I got BanYa

[00Razor00]

Here's the email they sent me back(Copied and pasted from my email). With Links they sent me and the whole enchilada. The Contact email for PIU is info@andamiro.com



From info@andamiro.com

Dear, Zerato_900@hotmail.com
Access to, and Privileges for BanYa's music are limited. You are welcome to use any song
from the BanYa collection. But, please be aware that infringement of BanYa's music will
lead to prosecution.

http://www.piugame.com/nx/eng/main.htmp
http://www.piu4home.com/index2.html
http://piugame.com/en/main.html

Sent 2:16AM ; Saturday May 26th, 2007
____________________________________________
ORGINIAL MESSAGE
Sent 4:12PM ; Friday, May 18th, 2007

Just wanted to ask if i can use songs from the BanYa Group, for a site called
www.flashflashrevolution.com -- The DDR/ITG simulator -- Not asking for anything big
but just for a couple of songs from the PIU series. MP3 files for the songs won't be avaialble
for download, thus excluding the risk of pilating music.

[DrugstoreCowboy]

they're scary.
dont infringe anybody!

[SulferDragon]

Are you serious?

[macgravel]

Cool?

[spinal_compression]

Yay we got BanYa. Now I have to learn how to step songs...

[itmorr]

Nice!

[SulferDragon]

I just wish I was a bigger fan of BanYa. Maybe I try to step Csikos Post... hmm.

[jugglinguy]

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BanYa is the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oo gonna step moonlight(with mixmaster), vook, Bullfighters song, Canon-D if we have permission for those ones that is. uhmm.. i'll think of more later. rofl i like them too much :)

Also does this mean we could use Yahpp? In that case I'll do a 10x's better Chimera. How would we avoid copyrights, if we can use any song?

[brothaice]

Yeah their response email isnt really clear

[Synthlight]

Here's the email they sent me back(Copied and pasted from my email). With Links they sent me and the whole enchilada. The Contact email for PIU is info@andamiro.com



From info@andamiro.com

Dear, Zerato_900@hotmail.com
Access to, and Privileges for BanYa's music are limited. You are welcome to use any song
from the BanYa collection. But, please be aware that infringement of BanYa's music will
lead to prosecution.

http://www.piugame.com/nx/eng/main.htmp
http://www.piu4home.com/index2.html
http://piugame.com/en/main.html

Sent 2:16AM ; Saturday May 25th, 2007
____________________________________________
ORGINIAL MESSAGE
Sent 4:12PM ; Friday, May 18th, 2007

Just wanted to ask if i can use songs from the BanYa Group, for a site called
www.flashflashrevolution.com -- The DDR/ITG simulator -- Not asking for anything big
but just for a couple of songs from the PIU series. MP3 files for the songs won't be avaialble
for download, thus excluding the risk of pilating music.

Forward the email to our ffrcontact email address.

Cheers,

Synthlight

[jugglinguy]

http://piugame.com/nx/eng/main.htm for the last link.

Yahpp is now not the main guy of BanYa, but he did songs on his own. So that makes me wander if we can use Yahpp as well?

[Nyokou]

Omfg... omfg.

<33 Jesse, ily

[MixMasterLar]

Me and Jugglin are confussed at that email....Here's what we got :


heyitsme975 [1:57 PM]: i still don't understand
heyitsme975 [1:57 PM]: how we wouldn't get prosecuted...
heyitsme975 [1:57 PM]: he said infringement results in prosecution..
heyitsme975 [1:57 PM]: but he said we can use all songs?
MixMasterLarB [1:58 PM]: lemme read it again...
MixMasterLarB [1:58 PM]: ok here's what I get:
MixMasterLarB [1:58 PM]: Access to, and Privileges for BanYa's music are limited = CANT HAVE ALL SONGS BE-YONCH
heyitsme975 [1:59 PM]: LOL
heyitsme975 [1:59 PM]: but which ones can't we have?
MixMasterLarB [1:59 PM]: You are welcome to use any song
from the BanYa collection= ONLY FROM CD THAT WER HAVE LISTED ON WIKI BE-YONCH
heyitsme975 [1:59 PM]: BanYa Collection?
MixMasterLarB [1:59 PM]: But, please be aware that infringement of BanYa's music will
lead to prosecution. = IF PEOPLE DL THE THE SONGS THEN WE KILL YOUR WALLET
heyitsme975 [2:00 PM]: lol

