4-Finger Beginner (New Scores on Pg.2)

Torment · 01-13-2005, 06:15 PM

This thread isn't exactly a brag, moreso an area for me to ask a few questions and show a few scores using 4-finger (spread setup)

I have played SM for a decent amount of time, but as of yesterday, I figured it is time to move from index to 4-finger. The transition is a bit rough, to say the least, but I rather enjoy it.

My keysetup:
P = Left
[ = Down
8(NumPad) = Up
9(NumPad) = Right

Now, with 4Finger, I realize that I must get better MA/PA, but I think it's a given that my MA/PA is going to suck in the beginning, after using index for so long, right? Anyways... Here are a few questions...

1. Are the below scores okay for just starting 4-finger?
2. How can I do Left/Down & Up/Right trills better? Any tips?
3. What are some good files to practice on?
4. Any other tips, pointers, etc.?

Thanks. =]

Torment · 01-13-2005, 06:16 PM

2 More.

tsutter · 01-13-2005, 06:44 PM

1. Are the below scores okay for just starting 4-finger? Not bad, but MA/PA needs work of course :P speed too.
2. How can I do Left/Down & Up/Right trills better? Any tips? Switch to your index fingers.

**Tank101** · 01-13-2005, 06:50 PM

3. Depends on what your looking for. For MA, just basically work on accuracy by playing some easier song. If your looking for songs with fast stream, try Stratofortress, One More Lovely, or my Lovely Lovely Lovely.

Torment · 01-13-2005, 07:39 PM

2. How can I do Left/Down & Up/Right trills better? Any tips? Switch to your index fingers.

I can't on a spread setup. It's a long way to reach over.

VashtheGunman7 · 01-13-2005, 08:26 PM

Nice scores. I can stand NVLM-ZK's Dignity that is why when mine comes out it should have good results. Nice job for A BEEEEEEEGIIIGIGIGIGIGNER

tsutter · 01-13-2005, 09:54 PM

Mmmmmmm trilling on a spread setup is a bitch. Not much you can really do except just trill with regular fingers.

Origamikid · 01-13-2005, 10:06 PM

yeh, those trills are a huge pain... if the trill is fast enuff tho, u can fudge it by playing them as double jacks... otherwise you just gotta get used to it...

Torment · 01-13-2005, 10:16 PM

Who plays on a spread setup?

tsutter · 01-13-2005, 11:03 PM

Origami does, Boneti does, Omegix does (I think...)...those are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head.

DukAmok · 01-13-2005, 11:22 PM

i do. almost exact same setup too. [ , ] , 8 , 9. yeah, i just trill as fast as i can with my fingers. i miss some, but hey, im getting faster.

justaguy · 01-13-2005, 11:45 PM

spread is cheating, any modification of a setup is cheating XD i'm such a ******

Torment · 01-14-2005, 01:33 AM

After playing with it for a bit. I'm getting more and more comfortable with 4finger.
But I'm beginning to see that C500 is too slow now. Time to step it up to 550/575

Nonetheless... I might go back to the traditional JKL: setup for the sole fact of trilling, but besides that, 4 Finger is actually rather enjoyable. Hell, I beat Speedcore Dandy 1st try with it. (A C, but that's beside the point.)

Any other tips, song ideas, etc, would be greatly appreciated.

DukAmok · 01-14-2005, 02:03 AM

speed it up more. i find that i can do better closer to 700 bpm on 4 finger, while i normally play my best under 600 on index. dunno why really.

Origamikid · 01-14-2005, 06:22 AM

lol I play best at around 550 w/ 4 finger and around 500 with index lol >_<

eVILPeeR · 01-14-2005, 03:40 PM

I play a spread set-up.
AS (left down) JK (up right) is my set-up, and it works good. Trills are a pain indeed, but I've just managed to play with that disability and been getting good scores anyways.

Just work on it.. it's good one-handed trill practice anyways.. not that it matters lol

Boneti · 01-14-2005, 03:43 PM

you can do some trills on spread setup :P

fusi0n · 01-14-2005, 03:52 PM

If you're going split, I would recommend getting them as close as possible while having them register all 4. Putting them closer together just feels better for me and I feel like I have more control, and registering 4 is for harder things like Oi Punk or Max 300 IIDX where I might hit all 4. I'm on cv ./

Torment · 01-14-2005, 09:43 PM

Played a bit more today. Making improvements on arrow reading, trills, and overall speed. Accuracy training (J6) will come when I'm comfortable enough.

Here's a few random SS's from today's session.

Torment · 01-14-2005, 09:44 PM

Few more.

