumpstream in it are you nuts?

Pretty much what Bmah said in short.

But if you asked me: I gather from you even asking this you play index style. What sucks now days, is that index friendly charts pretty much never would make it through today's batch anymore [especially] at a higher difficulty because the recent stepping meta is Technicality > Everything.

At least this is how I see it.

Edit: In light of your recent post:

Putting charts into the game is not about being fair to peoples play styles. If this was the case we'd have more charts like MAMA that are complete shit (sorry Hi19) lurking in this game being stupid and wrecking ranks. Though I will say I guess that point of view has some merit being that the largest portion of charts appeals to those of us who play spread.

On a final note: As an ex Indexer myself, I understand exactly why you're asking such things. It's frustrating to know that you play a unique style that adds a new perspective to the game, and it's really unfortunate that there are less charts that cater to Index to keep it a viable style. Sadly I can only tell you this: You're forced into playing spread. The only thing to do now days is suck up whatever excuse you need to switch to spread and do it.

[PrawnSkunk]

Originally Posted by mountain_dew17

Which charts like that are mainly for one-handed or spread players.....Which is sort of unfair to the index and three fingered players...I'm just saying they need to add more arrows and less jumps.

Jumpstream exists in DDR, so why not FFR? From glancing over this thread, it seems you are getting a little butthurt from a new skill that you are uncomfortable with. Not sure how to word this, but my advice: just think as the jumps as part of the stream. If you really want blah stream files, there are charts that pertain to this. iirc, I think Delirium is one of them.

[rushyrulz]

Originally Posted by justin_ator

Freedom DiVE...

Excuse me, what..?

[Kibblre]

Originally Posted by Xx{Midnight}xX

This is just a silly uniformed statement. No offense intended.

Woops, my once sentence statement wasn't enough to please Middie, master of stepcharts. Better go read a book.

[mountain_dew17]

Originally Posted by PrawnSkunk

Jumpstream exists in DDR, so why not FFR? .

I have played DDR for about 8 years and In the Groove for about 5 years and not once have i ever seen a jumpstream....The point i'm trying to get across is the step artists should not focus on one style of play.....More people would actually play the song more than once if it didn't have jumps within a 32nd burst of stream.

[Zageron]

jump-stream is too hard. take out all the jumpstream or i'll ban jx

[hi19hi19]

There are pure stream/index friendly difficult files. Play Monstrous Turtles, Over the Frail Dream, Purple, Reality... or basically anything pre-2008 that Rebirth0 stepped. He made a lot of indexable charts.

[Kibblre]

Originally Posted by mountain_dew17

I have played DDR for about 8 years and In the Groove for about 5 years and not once have i ever seen a jumpstream....The point i'm trying to get across is the step artists should not focus on one style of play.....More people would actually play the song more than once if it didn't have jumps within a 32nd burst of stream.

If we had 4 feet, we'd have jumpstream in DDR/ITG.

EDIT: Inb4 silly uninformed statement.

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

Originally Posted by Kibblre

Woops, my once sentence statement wasn't enough to please Middie, master of stepcharts. Better go read a book.

If you're honestly as butt hurt as this implies: Yes your time is better spent reading a book.

[Kibblre]

Originally Posted by Xx{Midnight}xX

If you're honestly as butt hurt as this implies: Yes your time is better spent reading a book.

Ah, I guess you're not as good at deciphering emotions as I thought. Psych 101.

OP, if you want less jumpstreams give SM a try. There are many index-based packs that are speedy without jumpstreams.

[AlexDest]

Originally Posted by mountain_dew17

I have played DDR for about 8 years and In the Groove for about 5 years and not once have i ever seen a jumpstream....The point i'm trying to get across is the step artists should not focus on one style of play.....More people would actually play the song more than once if it didn't have jumps within a 32nd burst of stream.

if thats the criteria

then come back when rhythm games are ded please and thank u

[mountain_dew17]

Originally Posted by Xx{Midnight}xX

If you're honestly as butt hurt as this implies: Yes your time is better spent reading a book.

Not butturt at all.If i'm not mistaken,This site should be open to all ways of playing not just one style,If your implying that everyone should play spread,That's like asking for slavery to be reborn.

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

Mountandew it wasn't aimed at you.

But yes I am saying everyone should play spread because with the way ffr is now: It's forced. It's not changing anytime soon.

I don't like it but that's just how it is.

[bmah]

Originally Posted by mountain_dew17

I have played DDR for about 8 years and In the Groove for about 5 years and not once have i ever seen a jumpstream

Stoic says hi

Originally Posted by mountain_dew17

....The point i'm trying to get across is the step artists should not focus on one style of play.....More people would actually play the song more than once if it didn't have jumps within a 32nd burst of stream.

The reason why spread files are more common is because they tend to more satisfiably acknowledge the song being stepped. It's difficult to find songs that can be acknowledged with single-arrow streams and little else. To how files are stepped today, stepping most songs that way would feel incomplete and unsatisfying to the music and [spread] players. Finally, the biggest reason that spread is prominent is simply because it's what the majority plays. Just like anything else, the majority is usually what is satisfied first.

I'm sure though some steppers will want to stand out from the rest and indeed step some index songs for a change. Alternatively, you can try stepping an index file yourself if no one else is going to.

[hi19hi19]

All this discussion, but there's dozens of 9+ indexable/pure stream files in the game anyway. There should be enough for you to play files in your comfort zone, then plenty more out there for you to push your boundaries.