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180digi
September 20th, 2005, 06:08 PM
I want to see it..Tim Burton movies are good. When does it come out?

suicidalmuskrat
September 20th, 2005, 06:45 PM
It's out now in select cities. I think it gets released everywhere on the 23rd.

Squeek
September 20th, 2005, 07:29 PM
Deleted the duplicate instead of locking it.

Posting to tell you to include information about things you want to "endorse". Pictures, reviews, etc.

~Squeek

-Fallen-
September 21st, 2005, 04:32 PM
Seeing it Saturday :)

kickassbuddy
September 21st, 2005, 05:25 PM
LIMEWIRE BITCHES!!!!111one

Just kidding. Me, my cousin, my bro and his friend is all going to watch it.

djshox
September 21st, 2005, 06:21 PM
I heard Hot Topic bought all merchandising rights before the movie even came out. Why am I not surprised?

Silly gothic posers.

lord_carbo
September 22nd, 2005, 08:49 PM
Silly gothic posers.

When are goths not posers? Don't get me started on bashing goth/emo people :P

Anyway, this movie seems really cool. I wanna see it. Bad.

mead1
September 22nd, 2005, 09:01 PM
A bit off topic, but why on earth did Jack Skellington hoodies become popular with Emo kids? I love that movie, then some kid was wearing one of those at school, and a small part of my soul died.

Omeganitros
September 22nd, 2005, 09:08 PM
A bit off topic, but why on earth did Jack Skellington hoodies become popular with Emo kids? I love that movie, then some kid was wearing one of those at school, and a small part of my soul died.


Funniest thing I've read all day.

jewpinthethird
September 23rd, 2005, 03:04 AM
Guys. The emo-fad died out a long time ago. It was at it's peak in popularity shortly after the Pop-punk fad died out which was about 3-4 years ago. Eyeliner, black-hair (usually with hints of blonde) that hangs over the one eye, tight jeans, straight-edge, etc all fall under the Hardcore fad. Usually they are the ones who walk around with The Nightmare Before Christmas merch.

Then you have your hipsters/scenesters. They are the ones who are all about wearing tight-fitting vintage clothes and talking about how their taste in music is so superior. They take pride in listening to bands like Xiu Xiu and junk like that. They are pompous and are constantly complaining about how commercial music is these days and how no one will ever appreciate their taste in music because everyone is so brainwashed. Basically, they think they are Parisians minus the whole...living in Paris thing.

GET OVER CALLING EVERYTHING EMO. You are three years too late.

cloud321
September 23rd, 2005, 08:40 AM
Ok well the movie will be good, can't wait, but this thread has turned in to complete off topic critisizing and I completely dislike it. Please lock.

lord_carbo
September 23rd, 2005, 03:27 PM
Guys. The emo-fad died out a long time ago. It was at it's peak in popularity shortly after the Pop-punk fad died out which was about 3-4 years ago. Eyeliner, black-hair (usually with hints of blonde) that hangs over the one eye, tight jeans, straight-edge, etc all fall under the Hardcore fad. Usually they are the ones who walk around with The Nightmare Before Christmas merch.

...

GET OVER CALLING EVERYTHING EMO. You are three years too late.

3 years too late? You hit the nail on the head with those descriptions (Even The Nightmare Before Christmas merchandise) and I though you were directly describing my sister and her friends for a second. Maybe my sister is 3 years too late :)

xiron
September 23rd, 2005, 03:52 PM
Seeing in 50 minutes. Uber excited. I'll give a review when i get back.

djshox
September 23rd, 2005, 03:58 PM
This isn't from me, but I thought it was funny anyways:

"I wonder when people will realize that the "scene" has become homogeneous. It's full of 14 year old girls with uneven bangs, black and white striped shirts, and tattered low-top black Chuck Taylors, who swoon over homosexual kissing and pathetic whiny lyrics and overuse the symbols.

Their favorite quote is, invariably, "The truth is you could slit my throat and with my one last gasping breath I'd apologize for bleeding on your shirt" because it like, so totally describes their relationship with that one HAWT sophomore who totally ripped their hearts out when they were like, SO in love with him.

Their favorite type of music is, of course, "emo, screamo, and hardcore", three terms which, in their minds, invariably include the bands Taking Back Sunday, Thrice, and Hawthorne Heights.

Their AIM screennames often include x's, the words "electrikk", "disaster", aRe wRiTtEn lIkE tHis or.maybe.this.way, **** or some play on their favorite song from their favorite band, you know, the one they saw on MTV like a couple times, but shouldn't be on MTV because they're like, way too emo for that.

