Which DAW do you use any why? - Page 2

**kommisar** · 04-12-2011, 06:55 AM

fl studio for more composed stuff

LSDJ for purist chiptunes

**Mans0n** · 04-12-2011, 10:31 AM

First program that got me into making music was samplitude studio lol.

**kid_merkury** · 04-12-2011, 11:33 AM

didn't i make a sticky about this already

**Mans0n** · 04-12-2011, 12:05 PM

yeah but this is more detailed

**3lijah** · 04-12-2011, 12:09 PM

Does anyone know anything about Logic Pro(in general I mean)? Thinking of using it, as well as EZ Drummer. Im not gonna torrent these either, im purchasing them lol. Only because I want to avoid as many problems as possible with the product activation-wise and well, legal-wise. Which is why I want to be extra careful when/if I do purchase them. I know the ffr community has at least a handful of ppl that record live instruments and not just computer generated music. Not hatin, because FL and other programs are hard as shit to utilize what sound you want lol.

LogicalDefiance · 04-12-2011, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkbearX

I can't name one thing that Live can't do that FL can.

To name a few off the top of my head:

- Automation shapes and precise/input values on automation points.

- Controllers comparable to Fruity Peak Controller and Formula Controller.

- Dual screen compatibility. (floating windows for one example)

- Memory bridging

BTW I would love to be proved wrong on these since I have both programs and the above are the main reasons I dont use Ableton anymore.

What are some Ableton features that FL studio doesn't have? (excluding DJing) I would love to know.

jakeyjake7 · 04-12-2011, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LogicalDefiance

To name a few off the top of my head:

- Automation shapes and precise/input values on automation points.

- Controllers comparable to Fruity Peak Controller and Formula Controller.

- Dual screen compatibility. (floating windows for one example)

- Memory bridging

BTW I would love to be proved wrong on these since I have both programs and the above are the main reasons I dont use Ableton anymore.

What are some Ableton features that FL studio doesn't have? (excluding DJing) I would love to know.

Max For Live.

LogicalDefiance · 04-13-2011, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jakeyjake7

Max For Live.

Yeah FL also tried to include something similar to Reaktor too. They call it 'Chainer'. It doesn't do everything that Max for Live does(nor vise versa), but Max for Live doesn't do anything that you can't do in FL Studio that i've seen.

The whole non-linear approach to mixing/production is probably going to be the new thing in DAWs, but it's not really necessary it just simplifies some things with signal chains.

**Mans0n** · 04-13-2011, 08:01 AM

I mean if you REALLY wanted to you could mix songs, and do live sets in FL, but it would just be a mega bitch to do if going to 10+ minute lol.

LogicalDefiance · 04-13-2011, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mans0n

I mean if you REALLY wanted to you could mix songs, and do live sets in FL, but it would just be a mega bitch to do if going to 10+ minute lol.

Not really. You can't beatmatch tracks without processing time and likely playback glitches/stops.

**DarkbearX** · 04-13-2011, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LogicalDefiance

To name a few off the top of my head:

- Automation shapes and precise/input values on automation points.

- Controllers comparable to Fruity Peak Controller and Formula Controller.

- Dual screen compatibility. (floating windows for one example)

- Memory bridging

BTW I would love to be proved wrong on these since I have both programs and the above are the main reasons I dont use Ableton anymore.

What are some Ableton features that FL studio doesn't have? (excluding DJing) I would love to know.

I suppose my statement was a bit bold. I love Fruity Peak and Formula Controller both. I haven't found a way to really mimic either one in Live (yet), but I'm sure there are ways. Also, about the automation, I guess that's subjective because I think automating in Live is much easier.

The main reasons I use Live over FL mainly is because...

-EQ has L/R M/S modes (FL's doesn't)

-Reverb has hold button (FL's doesn't, and yes I do use this enough to make a difference rofl)

-unlimited FX chain. I know you can route and all that shit in FL to technically have more than 8 slots, but that's sloppy and inefficient and I hate doing it. Aforementioned Chainer 'kind of' fixes this, but still not as effective as it should be.

-FREEZE TRACK! My God FL doesn't have ANY excuses at this point to not have freeze track. I am aware of smart disable macro, multithreading crap etc as well, still not as great as freeze track.

Also this is opinionated too but I really hate how bulky FL's limiter is.

LogicalDefiance · 04-13-2011, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkbearX

-EQ has L/R M/S modes (FL's doesn't)

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkbearX

-Reverb has hold button (FL's doesn't, and yes I do use this enough to make a difference rofl)

Fruity Mute, Automate on/off. It's an extra step but not one that takes up much time, like 10 seconds tops.

Personally I use the Send busses in FL each with their own type of reverb and just route it into the sound I want when I want it; if I'm going to be doing advanced reverb stuff that is, like it seems you are heavily invested in apparently.

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Originally Posted by DarkbearX

-unlimited FX chain. I know you can route and all that shit in FL to technically have more than 8 slots, but that's sloppy and inefficient and I hate doing it. Aforementioned Chainer 'kind of' fixes this, but still not as effective as it should be.

It's not sloppy, when one slot fills up it continues in the next one...takes all of 5 seconds to click off master send, and click the specific channel send. Plus in most cases there shouldn't be a need for more then 8 effects anyways. Not unless you're using stacking VST types like Grossbeat or Vocalizer.

I'm not attacking you, sorry if it seems that way. I get defensive over FL =P

**DJSBX** · 04-16-2011, 11:56 AM

First off, I use Reason+Record Rewired in to Ableton Live (just for the sake of saying what I use)

Ive seen TONS... TONS of FL users bad mouth other products because it takes one or two extra clicks to do something that takes 1 click in fl.

In this case, ableton has a sleeker effects chain interface.
and on the same topic, I dont think you understand what the reverbs hold button does. It doesnt mute the sound on/off.

04-12-2011, 06:55 AM	#21
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04-12-2011, 10:31 AM	#22
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Mans0n Sun and Stars Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Central Californ.i.a. Age: 29 Posts: 2,907	Re: Which DAW do you use any why? I mean if you REALLY wanted to you could mix songs, and do live sets in FL, but it would just be a mega bitch to do if going to 10+ minute lol. __________________ http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/Br0wnbread Check out my band profile and give it a like! :P

04-16-2011, 11:56 AM	#33
DJSBX FFR Music Producers Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba Age: 36 Posts: 514	Re: Which DAW do you use any why? First off, I use Reason+Record Rewired in to Ableton Live (just for the sake of saying what I use) Ive seen TONS... TONS of FL users bad mouth other products because it takes one or two extra clicks to do something that takes 1 click in fl. In this case, ableton has a sleeker effects chain interface. and on the same topic, I dont think you understand what the reverbs hold button does. It doesnt mute the sound on/off. __________________ Check Out My website! http://www.djsbx.com

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