Is it possible to destroy matter? - Page 3

TheAppleEater · 07-2-2004, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GuidoHunter

Quote:

Originally Posted by brutisgrr

But as far as I've seen, we have not seen any true examples of anti-matter because
a) It would more than likely be invisible to the naked eye.
b) we'd all be royally screwed if one did come up.
c) it only exists in theory so far anyway

No, we can create it in laboratories.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

I thought anit-matter only existed in theory, but I don't know much about physics so I'm going to let someone else comment on that.

suicidalmuskrat · 07-2-2004, 09:49 PM

seriously, read about white holes...i'll put some good links up soon...it extremely fascinating

DDRISONLY4COOLPPLZ · 07-2-2004, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jam930

example.

Water -> Ice.

Was the water destroyed? no.

What if instead you had the ice melt into water and it evaporated ?

**talisman** · 07-3-2004, 08:52 AM

Alright the ice to water to steam and whatever, that's all physical change, matter is conserved.

Conservation of matter is wrong, conservation of matter and energy is correct.

Technically matter can come out of nowhere as long as it is destroyed soon after by the equivalent antiparticle.

In other words, an electron and a positron could pop up together somewhere, travel forward in spacetime for a bit and annihilate. Or you could think of it as an electron going forward in time for a while then turning around and going backwards in time. (Feynman proved that a positron moving forward in time is the same as an electron moving backwards in time).

Jam is correct, but Guido is also correct if you choose to accept the parameters for his arguments: mainly that energy can't even enter into it. However, Jam's argument is more scientifically correct, because it doesn't limit itself to specifically answering the original question.

Black holes are certainly observable--they emit X-Ray radiation. X-rays form just outside the event horizon of the black hole spontaneously in order to compensate for the apparent decrease in entropy cause by matter entering a black hole (entropy must always increase; Second Law of Thermodynamics).
If the black hole spins, these X-rays emit in streams from the polar areas.

Antimatter has also been proven to exist, and has been observed in numerous cloud chamber experiments.

GuidoHunter · 07-3-2004, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by talisman

Jam is correct, but Guido is also correct if you choose to accept the parameters for his arguments: mainly that energy can't even enter into it. However, Jam's argument is more scientifically correct, because it doesn't limit itself to specifically answering the original question.

I'll go for that.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

Jam930 · 07-3-2004, 02:22 PM

One big happy bunch. Everybody wins! yaaay... sigh*

ddrruler · 07-3-2004, 06:45 PM

i lose yay...this is confusing

**Tank101** · 07-4-2004, 10:33 AM

Let me make everything simple now that most people have agreed.

No.
You cannot destroy matter.
The End.

GuidoHunter · 07-4-2004, 12:45 PM

REEEEEEE!!! [loud buzzer noise]

Try again, buddy. I guess the answer you're looking for is best stated in talisman's post.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

Jam930 · 07-4-2004, 12:52 PM

Guido...

Peace =D

GuidoHunter · 07-4-2004, 01:03 PM

Haha, okay, okay. I will admit that this thread got me a little frustrated.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

Jam930 · 07-4-2004, 01:32 PM

HAHAHa! I won!!! *tongue

We need a new thread =/.

ramonesfan · 07-5-2004, 07:22 PM

ok dont get mad if someone already put this, now a like lab thing somwhere in the u.k. has discovered anti-matter and when ant-matter meets matter it causes annihalation (sp.?) it is like the greates force known to man or somethin like that [annihalation] (dunno but the greatest force but the stuff about ant-matter touching matter is true)
ok i just read what brutus wrote yes anti-matter has been discovered in this lab these people were testing the big bang theory and atter and anti-matter came from their tests

ToshX · 07-5-2004, 08:44 PM

Matters destroyed by anti-matter, theres your answer.

Jam930 · 07-5-2004, 11:17 PM

Back to the stone age...

Please read this thread before posting.

ToshX · 07-6-2004, 09:19 AM

Why bother? Thats the answer, everyone knows it, so whats the point of this topic anyway. This isnt 'critical' thinking, its just common sense.

Jam930 · 07-6-2004, 12:53 PM

sigh*

Anyone else wanna punch this guy?

**talisman** · 07-6-2004, 12:59 PM

I'll do it.

LEGO · 07-6-2004, 01:01 PM

this whole page is filled with one liners

PC+1

NeoDarkHeart · 07-6-2004, 03:44 PM

tosh - the destruction of matter creates energy, and that's the new form of the matter, so it was never destroyed, just transformed.

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talisman Resident Penguin Join Date: May 2003 Age: 37 Posts: 4,598	Alright the ice to water to steam and whatever, that's all physical change, matter is conserved. Conservation of matter is wrong, conservation of matter and energy is correct. Technically matter can come out of nowhere as long as it is destroyed soon after by the equivalent antiparticle. In other words, an electron and a positron could pop up together somewhere, travel forward in spacetime for a bit and annihilate. Or you could think of it as an electron going forward in time for a while then turning around and going backwards in time. (Feynman proved that a positron moving forward in time is the same as an electron moving backwards in time). Jam is correct, but Guido is also correct if you choose to accept the parameters for his arguments: mainly that energy can't even enter into it. However, Jam's argument is more scientifically correct, because it doesn't limit itself to specifically answering the original question. Black holes are certainly observable--they emit X-Ray radiation. X-rays form just outside the event horizon of the black hole spontaneously in order to compensate for the apparent decrease in entropy cause by matter entering a black hole (entropy must always increase; Second Law of Thermodynamics). If the black hole spins, these X-rays emit in streams from the polar areas. Antimatter has also been proven to exist, and has been observed in numerous cloud chamber experiments.

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Tank101 I V vi iii IV I IV V Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The Tent Age: 32 Posts: 2,082	Let me make everything simple now that most people have agreed. No. You cannot destroy matter. The End.

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ramonesfan FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 89	ok dont get mad if someone already put this, now a like lab thing somwhere in the u.k. has discovered anti-matter and when ant-matter meets matter it causes annihalation (sp.?) it is like the greates force known to man or somethin like that [annihalation] (dunno but the greatest force but the stuff about ant-matter touching matter is true) ok i just read what brutus wrote yes anti-matter has been discovered in this lab these people were testing the big bang theory and atter and anti-matter came from their tests

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ToshX FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 5,111	Matters destroyed by anti-matter, theres your answer.

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Jam930 FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,069	Back to the stone age... Please read this thread before posting. __________________ -Jamie

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ToshX FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 5,111	Why bother? Thats the answer, everyone knows it, so whats the point of this topic anyway. This isnt 'critical' thinking, its just common sense.

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