The Riddle Thread

[andy-o24]

Vishnal's is silence. Reach's is too confusing for a little like me to answer though.

[Silvuh]

Originally Posted by Reach

Brain pain:

If a cube and a tetrahedron interpenetrate, what is the maximum possible number of solid pieces (i.e., completely bounded volumes)?

Hm, well, for two tetrahedrons, it's nine, because there are four points on each tetraheadron plus the one intersecting solid... Though that may only work for intersections of two of the same polyhedrons...
Hm... *does a little sketch thingy...*
Well, A tetrahedron intersecting with a cube... there would be the four points outside and the insersection solid, but the rest of the cube would all still be connected, I think... Well, if the tetrahedron isn't large enough, eh... So, then, there would be seven solids.
So, uhh, seven and fourteen will be my guesses as of now...

The Riddle Thread: Giving Non-Thinkers a Chance in CT.
Funny or not? >.>

[Reach]

More Brain Pain: Analogies

Here are some ridiculously hard analogies. You are free to use a dictionary or other resources if you want. Generally there is only one correct answer. I will accept more than one for some. Anyone with an average vocabulary won't get any of these right, so cookies to anyone that can get some of them. Maybe 1/2 points if you're close but not exact.

Oh yea, and if you can help it avoid other peoples answers.

1. FALL : AUTUMNAL :: SPRING : ?

2. ONE : MONO :: FEW : ?

3. LIFE : VITAL :: BIRTH : ?

4. X^2+Y^2=Z^2 : PYTHAGORAS :: X^n+Y^n = Z^n : ?

5. 24 HOURS : ROTATION :: 26,000 YEARS : ?

6. WATER : SWIMMER :: CAVE : ?

7. TAUGHT BY ANOTHER : PUPIL :: TAUGHT BY ONESELF : ?

8. GENERALIZED : LOCALIZED :: ANEMIA : ?

9. TEACHER : MENTOR :: BULLY : ?

10. * : ASTERISK :: 'e'ROTATED180DEGREES :

11. INDIA, AUSTRALIA, AFRICA, SOUTH AMERICA, ANTARCTICA : GONDWANALAND :: HORSE, ASS, ZEBRA : ?

12. FEAR OF STRANGERS : XENOPHOBE :: LOVE OF CATS : ?

13. TINTINNABULATION : ONOMATOPOEA :: BITTERSWEET : ?

14. BEND ONE'S KNEE TO : GENUFLECTION :: TURN ONE'S BACK ON : ?


Edit:

I'll edit individual scores into here. 1 point for a correct answer, 1/2 for a close answer. I won't say which are right or wrong for the sake of the answers, and also don't make a post with just 1 response XD

EI_Tizzy: 3
Silvuh: 1.5
spyke: 5.5

[EI_Tizzy]

K, got a lot of these:

1: VERNAL
2: POLY
4: FERMAT
6: SPELUNKER?
9: ENEMY?
10: 3
11: Reach XD

[Silvuh]

3: Congenital
5: Equinoctical Cycle
11: Ungulates
13: Sadness
14: Repudiate or Shun

Well, those are my thoughts now... I'll say if I think of any more answers.

Only 1.5? Dang. D:

[Reach]

Originally Posted by Silvuh

Only 1.5? Dang. D:

They're not easy.

Specifically because some of your answers are close but there is a better answer.


Brain Pain one more time: Sequences


Below are a series of sequences. If you're not so keen on analogies, maybe try your logic skills here

1. 46,656 3,125 256 27 ? 1

2. -36 -10 8 18 20 14 ?

3. 3 3 7 8 11 13 15 18 19 ?

4. 3 2 6 4 9 6 12 8 15 ?

5. E O E ? E X N T E N

6. 1 32 81 64 25 ?

7. 13 7 18 10 5 ? 9 1 12 6

8. 62/93, 77/132, 0.5, 115/276, 0.3333, a quarter, 1/6, ?

9. 5 25 61 113 181 265 ?

10. 0 4 18 48 100 180 ?

11. 4 2 8 5 7 1 ?

[spyke252]

1. Vernal, forgot word, asked dictionary.
2. dunno, will check online after
poly for the .5
3. dunno
4. dunno
5. dunno
26 millenia
6.spelunker?
7.disciple?
8. Ischemia?
9. Hector?
10. * : ASTERISK :: 'e'ROTATED180DEGREES :
schwa for sure
thanks choir
11. INDIA, AUSTRALIA, AFRICA, SOUTH AMERICA, ANTARCTICA : GONDWANALAND :: HORSE, ASS, ZEBRA :
ohgod let me think
I know what it is.

