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aleco
01-27-2004, 03:46 PM
^_^ I'm like 840. Not that great.

Reach
01-27-2004, 04:16 PM
21

talisman
01-27-2004, 04:18 PM
54

not sure how though.

(I've been around longer than reach... word.)

Nima
01-27-2004, 04:19 PM
2nd wtf? The only way someone could be higher than me is if they a) hacked b) got lots of scores on easy levels which I'm guessing is what happened since I don't really play them much

Brainmaster07
01-27-2004, 04:25 PM
45th? weak.

Moogy
01-27-2004, 04:25 PM
225

makaveli121212
01-27-2004, 04:28 PM
28...how does this rank work...overall points, overall credits?

Nima
01-27-2004, 04:55 PM
ya that's what i'm wondering too... cause overall points would be dumb. It should be something like 1000/your rank on a level multiplied by the difficulty of the level and then the overall score of those levels added up.

makaveli121212
01-27-2004, 05:03 PM
well i dont play that mich ffr so its kinda wierd that i would even be in the top 50 if it was just based on points

chardish
01-27-2004, 05:04 PM
It's probably based on Grand Total Score...which is a really inaccurate way of doing things. Makaveli is NOT better than me ;)

Cenright
01-27-2004, 05:14 PM
Nima, of course you are second. Did you forget about AO and those wonderful skills of his?

Of course, even AO doesn't compare to me.

Synthlight
01-27-2004, 05:22 PM
Overall rank is based on grandtotal.. unfortunately anything else would require a massive amount of database queries. I will think it over a bit but cannot do much more right now. Just took about 15 minutes to make the feature.

Cheers,

Synthlight

TehWhack
01-27-2004, 05:24 PM
40th, but now that I figured out what it's based on...... it's not all that worth it O_O

dehumanised
01-27-2004, 05:29 PM
116th. Total score's something in the region of 310 million.

After verification, I'm actually 114th, and my score's a touch over 320M.

~Drew~

tnyhwk900
01-27-2004, 05:38 PM
I was gonna say...

833? WTF?

Cause i just did this.
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/modules/PNphpBB2/files/ffrglitch.jpg

Cenright
01-27-2004, 05:48 PM
Nima, of course you are second. Did you forget about AO and those wonderful skills of his?

Of course, even AO doesn't compare to me.


Actually I am ranked 169th, not first. I didnít use psp though on the pic. It actually gave it to me like that. (Picture is on first page)

When those Database errors happen, it can't calculate your rank, so if you get on the game a split second before the database goes out (which you can't plan) you are the only name in the 'stand-alone' database known as your computer, and so it ranks you first

Nima
01-27-2004, 06:02 PM
Ok, so I'm actually number 1. But Cenright you're wrong AO isn't number 1, because if it's by total score, mine is a) higher. If it is by normal standings, I am still higher BY FAR. AO would be like 30th. He has no good scores except for OMW, which he beat my by a bit, everything else sucks. So he shouldn't be number 1 even if he was.

Anyways synth what's wrong with this idea:
TOTAL RANK:
((10000(or some other arbitary number))/(FFR rank on a certain song)) * (DIFFICULTY OF THE SONG) * ALL SONGS

Freak83
01-27-2004, 06:18 PM
I'm ranked 127... not that good but a lot higher than I was expecting... well considering there's like 200 000+ players I guess it it better than I was thinking.

altairian
01-27-2004, 06:20 PM
12th
yay me i guess?

makaveli121212
01-27-2004, 06:33 PM
btw chardish i am better than you

aleco
01-27-2004, 06:42 PM
Yeah, I've played like 500 games so I don't have much reason to be ranked well.

Chromer
01-27-2004, 06:44 PM
I am #68 . Its funny comparing to the point that I played this game almost 2000 times already.

lightdarkness
01-27-2004, 07:10 PM
on lightdarkness im two hundered something
on ld42 im in the 1,000's i gotta play more on my challenge account

insomniakxz
01-27-2004, 07:20 PM
#170 or so

chardish
01-27-2004, 07:39 PM
Synth what's wrong with simply adding all the player's Best Ranks together? Guy with lowest number gets 1st place, and so on.

Lupin_the_3rd
01-27-2004, 07:43 PM
if he did that (chardish) then all the songs would have to start at a common rank (or else somebody could play 2 songs and be 1st or something

Anticrombie0909
01-27-2004, 08:03 PM
Like 311th. I'm actually suprised it was that high, considering I don't play that often and I'm not that good (read:I suck).

MannequinDepressive
01-27-2004, 08:19 PM
Omg, I'm 11th!

I'm very surprised and happy =)

PSyCHOtic779
01-27-2004, 09:38 PM
61, i find it odd don't you think?

Arch0wl
01-27-2004, 09:50 PM
854

So far I am the lowest out of all of you!

I play FFR the least which means I am the coolest. Respect, biatch.

chillywilly
01-27-2004, 10:13 PM
854

So far I am the lowest out of all of you!