01-13-2005, 06:44 PM	#3
tsutter FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 2,370	1. Are the below scores okay for just starting 4-finger? Not bad, but MA/PA needs work of course :P speed too. 2. How can I do Left/Down & Up/Right trills better? Any tips? Switch to your index fingers. __________________ [02:02:16] <Hayden> i carry the plastic i make it spastic when i put it in ya moms ass boy her ** is elastic when im finished in knee that slut in the jaw snap her back in to pieces i lay down the law cuz i gots no respect fo that * elixers seeing as he got double dick **ed on dust 2 by an ingram at long A in pit

01-13-2005, 07:39 PM	#5
Torment FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 101	2. How can I do Left/Down & Up/Right trills better? Any tips? Switch to your index fingers. I can't on a spread setup. It's a long way to reach over. __________________ - Torment -

01-13-2005, 08:26 PM	#6
VashtheGunman7 FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Southern Cross(Fist of the Northstar) Posts: 456	Nice scores. I can stand NVLM-ZK's Dignity that is why when mine comes out it should have good results. Nice job for A BEEEEEEEGIIIGIGIGIGIGNER __________________

01-13-2005, 09:54 PM	#7
tsutter FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 2,370	Mmmmmmm trilling on a spread setup is a bitch. Not much you can really do except just trill with regular fingers. __________________ [02:02:16] <Hayden> i carry the plastic i make it spastic when i put it in ya moms ass boy her ** is elastic when im finished in knee that slut in the jaw snap her back in to pieces i lay down the law cuz i gots no respect fo that * elixers seeing as he got double dick **ed on dust 2 by an ingram at long A in pit

01-13-2005, 10:06 PM	#8
Origamikid FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 949	yeh, those trills are a huge pain... if the trill is fast enuff tho, u can fudge it by playing them as double jacks... otherwise you just gotta get used to it... __________________ tsutter: ORIGAMIKID WINS FOREVER Anuj: ORIGAMIKID WINS FOREVER banditcom: hmm i can still surf the forums... cool banditcom: XD banditcom: im not tsuttered

01-13-2005, 06:50 PM	#4
Tank101 I V vi iii IV I IV V Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The Tent Age: 32 Posts: 2,082	3. Depends on what your looking for. For MA, just basically work on accuracy by playing some easier song. If your looking for songs with fast stream, try Stratofortress, One More Lovely, or my Lovely Lovely Lovely.

01-13-2005, 10:16 PM	#9
Torment FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 101	Who plays on a spread setup? __________________ - Torment -

01-13-2005, 11:03 PM	#10
tsutter FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 2,370	Origami does, Boneti does, Omegix does (I think...)...those are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head. __________________ [02:02:16] <Hayden> i carry the plastic i make it spastic when i put it in ya moms ass boy her ** is elastic when im finished in knee that slut in the jaw snap her back in to pieces i lay down the law cuz i gots no respect fo that * elixers seeing as he got double dick **ed on dust 2 by an ingram at long A in pit

01-13-2005, 11:22 PM	#11
DukAmok FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Corona, CA Posts: 1,841	i do. almost exact same setup too. [ , ] , 8 , 9. yeah, i just trill as fast as i can with my fingers. i miss some, but hey, im getting faster. __________________

01-13-2005, 11:45 PM	#12
justaguy Forum User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: next 2 no 1 in oregon rofl Posts: 3,566	spread is cheating, any modification of a setup is cheating XD i'm such a ****** __________________ #TeamSwoll

01-14-2005, 01:33 AM	#13
Torment FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 101	After playing with it for a bit. I'm getting more and more comfortable with 4finger. But I'm beginning to see that C500 is too slow now. Time to step it up to 550/575 Nonetheless... I might go back to the traditional JKL: setup for the sole fact of trilling, but besides that, 4 Finger is actually rather enjoyable. Hell, I beat Speedcore Dandy 1st try with it. (A C, but that's beside the point.) Any other tips, song ideas, etc, would be greatly appreciated. __________________ - Torment -

01-14-2005, 02:03 AM	#14
DukAmok FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Corona, CA Posts: 1,841	speed it up more. i find that i can do better closer to 700 bpm on 4 finger, while i normally play my best under 600 on index. dunno why really. __________________

01-14-2005, 06:22 AM	#15
Origamikid FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 949	lol I play best at around 550 w/ 4 finger and around 500 with index lol >_< __________________ tsutter: ORIGAMIKID WINS FOREVER Anuj: ORIGAMIKID WINS FOREVER banditcom: hmm i can still surf the forums... cool banditcom: XD banditcom: im not tsuttered

01-14-2005, 03:40 PM	#16
eVILPeeR FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada Age: 36 Posts: 2,284	I play a spread set-up. AS (left down) JK (up right) is my set-up, and it works good. Trills are a pain indeed, but I've just managed to play with that disability and been getting good scores anyways. Just work on it.. it's good one-handed trill practice anyways.. not that it matters lol __________________

01-14-2005, 03:43 PM	#17
Boneti FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 313	you can do some trills on spread setup :P __________________ boneti12345: youre a blind speedwhore hidden in the closet OrigamiKid86: LOL

01-14-2005, 03:52 PM	#18
fusi0n FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indianapolis, IN Age: 36 Posts: 2,158	If you're going split, I would recommend getting them as close as possible while having them register all 4. Putting them closer together just feels better for me and I feel like I have more control, and registering 4 is for harder things like Oi Punk or Max 300 IIDX where I might hit all 4. I'm on cv ./

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