TWG XVII Postgame

[Kilgamayan]

talisman (Killed on Night 6)
hydrojakep/Flux (Ranpha Franboise, Guardian) (Survived to end of game)
whorlichan (Kokomo Peirou) (Lynched on Day 1)
blahblah18 (Mint Blancmanche, Psychic) (Survived to end of game)
dAnceguy117 (Survived to end of game)
Tasselfoot (Killed on Night 7)
Kefit (Lynched on Day 4)
lightdarkness (Commander Mary, Mark) (Lynched on Day 7)
JurseyRider734/QreepyBORIS (Lynched on Day 5)
GuidoHunter (Forte Stollen, Voyeur) (Killed on Night 4)
HansSky (Chitose Karasuma, Master) (Lynched on Day 3)
evilbutterfly (Maribu Peirou) (Lynched on Day 2)
deltro300111 (Lynched on Day 6)
Tps222 (Killed on Night 2)
Omeganitros (Vanilla H, Seer) (Killed on Night 1)
Kagome (Killed on Night 5)

Guardian picked eb (oops) on Day 1 and humped blah the entire rest of the game.

Voyeur picked eb (oops) and Tasselfoot twice. He was out of looks when he was killed.

As displeased as I was with the circumstances leading to whorli's lynching, I was thrilled with the team play tactic employed by the wolves. I thought for sure LD had it in the bag, but I gave up his case as lost when he killed talisman because he was a prime lynching candidate, and it was only a matter of time before the known human alliance steamrolled over the last wolf. Shame.

I doubt I will use the "when a role dies everyone knows" idea again - another failed experiment, it seems. However, I think I will keep the Voyeur.

The braying and neighing of barnyard animals follows.

[lightdarkness]

I feel it was still a victory, tottally owning tass the whole game until the end XD

[talisman]

I should have realized that ld had done the same thing he did last game... vote early and quietly in the instalynches. He did a good job realizing that tass had provided enough momentum towards those lynching targets that it was a foregone conclusion that they were dead.

In other news, I thought it was a very good day one, lots of info, etc. Once the first three wolves were dead and ld didn't want to get too active, obviously, I thought it died down alot.

Also I thought jake and danceguy played well.

[lightdarkness]

I should have realized that ld had done the same thing he did last game... vote early and quietly in the instalynches. He did a good job realizing that tass had provided enough momentum towards those lynching targets that it was a foregone conclusion that they were dead.

In other news, I thought it was a very good day one, lots of info, etc. Once the first three wolves were dead and ld didn't want to get too active, obviously, I thought it died down alot.

Also I thought jake and danceguy played well.

Not quite

I immediatly voted for my wolf partners, and my lack of activity was due to a vacation, the cards just fell into place nicely.

[Tasselfoot]

Props have to go to LD for surviving as long as he did, and for having me mostly fooled. There was always a nagging suspicion in the back of my head, especially as we got to day 6. After day 6, it HAD to be ld or danceguy, and LD was the much more obvious choice... so, even though he got me killed, no big sweat. We got the game won, even if it took longer than I thought it would.

Also, where is my love for pegging Whorli right off the bat, and that leading to pegging Hans and eb... just because LD fooled me... I still single handedly got the other 3, or at least got the ball rolling on them.

GG to all, I'll have the spreadsheet SS up shortly.

[Tps222]

I remember when I heard that you were the wolf, I was like "He's got this in the bag, with your close ties to Tass", though, it was a good game. I'll post the riddle answers in a bit. I think Tass should get MVP for nailing 3 wolves that quickly.

[hydrojakep]

That game was really fun, but i had no idea that LD was the wolf. I so badly thought it was deltro the whole game. Oh well. Good job tass for your heroic efforts in the capital punishment of three killers right off the bat. I think i played well also, for my first TWG at least.

[flypie743]

I've been watching this game.

1. I thought it was dumb how Tass used IRL to peg Whorli =/
2. I thought LD had it until the end where he would've either been killed today or tomorrow and hydro and blah would've pulled away the victory.
3. Good job Tass for pegging Hans and eb.

That's all. Interesting game to watch until the end where it was like stacked so LD couldn't have gotten a wolf victory.

[whorlichan]

Major props to LD for doing what I couldn't...although to be fair, you don't have to deal with Tass 24/7 so you had a much easier time of fooling him. Still, awesome job. I wish you'd killed him earlier :)

Blah, you were too quiet. You need to speak up more. I miss your intellectual additions to the games.

Edited to add... NO PROPS FOR TASS. :-P

[HansSky]

Tass+Whorli+TWG=never again.

[dAnceguy117]

I still think LD deserves a trophy.

[lightdarkness]

I still think LD deserves a trophy.

I'll have my dad make me one ;-)

[Tasselfoot]

All I have to say is this...

Master Wolf = In TWG because of my ideas
Vigilante = Never in TWG again because of my ideas
IRL Relationships = Liekly no-nos in TWG again because of what I did

The THREE biggest changes to TWG, all because of things that I did. Besides the fact that this is the 8th game in which my team has won, one less than Blah... who has the most with 9.