Whattya guys think? I HAVE some stepped BanYa songs if that's what it means

[jugglinguy]

heyitsme975: it says that we are welcome to use any music from BanYa. But we could commit infringement somehow..
heyitsme975: Do you have a clue how we could commit infringement if we have rights to all of their songs?
Is_my_name_clever: it's impossible to commit infringement with permission
heyitsme975: so i should have nothing to worry about if i submit a BanYa song
Is_my_name_clever: nothing to worry about at all, really... if there's something that wrong they'd just take it down

[Tasselfoot]

Synth and I are still unsure as to what that email means. Please follow Synth's instructions so that we can continue to figure this out from our end.

As of now, you can submit BanYa songs... and they can make the queue. but they won't go into the game until we have something more concrete.

don't forget the issue with B-Virus.

[Anonymouse]

Marry me.

Oh god stepping Blazing or Canon-D oh god oh god.

-Blazze

[fido123]

LOL Blazze and his shenanigans.

I love most BanYa songs...This is ganna be awsome =D

[Nyokou]

I want to step a BanYa song, but somehow, I kinda doubt that we got permission for these songs.

SOLID EVIDENCE PLEASE!

[Triplex72]

Maybe now you guys could make Mr. Larpus available to the everyone >.<

[dore]

I want to step a BanYa song, but somehow, I kinda doubt that we got permission for these songs.

SOLID EVIDENCE PLEASE!

Likewise.

Multiple files coming from me if we actually get solid proof of permission. :)

[Nyokou]

I'm working on Pump Me Amadeu.

:O

Don't do it! Mine. ;x

[MixMasterLar]

From what I got, We have premission for all BanYa songs UP TO Exeed2.

It would probably help if you would tell me what happened with B-Virus. It was before my time and everybody treats it like FFR's dirty little secret "dude, let's not go there!"

PS stepping D-Gang, Rosa, and, if I get an MP3, Nightmare

[hyperxtrance]

I started Pump Me Amadeus already :x
Its my olddddd file.

[Xception704]

Canon-D ... is that like Canon IN D? I would love it if it made it into the game ...

[jugglinguy]

K so far i'm almost done with vook and started on extravaganza and Csiko's post

[MixMasterLar]

Canon-D ... is that like Canon IN D? I would love it if it made it into the game ...

Well, it has rock in it...but yeah.

The best Canon in D remix IMO, tho the PiU version's a little short, there is a 6 minunt version somewere......

PS Hate to be a hog, but BEAT OF THE WAR 2

[Nyokou]

Well, if it's your old file, then it probably isn't that good, lmao.

Mine is coming along great. :]

[Xception704]

Hah! I feel like an idiot for not noticing it at first.

"Pump Me Amadeus" Refers to Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart. Didn't realize it until I heard the song ... heh.


Couldn't find the Canon-D though ... =(

[Coolboyrulez0]

If we have solid proof that we have BanYa's permission it's gonna be awesome.

=)
cßr

[jugglinguy]

Well, it has rock in it...but yeah.

The best Canon in D remix IMO, tho the PiU version's a little short, there is a 6 minunt version somewere......

PS Hate to be a hog, but BEAT OF THE WAR 2

There's a longer version of Canon D in the remix station, which is wayyyyyyy better than the normal one.

[Afrobean]

Maybe now you guys could make Mr. Larpus available to the everyone >.<
No... get someone to restep it and everyone will go "wtf" when it's a v2. Seriously though, it does deserve a restep if only for colored arrows and perfect sync.

Also, can we finally get a Winter remix in the game or what? We got permission for K@ME's, and Tank101 even stepped it, but it never made it in somehow.

[hyperxtrance]

BRB. Stepping Winter.

[Xception704]

Canon-D IS a remix of the classical Canon in D ... I would love it if a version of it got into FFR. I already have 2 versions for SM (one's a Speedy mix) and having it on FFR would definitely make me a very happy person. =)

[Nyokou]

Hah! I feel like an idiot for not noticing it at first.

"Pump Me Amadeus" Refers to Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart. Didn't realize it until I heard the song ... heh.