They take hundreds of black and white pictures with way too much contrast of themselves looking plaintively down at the ground, pointing a gun made of their fingers at their heads, or kissing the camera while displaying their expert application of lip gloss around their labret piercing and the thick dark eyeliner that circles their eyes.

They embrace the "dork" that is inside their polished, fashionable exteriors by writing in their LiveJournals or Xangas about how they and their friends had an 'N Sync sing-a-long at one of their sleepovers because, remember, 'N Sync is soooo not popular anymore and they like, sooo wouldn't follow any of the fads of today, so they embrace the fads of yesterday.

They adore "retro fashion", meaning anything from the 80's, because they totally used to wear neon colors and big beaded bracelets, even though they were born in, at the earliest, 1988 and remember jack **** about the fashion and culture of the 80's.

It's full of "emo boys" who often are difficult to differentiate from "emo girls", who have meaningless tattoos even though they're 15, smoke a lot of cigarettes, drink a lot of hard liquor, and are in some ****ty band that plays a couple of gigs in someone's basement because they're "too cool to go mainstream" when really, they just suck.

They weigh roughly 90 pounds, wear girls' jeans that hug their asses in just the right places, belts buckled somewhere around the side of their right leg, tight striped 80's style polo shirts or band t-shirts, and skater shoes, even though they don't skate because that's soooo lame.

They write awful poetry about the dark abyss of their souls and how the gun is pointed at their heads, the trigger poised to blast away the bloody memories of a failed romance. They cried when Blink-182 broke up, and they have a secret obsession with Avril Lavigne because, like, she really IS kinda hot even though her music totally sucks.

They spend more time at the mirror than their female counterparts do, making sure that the long black shock of hair at the front of their heads lies covering one eye just so, that their lip piercing is perfectly placed so that it looks hot when they kiss other boys, that their pants are the right degree of tightness so as not to exude gayness. (Some even wear more makeup than most girls. added by Luke)

Emo boys and girls often use the suffix "Xcore" to describe themselves, using a number of adjectives or nouns to accomplish this task. This is a play off hardcore music, or "hXc". Some of these descriptive words include "fashionXcore", "retroXcore", or even "yournamehereXcore."

This way of speaking is retarded or nonsensical to everyone else except those "in the scene", but it totally doesn't matter because they're too nonconformistXcore for anyone to truly understand their "scene".

They couldn't name a Sunny Day Real Estate or Rites of Spring song if it came up and bit them on their Gap Jeans-clad asses, and they claim to like the Smiths because Jesse Lacey of Brand New said they were cool.

Sure, they listen to some new "emoXcore" bands, but they're all pretty much the same five bands:
1. Taking Back Sunday
2. Senses Fail
3. Thrice
4. Hawthorne Heights
5. Story of the Year
To these promising young firecrackers, music takes a backseat to fashion in their scene of choice.

Emo girls just want to kiss emo boys, emo boys just want to kiss other emo boys, and they all want to wear tight pants and take lots of pictures of themselves. End of story. Because honestly? It's electrikk!"

whorlichan
September 23rd, 2005, 07:18 PM
So, ignoring all the talk about emo-ness...

Corpse Bride was cute. It was not nearly as good plot-wise as I expected from Tim Burton, but it was GORGEOUS. That's really all I have to say...except that the Corpse Bride was much more beautiful than the living one.

Tasselfoot
September 23rd, 2005, 07:25 PM
It sucked. Take everything that Whorli said... and start it off with "It sucked." and then again end it with "it sucked."

:)

jewpinthethird
September 24th, 2005, 12:38 AM
It was at best "alright." The story was fairly boring. The music...uninspired (except for the piano pieces, those were good).

The art was grand though.

I'd give it a 5 out of 10.

talisman
September 24th, 2005, 12:46 AM
"Guys I just saw Tim Burton's dick lying on the sidewalk over there!"

"Holy **** let's suck it!"

That's essentially what I got out of the reviews I read.

MalReynolds
September 24th, 2005, 12:51 AM
You all realize that Danny Elfman doesn't really compose music anymore? He just hits a button on his computer labled "GENERIC DANNY ELFMAN SONG (Press twice to be nominated for best score Oscar)"? He's becoming somewhat of a hack... Although, he can still sing really really well.

Mal

jewpinthethird
September 24th, 2005, 03:47 AM
You all realize that Danny Elfman doesn't really compose music anymore? He just hits a button on his computer labled "GENERIC DANNY ELFMAN SONG (Press twice to be nominated for best score Oscar)"? He's becoming somewhat of a hack... Although, he can still sing really really well.