I play FFR the least which means I am the coolest. Respect, biatch.


8354! yep! that makes me 7500 more cooler than you!

banditcom
01-27-2004, 10:26 PM
787 after 471 games... although in the last 125 games, I've only played about 20 real ones.. other ones were messing around with different things. :P

Synthlight
01-27-2004, 10:29 PM
Nima,

You suggested the formula below. I will not even touch the results of such a formula as they may be fine.

((10000(or some other arbitary number))/(FFR rank on a certain song)) * (DIFFICULTY OF THE SONG) * ALL SONGS

Here is the problem with this though from a technical standpoint. You have somewhere between 70-100 songs in FFR depending on who you talk to. :) Now remember that anytime I have to fetch data from the database this takes up CPU time and hard drive time. To check your rank on each song I would have to look at the table for that song, find your name, calculate rank and then move onto the next song and do the same until we reach the end (lets say 80 songs).. So what this means is 80 queries that we must execute on the database compared to about 3-4 that are normally executed when you start FFR.

Now.. lets take 80 and multiple by the times FFR gets played in a single day. We are going to say an average of 130,000 times a day. That comes to somewhere around 12 million extra queries a day. That would probably bring us to the limit of this server. I have to be careful with these things and always think on a larger scale.

Now with that I am already thinking of some other ways to come to the same result without all the hard work. Maybe I make a new field in the database that holds peoples rankings, run a file late at night that generates the rankings and then every 12 or 24 hours after that it updates the rankings.. Just brainstorming.

Cheers,

Synthlight

lightdarkness
01-27-2004, 10:33 PM
synth, your last part was my idea EXACTLY
run a query at 5am when the site is least populated,
see my post in the suggestion section :)

plasmix
01-27-2004, 10:37 PM
I am #61.

Gnik
01-27-2004, 10:42 PM
Nima,

You suggested the formula below. I will not even touch the results of such a formula as they may be fine.

((10000(or some other arbitary number))/(FFR rank on a certain song)) * (DIFFICULTY OF THE SONG) * ALL SONGS

Here is the problem with this though from a technical standpoint. You have somewhere between 70-100 songs in FFR depending on who you talk to. :) Now remember that anytime I have to fetch data from the database this takes up CPU time and hard drive time. To check your rank on each song I would have to look at the table for that song, find your name, calculate rank and then move onto the next song and do the same until we reach the end (lets say 80 songs).. So what this means is 80 queries that we must execute on the database compared to about 3-4 that are normally executed when you start FFR.

Now.. lets take 80 and multiple by the times FFR gets played in a single day. We are going to say an average of 130,000 times a day. That comes to somewhere around 12 million extra queries a day. That would probably bring us to the limit of this server. I have to be careful with these things and always think on a larger scale.

Now with that I am already thinking of some other ways to come to the same result without all the hard work. Maybe I make a new field in the database that holds peoples rankings, run a file late at night that generates the rankings and then every 12 or 24 hours after that it updates the rankings.. Just brainstorming.

Cheers,

Synthlight

Perhaps an easier way to do this would be to have a "total best score" variable saved for each player made up of all your high scores added together. After you calculated it the first time, when someone beat their previous record, you would just have to adjust the total by the difference, instead of recalculating the whole thing, and save the new value.
Every couple months you could retabulate it (and it has to be done once before it's implemented) and make sure it was accurate or something, but it's pretty hands off. If you tossed out the old "grand total score" the number of queries stays exacly the same.

peregrine
01-27-2004, 10:47 PM
here's an idea I'm musing with... why not have some sort of seeding process (tournament, or current ranks) that people can opt to be in or not. Then just run a ladder-type competition with those ranks based on rank challenges. That will rank people according to skill (and occasionally luck on a song) and prevent some from playing say... halcyon (nothing against the song), 50 million times to get a higher score.

Also, only those who are concerned with their rank will be seeded/participate in the ladder, so it might actually save some CPU time due to massively reduced traffic.

Just a thought, some tweaking and it might work well.

EDEdDNEdDYFaN
01-27-2004, 11:16 PM
157 ololol

Jello
01-28-2004, 04:14 AM
Im 8th. thats all i gotta say and oh yea. damn cenright. to many points jesus. lol

altairian
01-28-2004, 07:20 AM
cenright had 277 million... i have 680 million... he already explained the bug, try reading? =\

chillywilly
01-28-2004, 07:24 AM
how about-- total points divided by total games

alainbryden
01-28-2004, 10:28 AM
I'm 13th. And that won't work chilly, for reasons posted in the other topic like this one.

AnythingCrimson
01-28-2004, 12:32 PM
Im 127 8)

DreamSDK
01-28-2004, 01:18 PM
I'm 87th.

Kilgamayan
01-28-2004, 04:24 PM
256, I think.

I'm not sure Total Points/Total games would work because none of the levels have the same AAA scores.