Couldn't find the Canon-D though ... =(

Yeah, forgot the S, my bad.

How could you not know that? It's pretty damn obvious, rofl.

And it's a good song.. I played it on Exceed all the time.. T_T Until they sold the machine! Damn you DDR for being easier and more popular!

[MooMoo_Cowfreak]

Making a Mr. Larpus.

It's coming out well.

[MixMasterLar]

There's a longer version of Canon D in the remix station, which is wayyyyyyy better than the normal one.

That's only the 4min one

Im talking about the awesome 6+ min one that isnt in the game


Mr Larpus: V2!

What are you talking about?


Got D-Gang done, will sent it later when I had to time double check the sync (My SM was laggin' today...)

[eastsideman09]

ill just go ahead and remake steps for Monkey Fingers

and ill make steps for Bee, and Final Audition-Omega Mix-

[jugglinguy]

k Vook and Csiko's Post are done but need a few touch ups, onto Will O' The Wisp i guess and/or Extravaganza.

[Tasselfoot]

Afro: V1 is in the game. not all that hard... but it's a Winter mix.

[pokelda]

Making a Mr. Larpus.

It's coming out well.

larpus is already in the ga-shot-

[00Razor00]

Sorry if it wasn't clear enough. I emailed them again asking for
some sort of Permission Blanket. And i'll post back sayin' what i got from them.


EDIT -- As for the whole infringment thing, their basically saying
just don't take credit for making the song, and that type of stuff.

Like as in saying, you CREATED Will-O-The-Wisp, when it's REALLY made
by BanYa.

[hyperxtrance]

what..?

[Xception704]

Don't say you made the song. When the song is put into FFR, it shows the SONG Artist and the STEPFILE artist.

Don't claim that you're the SONG Artist and you're good to go.

At least, that's what I got from 00Razor00's post.

[Shashakiro]

in other words don't do something that we've never done and will never do

forward that last one to tass and synth too

[hyperxtrance]

OH i see.

[brothaice]

Almost done with Winter :)

[00Razor00]

You better make Winter, REALLY Challenging. Cuase I <3 that song

[hyperxtrance]

I havent started Winter yet. )':
I'm too busy trying to sync Canon-D. x.x

[Nightfirecat]

LOL Blazze and his shenanigans.

I love most BanYa songs...This is ganna be awsome =D

no kidding about blazze...

BanYa is pretty good in my opinion, it would be good to see more of them come towards FFR...

[00Razor00]

I'm stepping Will-O... Already Finished.
Maybe stepping FAEP. 1

[MixMasterLar]

in other words don't do something that we've never done and will never do

forward that last one to tass and synth too

I assume we'll all ready to go then.

IF SOMEONE HAS AN MP3 OF BANyA'S NIGHTMARE PLEASE PM ME

Thanks

[MooMoo_Cowfreak]

larpus is already in the ga-shot-

Ya I know but it doesn't count.

[jugglinguy]

I'm stepping Will-O... Already Finished.
Maybe stepping FAEP. 1

wow, i guess i should just stop stepping mine, just when i thought mine was getting good.

And razor, about Yahpp, do we have permission for his stuff, since he was a part of banya? If so I'm doing FAEP 2-1

no one do extravaganza either, finished it but touching up. Probably will do witch doctor, or FAEP 2-1 if we can do yahpp as previously mentioned.

[00Razor00]

wow, i guess i should just stop stepping mine, just when i thought mine was getting good.

And razor, about Yahpp, do we have permission for his stuff, since he was a part of banya? If so I'm doing FAEP 2-1

no one do extravaganza either, finished it but touching up. Probably will do witch doctor, or FAEP 2-1 if we can do yahpp as previously mentioned.

LOL, go ahead and keep stepping yours. Obviously, Shash and Tass are
going to play it and find which one's better.

I dont know about Yahpp's stuff. If he has an E-mail, I'd send him.
But I'll def get back to you on that. ** Searching for Yahpp's email**

I wonder if someone will step the ENTIRE Final Audition Series, Including U.F
If so, please do a good job. rofl

[brothaice]

You better make Winter, REALLY Challenging. Cuase I <3 that song

Im done, and its hard <3

[Synthlight]

LOL, go ahead and keep stepping yours. Obviously, Shash and Tass are
going to play it and find which one's better.