Mal

The same could be said for Randy Newman...minus the "singing really really well part."

MalReynolds
September 24th, 2005, 11:33 AM
True... But Randy Newman will eat you if he sees that you typed that. AND he frequents this forum.

Best of luck to ya'.

Mal

MalReynolds
September 26th, 2005, 10:16 PM
I'm double posting and BUMPING this topic because I just got back from it, and it was truly and utterly disappointing.

Maybe he's just losing his touch, but the movie was so simple... Not lasting for more than an hour and a quarter, but it dragged on... So many unneccessary parts.

I just felt like the movie was to showcase this new expierimental type of animation, and that since it's a hit, maybe they'll make a real movie out of it, instead of this hollow shell of a film.



SPOILER:




GOD, it was so simple. And the Corpse Bride wasn't even happy at the end. I mean, had I had control of the script, I would have given Depp's character a male friend to have slain at the sword duel at the end, so when Emily goes back to the land of the dead, she could have someone too. Not just BURSTING INTO BUTTERFLIES?!?? WHAT?!?!

And also, why did Bartis (Bartin, whatever) drink the poison? That was so contrived. Very rarely, when I go to crash wedding ceremonies and try to kill both the Groom AND my ex-wife do I leave by drinking their wine and making a stupid toast. Goddamnit, that part was just mind-numbing.




END SPOILERS.



I feel cheated. AND dirty.


Mal

Tasselfoot
September 26th, 2005, 10:42 PM
Go back and read my post Mal... would have saved you 7 bucks, or however much a student ticket is for you.

MalReynolds
September 26th, 2005, 11:43 PM
Ha, not a studen, just a resident of NY. 10.75, dammit! It wasn't a complete waste. The animation was nifty. That is all.

Besides, as a kid, my mom would always tell me not to touch the stove because it was hot. So, I touched the stove. It was hot. I'm one of those people who just has to find out about things for themselves.

Mal

Tasselfoot
September 26th, 2005, 11:49 PM
Aren't you 16... therefore in HS... therefore a student.

Unless your theater doesn't have student tickets... where in NY? Here in the big apple is more than 10.75, and they don't have student rates.

MalReynolds
September 26th, 2005, 11:53 PM
I'm 18, I wrote the girl piece 2 years ago, and I moved here in the summer.

The Regal 14 on 4th and I wanna say 13th is a 10.75, as is the one directly off of the West Side Highway, down around Veasey street.

Manhatten.

Mal

JurseyRider734
September 28th, 2005, 02:45 PM
Okay I saw it and I thought it was pretty cute, basically I agree with what Whorli said. I was kind of let down with the lack of interesting events throughout the movie but overall it was...uh..cute.

Tps222
September 28th, 2005, 03:20 PM
Hmm, Upstate NY is 9.50 for everyone, - kids(1-12) and seniors(65+). I really don't feel like seeing this, as I never saw Nightmare before Christmas, which seems like the reason you all are going to watch it. I know it isn't a sequel, it looks boring.

Moogy
September 30th, 2005, 09:22 AM
I laughed when Mal called it a "new" type of animation. That is just ignorant.

Stop motion has been around since the 30s. King Kong, anyone?

Anyway, this movie is wonderful. The animation is the most amazing thing I've ever seen.

How they did it:
1. Make small figurines of characters
2. Take a picture of them
3. Move them an incredibly small amount of space
4. Take another picture
5. Repeat forever
6. Stick all the pictures together so they look like they're moving

I believe they made at most a few seconds per day of film. You must appreciate this movie for doing that, if nothing else. Not to mention that this is lightyears ahead of anything else ever done with stop motion (including Nightmare Before Christmas). It's mind boggling. This is also why it is so short; making it any longer would have been incredibly taxing. Also, the sheer fluidity of it all is just amazing. If you've seen King Kong, you know how primitive stop motion was back then. It looked really jerky. This is the exact same technique used all the way back then, only with computer-aided camera work, as the shots would be impossible otherwise.

Oh, if you look carefully, you can notice that the piano at the beginning says "Harryhausen" on it. Great tribute.

I enjoyed the movie itself as well. All of Tim Burton's work is great. It was rather simple, but it didn't need to be anything more.

If you don't appreciate the animation, there's something wrong with you.

MalReynolds
September 30th, 2005, 11:11 AM
Yes, well, it's a new type of stop motion. I mean, you hardly compare Jason and the Argonauts to The Corpse Bride.