HAHA, thank you mr. dictionary that has an example of a genus
Equus
12. Felisiphilia? feline + philia. .5 point at least.
13. Paradox, but if not that I know the answer
14. dunno
deflection is the best guess I can think of
Let me think about the rest

[EI_Tizzy]

For the sequences I figured out:
1) 8 (list of descending cubes)
3) 23 (each succesive pair has an increasing difference)
4) 10 (kind of similar to #3)
6) 6 (1^6, 2^5, 3^4, 4^3, 5^2, ...)
8) have an idea, but no answer yet
11) 4 (they are the decimals for 3/7, which repeat as 428571428571...) DIS WAS MY FAV!!

Have no clue about the rest. Good thing I memorized my sevenths! XPPP

[FoJaR]

1: 4. (6^6, 5^5, 4^4, 3^3, 2^2, 1^1)
9: 365 (difference goes up by 16 each time)

[Vishnal]

Originally Posted by Reach

More Brain Pain: Analogies

Here are some ridiculously hard analogies. You are free to use a dictionary or other resources if you want. Generally there is only one correct answer. I will accept more than one for some. Anyone with an average vocabulary won't get any of these right, so cookies to anyone that can get some of them. Maybe 1/2 points if you're close but not exact.

Oh yea, and if you can help it avoid other peoples answers.

1. FALL : AUTUMNAL :: SPRING : ?

2. ONE : MONO :: FEW : ?

3. LIFE : VITAL :: BIRTH : ?

4. X^2+Y^2=Z^2 : PYTHAGORAS :: X^n+Y^n = Z^n : ?

5. 24 HOURS : ROTATION :: 26,000 YEARS : ?

6. WATER : SWIMMER :: CAVE : ?

7. TAUGHT BY ANOTHER : PUPIL :: TAUGHT BY ONESELF : ?

8. GENERALIZED : LOCALIZED :: ANEMIA : ?

9. TEACHER : MENTOR :: BULLY : ?

10. * : ASTERISK :: 'e'ROTATED180DEGREES :

11. INDIA, AUSTRALIA, AFRICA, SOUTH AMERICA, ANTARCTICA : GONDWANALAND :: HORSE, ASS, ZEBRA : ?

12. FEAR OF STRANGERS : XENOPHOBE :: LOVE OF CATS : ?

13. TINTINNABULATION : ONOMATOPOEA :: BITTERSWEET : ?

14. BEND ONE'S KNEE TO : GENUFLECTION :: TURN ONE'S BACK ON : ?


Edit:

I'll edit individual scores into here. 1 point for a correct answer, 1/2 for a close answer. I won't say which are right or wrong for the sake of the answers, and also don't make a post with just 1 response XD

EI_Tizzy: 3
Silvuh: 1.5
spyke: 5.5

9: TORMENTOR
10: a
12: AILUROPHILE

[Reach]

Good job guys. A lot of good answers.

I think the sequences are a bit easier than the analogies. I tried to make them hard, but alas I can only make sequences so hard without relying on nonsense or ambiguities. It's easier to make really hard analogies.

A hint though, for the analogies:

I've noticed a lot of you arn't paying enough attention to the left side of the analogy. It's there for a reason. If it wasn't I would just ask for another word for such and such. Most of them arn't just 'what is another word for this' (a couple are, the easier ones). You have to use logic to deduce the reasoning behind the analogy itself, which is why a lot of you are turning up lots of 0.5 point answers that only logically follow the right side of the analogy ;p

Specifically 3, 9, 11, 13, 14 appear to be the hardest because they involve a lot of logic along with vocabulary.

[spyke252]

Well, I think I got 13 and 14 wrong based off your statement. Can you PM me those two?

[GuidoHunter]

Is the third analogy not natal? I fail to see what's difficult about that at all.

And, for that matter, 1, 6, 11, and 12.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[Reach]

Originally Posted by GuidoHunter

Is the third analogy not natal? I fail to see what's difficult about that at all.

And, for that matter, 1, 6, 11, and 12.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

Just because you know the answer doesn't mean it isn't hard They're not supposed to be impossible, but hard enough to stump most people on most of them.