I dont know about Yahpp's stuff. If he has an E-mail, I'd send him.
But I'll def get back to you on that. ** Searching for Yahpp's email**

I wonder if someone will step the ENTIRE Final Audition Series, Including U.F
If so, please do a good job. rofl

Before everyone gets stephappy, I have not received a single forwarded email from either Razor or Banya.

Cheers,

Synthlight

[Xception704]

Forward already ... I want Canon-D! =)

[thechild]

GAH! everybody are taking the good songs.. W/e, I'm just gonna step Turkey March *or w/e its called*

[jugglinguy]

TIRE Final Audition Series, Including U.F
If so, please do a good job. rofl

I'll do it! I have nothing better to do. Hopefully i can find all of the mp3s :) Expect them all done in about a week (would be done faster but the tourney takes time)

[Tasselfoot]

i haven't gotten anything else.

please forward any contact emails to both Mike.pollack@flashflashrevolution.com and ffrcontact@gmail.com

[Afrobean]

Wouldn't it be possible for you guys to actively contact the email address yourself rather than waiting to get secondhand info from some random member?

[Tasselfoot]

yes. but at the same time, we don't want to be sending multiple requests of the same nature to one artist. i know it would annoy me if some random website did that to me... would also make me think they weren't very organized, which would put doubt in my mind.

[travman301]

OMG, I love the Banya songs. But you guys are right with being cautious with this. The last thing we need is another BV.

[hyperxtrance]

Razor better be telling the truth of him getting BanYa's permisson.
I'm going to be so pissed if he lied.

[Nyokou]

Well, even if we don't have permission, I'll put my sim in the database, rofl.

[00Razor00]

Wouldn't it be possible for you guys to actively contact the email address yourself rather than waiting to get secondhand info from some random member?

Exactly, that can always be done. But seeming as some people are
just not willing to answer back, it'll take ages getting a response back
from Andamiro. Just like i waited about 7-8 days before getting one.

But on the other hand, I sent an email that I'll FWD to Tass.

[Tasselfoot]

forward the entire email chain to the 2 email addresses that were listed above.


should include your original email, the reply from banya, etc etc etc. EVERY email... and should all be in 1 email that gets forwarded to us. that way we can read the whole conversation with ease.

[brothaice]

We really need to get this straightend out to a Yes or No answer.

[MixMasterLar]

We really need to get this straightend out to a Yes or No answer.

Agree'ed

We have enough BanYa on simDB and BMS, FFR needs some

[hyperxtrance]

This is annoying.
Just forward the e-mail to Tass, Razor.
Clear everything out and prove that you actually did get permission from BanYa.

[jugglinguy]

ok, i have Final Audition 1 to finish up, which i will if matrixdude ever finishes his part.

So all i need is Final Audition 3 U.F., if anyone has the mp3 please send it to me through AIM.

[Silver_Brian]

I'm inclined to step a song if this permission ever gets straightened out.

[Shashmakito]

It'd be great if Banya let us use their music.

[00Razor00]

Allright, I sent the 3 E-MAILS that was in the ENTIRE CONVERSATION VIA Yahoo. My Hotmail, was being stupid and it cleared out all of my SENT FOLDER which had them. Had them backed up, just in case.

Point Blank : They've been SENT to Tass and Synth.

[brothaice]

K gud =]

[hyperxtrance]

cool.

[brothaice]

Tass post pls

[Tasselfoot]

*shrugs* yes... forwarded to us... but i believe synth and i would still like more clarification from BanYa. need something more.

also... yes... you sent me THREE emails... when i asked you to send all of that stuff to me in ONE email.

[Shashmakito]

lol <3

[hyperxtrance]

haha

[00Razor00]

Oops. ROFL my bad Tass. I asked them for a link to their music files or something related to all the music they've created. Hopefully, I'll get a response.

[MixMasterLar]

Dont hold your breath....

...same goes with the step artist, this has gotten messy

[brothaice]

Yay

or

Nay

[00Razor00]

Here's another email I got from them. Maybe this could help. I'll FWD to Tass.