All of the commercials showcased how they were doing something different with the animation style, less the plot. None of the pre-release commercials showed anything pertaining to the plot; all the showed was the animation "Gurus" just doing their thing.

Which is good, because the plot, like I said, is paper thin. Not all of Tim Burton's work is great; all of it is stylistically... Well, Tim Burton. That doesn't automatically make it good. Look at Planet of the Apes, or Batman Returns (I liked Returns but it was weaker than the original). It is possible for him to make a less than incredible movie, which he has done in this case.

Mal

jewpinthethird
September 30th, 2005, 06:06 PM
If you think about it, this movie really is like gold-plated ****. Sure, it's gold-plated and pretty to look at, but on the inside, it still ****. This example is kind of harsh, but it proves my point.

The animation was awesome. The pastel colors, the soft haze that surronded everything...very atmospheric. But the plot, though not entirely a bad idea, lacked any entertainment value. The songs were boring and felt entirely random. The characters were whack and I felt no attatchment to any of them so the finale had no effect on me.

The movie doesnt feel as though Tim Burton spent a lot of time with it. Like Mal said, it feels as though it were a film based solely around the animation. In that case, Tim Burton would have faired better releasing it as a web-mini series for free. Nobody can feel ripped off if it's for free.

Tasselfoot
September 30th, 2005, 07:27 PM
Sure ya can Jewp... I still want my 75 minutes back... I at least can feel like I paid to see Lord of War and therefore saw Corpse Bride for free.

msbrunnettemickey
October 1st, 2005, 12:17 PM
So many ghost movies came out last month... =/

-Fallen-
October 1st, 2005, 05:30 PM
I fell asleep, literally. I've never seen a more boring movie. It looked cool, it was made well but it bored me and I got confused at one point. My girlfriend and her friend loved it though, but that's just their bad taste :P

msbrunnettemickey
October 1st, 2005, 06:42 PM
I just got back from watching it.
Brought my 3 friends.

I was realy bored, but i looked really awesome.

I was pretty confused somewhere at the end, not sure where.
One of my friends started crying o.o

I was just about to leave at the middle and go sneak in 'The Unfinished Life'

I swear.
I give it a 5/10
Could have been better.

180digi
October 1st, 2005, 07:10 PM
I laughed when Mal called it a "new" type of animation. That is just ignorant.

Stop motion has been around since the 30s. King Kong, anyone?

Anyway, this movie is wonderful. The animation is the most amazing thing I've ever seen.

How they did it:
1. Make small figurines of characters
2. Take a picture of them
3. Move them an incredibly small amount of space
4. Take another picture
5. Repeat forever
6. Stick all the pictures together so they look like they're moving

I believe they made at most a few seconds per day of film. You must appreciate this movie for doing that, if nothing else. Not to mention that this is lightyears ahead of anything else ever done with stop motion (including Nightmare Before Christmas). It's mind boggling. This is also why it is so short; making it any longer would have been incredibly taxing. Also, the sheer fluidity of it all is just amazing. If you've seen King Kong, you know how primitive stop motion was back then. It looked really jerky. This is the exact same technique used all the way back then, only with computer-aided camera work, as the shots would be impossible otherwise.

Oh, if you look carefully, you can notice that the piano at the beginning says "Harryhausen" on it. Great tribute.

I enjoyed the movie itself as well. All of Tim Burton's work is great. It was rather simple, but it didn't need to be anything more.

If you don't appreciate the animation, there's something wrong with you.

He's right..they make claymation movies that way too. I heard somewhere that the Wallace and Gromit movie thats coming out (if it didnt come out already?) took them like 4 years to make, they started back in '01.

MalReynolds
October 1st, 2005, 07:19 PM
Yes, but at least Wallace and Gromit will be enjoyable.

It may not be as pretty, but at least it has heart.

Mal

JurseyRider734
October 1st, 2005, 09:52 PM
I saw the preview for that...it didn't appeal to me. Oh well, if there's a lot of really GREAT reviews on it, maybe i'll check it out...otherwise I think i'll pass.

Pumble
October 1st, 2005, 10:20 PM
I saw it last week. It looks amazing; really sets a good atmosphere in the way everything is done, and make fun of me all you want, but that musical number with the skeletons kicked major ass. However, if you're looking for a well-written plot with lifelike characters and drama, stay the hell away. There's really nothing major that hasn't already been said. Although my friend is a huge Tim Burton fan, so my opinion might be a little biased :)

7/10 from me.