Yanah_God
01-28-2004, 04:29 PM
i have only played 200 games on this account, so i'm only rank 2010

aleco
01-28-2004, 05:13 PM
Sweet! I moved way up to "notworking"!

Musical_Master
01-28-2004, 05:18 PM
Sweet! I moved way up to "notworking"!

Darn it I am tied with you :lol:

Lupin_the_3rd
01-28-2004, 05:21 PM
is that like short for: notworking(hardenough)?

makaveli121212
01-28-2004, 06:51 PM
well though i dont like to say so, but as it is, its a pretty useless figure

ragman
01-28-2004, 07:00 PM
nima, you egotistical bastard, you can't settle with the fact that someone is an even bigger loser than you are?

Yanah_God
01-28-2004, 07:01 PM
nima, you egotistical bastard, you can't settle with the fact that someone is an even bigger loser than you are?

wtf?

that was 2 pages ago




NEWBIE QUoTE!

ragman
01-28-2004, 07:03 PM
yeah, it was, who cares, this kid's still a loser, he needs to stop acting like he's the shit just because he can play a game better than everyone here

Yanah_God
01-28-2004, 07:09 PM
my advice: don't have that attitude, it's very, very old and practically every newbie and forum lurker have that same attitude

ragman
01-28-2004, 07:14 PM
ouch, the classic newbie insult, i'm very hurt. what's next, a joke about my mom?

Yanah_God
01-28-2004, 07:20 PM
did I insult you?

...

nevermind, if you think I did, then you deserve it. Go away before you become another ThunderClaw

ragman
01-28-2004, 07:23 PM
who's thunderclaw? you don't think you insulted me by implying that i was a newbie? has this become such a routine of boosting your ego and saving your dignity by calling random people "newbie"? i don't know about you, but that sounds pretty pathetic to me.

Yanah_God
01-28-2004, 07:24 PM
...


wtf?


dude, stop doing that. it's really really old. please, PLEASE listen to me.

ragman
01-28-2004, 07:27 PM
stop doing what, making you look stupid?

Yanah_God
01-28-2004, 07:29 PM
You are not making me lok stupid. Trust me, before you make yourself look stupid, stop it. People have already done this, and it got really annoying. Please, I just don't want another person arguing with me for pages for no good reason. You have no reason to hate me. And I won't have any reason to hate you if you stop this right here.

ragman
01-28-2004, 07:30 PM
i don't hate you, i hate nima, and you defended the idiot.

Yanah_God
01-28-2004, 07:32 PM
Fine then, start hating Nima again. I didn't defend him, cause I don't give a rat's ass how good he is. I just don't want an argument like this happening. Yarr... I should really learn to shut up.

Kilgamayan
01-28-2004, 07:33 PM
Kiddies, settle down. Everyone knows Nima has an ego larger than most here, there's no reason to argue about it.

ragman
01-28-2004, 07:33 PM
who cares, the kid's a bastard, i hate people that act like him.

aleco
01-28-2004, 08:15 PM
Stop messing up my thread!

Jello
01-28-2004, 08:54 PM
ragman your the idiot. grow up , be mature, shut the hell up and stop.

chardish
01-28-2004, 10:12 PM
if he did that (chardish) then all the songs would have to start at a common rank (or else somebody could play 2 songs and be 1st or something

Well I think everyone's default rank is tied for last. So you get 1+1+30,000+30,000 etc. and that pretty much shoots your chances of getting a decent rank.

qualy
01-28-2004, 11:29 PM
ANYWAY, BACK ON TOPIC.

Damn, I thought the not working thing was gonna be just me. =(

Cenright
01-28-2004, 11:48 PM
if he did that (chardish) then all the songs would have to start at a common rank (or else somebody could play 2 songs and be 1st or something

Well I think everyone's default rank is tied for last. So you get 1+1+30,000+30,000 etc. and that pretty much shoots your chances of getting a decent rank.


I dislike that, because I will never play any hip-hop songs (especially ones labeled "Parental advisory"). The same goes with fetts vette.

chardish
01-29-2004, 05:54 AM
Then, quite frankly, you don't deserve a high rank. While I admire your morality, turn off the speakers and play them. They're not hard, even without speakers. Imagine the assist tick.

Moogy
01-29-2004, 01:26 PM
Fett's Vette is awesome, yo. The Hip Hop ones do suck, I've never played them. But Fett's Vette is like hardcore mc chris ownage fo shizzle.

Yanah_God
01-29-2004, 02:34 PM
mc chris pwnz even if hip-hop doesn't

aperson
01-29-2004, 03:36 PM
Rank 3 omgomgomgomgogmogm

Brainmaster07
01-29-2004, 03:37 PM
I'm rank: notworking

:(

Squeak2k2
01-29-2004, 03:40 PM
I am also rank: notworking

makaveli121212
01-29-2004, 03:51 PM
THIS BEAT IS FOR THE STREETZ

SuperSalmon
01-29-2004, 05:41 PM
ranked 104 before i was ranked "not working"