>From info@Andamiro.com

Dear, Zerato_900@hotmail.com

Here are a couple of links that lead to BanYa's Mp3 files.

http://piu.tioplus.com/piu_main_index.php#
This site is enbedded in Japanese. The only way to download
one of the Mp3's is by joining the site and becoming a member.
There are 4 sections of BanYa's music. When you download them you will notice that they are labeled chronologically. (Based on Exceed's Debut)
(07/22/2006, 06/14/2004 , 04/19/2004 , 06/10/2003.)

http://www.m-g-z.com/showdown_ost.asp?ost=7110&sm=m
This link also leads to 18 of BanYa's Mp3's. You may download these
at any point in time. No restrictions. Some of the site's news is in Japanese as well. You might want enable your PC's/Labtop's translator, to reveal the English translation.


sent Sunday, June 9th 01:01EST
IP : 206.6.154.209
________________________
ORIGINAL MESSAGE
sent Monday , June 1,2007 12:34MDT
_________________________
> Would you, by any chance have links to some of your musical databases
or sites that have MP3's of BanYa's music. If so i'd be aprreciated.

IP : 24.242.6.201

[MixMasterLar]

Man, it looks good to me

Synth, Tass, Jason? What do you guys think?

[Afrobean]

wow...

Seems pretty fake to me. Not only would I not believe that BanYa would give out MP3s like that, BUT THE SITES ARE IN KOREAN AND CHINESE RETARD

[brothaice]

Im pretty sure its real, at least, I hope it is.

[bmah]

Originally Posted by afrobean
Mr Larpus: V2!

What are you talking about?


Well, Mr. Larpus USED to be on FFR a long time ago but doesn't exist anymore. The stepfile was full of offbeat trills.
I don't mind seeing a return of this song.

[brothaice]

Good, cause a REALLY want me file in the game ^.^

[00Razor00]

Here's another email I got from them. Maybe this could help. I'll FWD to Tass.


>From info@Andamiro.com

Dear, Zerato_900@hotmail.com

Here are a couple of links that lead to BanYa's Mp3 files.

http://piu.tioplus.com/piu_main_index.php#
This site is enbedded in Japanese. The only way to download
one of the Mp3's is by joining the site and becoming a member.
There are 4 sections of BanYa's music. When you download them you will notice that they are labeled chronologically. (Based on Exceed's Debut)
(07/22/2006, 06/14/2004 , 04/19/2004 , 06/10/2003.)

http://www.m-g-z.com/showdown_ost.asp?ost=7110&sm=m
This link also leads to 18 of BanYa's Mp3's. You may download these
at any point in time. No restrictions. Some of the site's news is in Japanese as well. You might want enable your PC's/Labtop's translator, to reveal the English translation.


sent Sunday, June 9th 01:01EST
IP : 206.6.154.209
________________________
ORIGINAL MESSAGE
sent Monday , June 1,2007 12:34MDT
_________________________
> Would you, by any chance have links to some of your musical databases
or sites that have MP3's of BanYa's music. If so i'd be aprreciated.

IP : 24.242.6.201



THE SITES IN CHINESE RETARD

THAT'S WHY THEY SAID ENABLE YOUR GODDAMN TRANSLATOR
AND YEAH. ARTISTS DO HAVE SITES THAT LET YOU DOWNLOAD THEIR MP3'S
HENCE SOUNDCLICK.COM. HENCE DMASHURA.COM HENCE SOUNDBEAT.COM
YOU MUST BE A MOTHERF'UCKING IDIOT IF YOU CANT UNDERSTAND, THAT ARTISTS DO LET PEOPLE DOWNLOAD THEIR WORK OFF SITE'S LIKE THE ONE'S MENTIONED ABOVE.

[Tasselfoot]

i believe afro was saying that:

a) banya is a japanese band.
b) the email says the sites are in japanese

but

c) the sites are: 1) in chinese 2) the other in korean

please correct me if that is not correct, afro? and could someone else please verify that the two sites are in fact NOT in japanese?

[flashMaster10]

1st site confirmed korean. 90% sure other one is simplified chinese.. THNX ALTAVISTA BABELFISH! lol :P tried alot of different words on there to check.

EDIT: ok 100% sure now that its fake.. sry for poopin on ur guy's party :P

[Afrobean]

BanYa is not Japanese. BanYa is Korean.

The first site is definitely Korean. The second is some kind of Chinese.