1, 6 and 12 arn't all too hard because you can look up the answers pretty easily.

I noone has answered 11 correctly, so I'd like to see your answer guido. Equus ignores the other half of the analogy. And more specifically I would be hard pressed to believe very many people actually have the answer in their vocabulary, and its not all that easy to find, either XD

[GuidoHunter]

Reach, you say 3 is hard and 1 isn't, but they follow the same pattern: just find the adjective form of the noun. I just don't know how 3 requires both logic and a vocabulary.

And is 11 Equidae? If so, I definitely had to look it up, though Amanda might have known it.

Originally Posted by Reach

1, 6 and 12 arn't all too hard because you can look up the answers pretty easily.

Or just have a decent vocabulary (though I admit to knowing #12 from having an interest in phobias as a young one; I've only seen the word once or twice outside of that context)

EDIT: Oh, pfft, totally forgot to put Fermat for #4. I'm also going to guess Zodiac Age for #5, but that was the result of some quick searches, and I have no idea, really.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[xjohnieboyx]

for the number sequences that haven't been solved, I got:

5) R
7) 14
10) 1080

can't seem to figure out 2 :/

[Vishnal]

Originally Posted by Reach

Good job guys. A lot of good answers.

I think the sequences are a bit easier than the analogies. I tried to make them hard, but alas I can only make sequences so hard without relying on nonsense or ambiguities. It's easier to make really hard analogies.

A hint though, for the analogies:

I've noticed a lot of you arn't paying enough attention to the left side of the analogy. It's there for a reason. If it wasn't I would just ask for another word for such and such. Most of them arn't just 'what is another word for this' (a couple are, the easier ones). You have to use logic to deduce the reasoning behind the analogy itself, which is why a lot of you are turning up lots of 0.5 point answers that only logically follow the right side of the analogy ;p

Specifically 3, 9, 11, 13, 14 appear to be the hardest because they involve a lot of logic along with vocabulary.

But on 9, because TEACHER:MENTOR::BULLY

Should the answer not be TORMENTOR, because it has the same word at the end, except a different beginning?

12 is AILUROPHILE because an ailurophile is one who adores cats, just as a xenophobe fears strangers.

11 is NORTH AMERICA because the ancestors of the horse, ass, and zebra all originated from this area in the Paleocine Epoch, just as India, Australia, Africa, South America, and Antarctica originated from the single land mass known as Gondowanaland.

14 is DEFECTION because its definition is betrayal (turning one's back on), just as genuflection is bending the knee to the ground religiously. You can defect from your church, so both can be used religiously.

[Reach]

Tormentor is absolutely the correct answer. It's a better answer than Hector, IMO, but Hector is also acceptable. It's a hard question because many words fit the right side but not the left.

You got 11 and 14 wrong. You are close when you say North America though. (Hint: Gondowanaland doesn't exist anymore)

And is 11 Equidae?

No

Zodiac age isn't #5 either. #5 is interesting...the analogy itself is very basic but few know the answer.

Or just have a decent vocabulary

I suppose, though decent is an understatement. I have a rather large vocabulary but have to rely extensively on a dictionary to solve these, particularily because they're just not common enough for me to have them on the tip of my tongue.

That and the majority of my vocabulary is words I would use while writing, where as this tests a lot of obscure name knowledge (and thus is probably the most 'riddle' like thing I've posted here so far ).

[Vishnal]

Originally Posted by Reach

Tormentor is absolutely the correct answer. It's a better answer than Hector, IMO, but Hector is also acceptable. It's a hard question because many words fit the right side but not the left.

You got 11 and 14 wrong.



No

Zodiac age isn't #5 either. #5 is interesting...the analogy itself is very basic but few know the answer.



I suppose, though decent is an understatement. I have a rather large vocabulary but have to rely extensively on a dictionary to solve these, particularily because they're just not common enough for me to have them on the tip of my tongue.

11: My next guess would be EOHIPPUS/HYRACOTHERIUM, the earliest ancestor of the horse, ass, and zebra. Just as Gondowanaland (Now called Gondowana) was the basis of the listed countries/continents, or the "ancestor" of their modern formations.

[Reach]

EOHIPPUS is correct. North America did not diverge to give a horse, ass, ect >__>. Also, North america still exists. Two reasons why it is a bad answer.