I mean, it is possible that the only English speaking rep for Banya is completely retarded when it comes to Eastern Languages, but I'd hope that they'd at least know what country the band is from and not simply assume "Japan".

[Tasselfoot]

my bad on the korean vs japanese thing.

but.... yea. that definitely doesn't seem right. if a band is going to have a contact, that contact has gotta have at least a nugget of sense.

i'll talk about it more with synth... but i really can't accept information from that source as credible.

[MixMasterLar]

Razor, link us to were you got the email "info@Adamiro.com". That might help out.

Quite flankly I'm starting to see way Tass doesnt just say yes, The first email does say clearly that we can use it but Tass is unsure if BanYa is the one telling us yes in the first place. Razor, what site did you get that link from?!?!

[Afrobean]

my bad on the korean vs japanese thing.

but.... yea. that definitely doesn't seem right. if a band is going to have a contact, that contact has gotta have at least a nugget of sense.

i'll talk about it more with synth... but i really can't accept information from that source as credible.
Just cut out this middle man bull**** and contact them yourself and explain the situation.

[windsurfer-sp]

Unfourantely this drama is not quite 100% adding up, linking to a 3rd party for mp3's and not really having much of a specific song list that is acceptable to use....

I hope Banya get into FFR, as they are one of my favourite artists in my SM collection. Thanks for the effort eitheir way it goes Razor and others.

[Neonatrias]

Razor, what site did you get that link from?!?!

I caught a mental image of Phoenix Wright slamming his hands on the desk right about here. Just thought I'd share that and derail this thread even more.

Razor, get things straightened out. And keep in mind if you're falsifying this, you're probably gonna be the one taking the fall.

[Pichu_XP]

Haha the latest e-mail pretty much proved that this is fake.

Or did it?

[brothaice]

Damn, can we please just get this straightend out.

Tass is there any way someone (an admin) could re-e-email BanYa with out reflecting negativaly on FFR?

[MixMasterLar]

OMG This is crazy...

Just cut out this middle man bull**** and contact them yourself and explain the situation.

To put it frankly, I agree that at this point that might be best, but I do agree that if it is BanYa then that wouldnt look good-----IF it's BanYa

Unfourantely this drama is not quite 100% adding up, linking to a 3rd party for mp3's and not really having much of a specific song list that is acceptable to use....

The 3rd party MP3s is what kills it for me, I see them not linking to Yahpp's site but I think that BanYa would've either said "Let me send you some stuff" or "Yeah only these have fun" and left it at that

I caught a mental image of Phoenix Wright slamming his hands on the desk right about here. Just thought I'd share that and derail this thread even more.

Never played the game, sorry.

Tass, is there any way someone (an admin) could re-e-email BanYa with out reflecting negativaly on FFR?

Hmmm...


BanYa,

I have received an email explaining that FFR member Razor has ask, and been granted, premission to use your songs for the flash rythm game FFR. As owner and main programmer of the game and site, I would like to verify that this email is legit. I know that you are busy and I'm sorry for making this request seem like dogging, but I would like to receive an email from you stating if this is correct

Cheers,

Synthlight (as told by Lar)

......

If he can write better then me, then I think yes.

[brothaice]

Well could we do that then?

[SulferDragon]

Wow, I haven't looked at this thread for awhile. ****! Why the hell did I step Csikos Post?

Just finish this already, and give us a yes or no.

[Synthlight]

This thread smells of lies. My years of experience are giving me bad vibes and have been from the first moment I asked for verification.

Razor, forward that last email along with the headers and all info along to Tass (not a copy-paste). Inability to do so will result in us locking this thread and punishment on your account. We have been drawn through enough crap.

Cheers,

Synthlight

[brothaice]

Synth, did you by any chance look at the end of MixMasterLar's post?

[Coolboyrulez0]

Oh my. This is the first time Ive seen Synth angree.

But serouisly. Are you just trying to mess with us? This is not funny.
If you got Banyas permission GREAT. If not then Ok but quit lying then.

cßr

[MixMasterLar]

Synthlight has spoken! Just go ahead and release your BanYa files Ladies an' Gents cuz there's no point in hoping that they will make it in.

*sob.....* Jugglin and me made such a great BotW2, too *sits in corner*