All of this, and I get no props. Not to mention 3 official MVPs, in TWG 2, 4, 5.. an unofficial one in TWG1, and one this game... should one be awarded.

[flypie743]

You get no props because you used IRL stuff to figure her out and that was just retarded >:|

[talisman]

I mean, it wasn't against the rules, why not use it? you guys would suck at commanding a war "no we can't spy, that isn't fair!"

I credit him more for getting eb than whorli though. hans was just obvious.

[flypie743]

I mean, it wasn't against the rules, why not use it?

Do we have to go through this argument again?

[talisman]

did we go through it before?

It isn't cheating until it's against the rules... now it is and now it's cheating.

It was lame for the wolves to lose a member of their own that quickly, but it would be equally lame if one of them got seered night one.... the exact same situation results.

Seer reveals identity of the wolf and asks for guardian's protection, tells them that if he/she isn't a wolf that they can kill him the next day. Guaranteed wolf lynched in two days, just like the situation with whorli.

[JurseyRider734]

I was so shocked when I found out the same game was on two weeks after I had left. I was expecting it to be two games later on Day 1 or something so I would have to suffer watching another whole game be played until I was able to. Good thing it lasted so long, I guess, now it won't be a long wait until I play.

If I still had my revised Lord of the Rings setup, i'd try to host next game. Maybe i'll take some time to re-type it up again.

Good job humans and wolves.

[flypie743]

did we go through it before?


Yes, there was a similar situation that happened a while ago. I think it was that Tass logged in to Whorli's account to check her PM or something, and it wasn't "written in the rules", but obviously it's not fair play. Just like what happened this time. It's not fair play. Who wants to win knowing they didn't win using fair methods?

[talisman]

I thought that was with guido and stretchy I believe and I didn't realize you meant the IRL thing, I thought you meant the argument about it.

Was it fair? No, not everyone could talk face to face with everyone else. Was it against the rules? No. Tass didn't break any rules, that's all I'm saying. Perhaps he exploited a loophole, but whatever. The wolves just got dealt a bad hand on that one.

[Tasselfoot]

What wasn't fair about it? We discussed TWG, the same as you would do with someone either over AIM or on the phone. And I know some of you talk to each other on the phone, so why wouldn't you discuss TWG as well.

Nothing in the rules says you can't discuss TWG on the phone with anyone... why not write that into the rules too, because you can hear their voice.

Just pisses me off at how bent out of shape all of you get at the things I do. Some more than others. I appreciate the support from those who see things the same way that I do.

[talisman]

well it wasn't fair because fairness by definition implies that all players can do it... and all players can't see other players face to face.

legal does not equal fair.

[Tps222]

I have to go with Tass on this one. All is fair in love and war, and TWG. It wasn't against the rules, and any of you would have done the same. Not doing it would be stupid, don't give me the whole "It ruins the game" crap, because in games their are winners and losers, so why wouldn't you take every legal action to ensure victory. "Well, we could nuke Japan and win the war, but that doesn't seem nice or fair".

Now, to my pm thing. I did it for some fun, to get people interested if they were green, to keep myself alive, and save the special roles. My first PM read

Hello fellow TWG’er:

Let’s make this game interesting. This Pm is getting sent out to ALL players. Now, I am either the voyeur, a wolf, the psychic, or a human. If I am the voyeur, then the wolves will surely try and kill me, but if I am not, what a waste of a kill. If I am a wolf, then humans will surely vote me off, but what if I am the psychic or the voyeur? Then you’re killing a blue! What if I am just a normal human, then this would make me look incredibly wolfish, since I have more of a chance of getting killed by a wolf then a human; I am willing to take the risk, hinting at me being a wolf. Though, why would I have any reason to do this if I was a wolf? It would bring a whole lot of attention to me, with the low chance of being accepted as a human. If I was a blue, the reason would to do this would to either to hopefully get guarded, or to confuse the wolves to thinking there is no way I can be a blue, with a move this bold, or, to see who is acting really suspicious towards me, and see them that night. Then again, what if I am a human, why would I do this? Possibly for protection, or to sacrifice myself to the wolves to possibly save an important role for a night. Unless I am a wolf, which would put me in no harm, except the hard decision of the humans, is it worth reducing the wolves’ chances greatly by risking a blue? Then again, if I was a blue, it would put me in a lot of harm. I don’t know what to do, what decision should we make. Which am I? I sure do love logic puzzles. After a change in heart, I have decided to give you all a hint, a clue, to my real identity. I will check the responses to my clues everyday once an hour. Here’s the first clue.

--.- ..- . ... - .- / .--. .- .-. --- .-.. .- / ... .. --. -. .. ..-. .. -.-. .- / .-.. .- / .-. .. -. .- ... -.-. .. - .- .-.-.-
Enjoy

Your mysterious friend, or foe,
Tps222

It was morse code, and it read "This word means the rebirth". The correct answer was Rennasaince.

The next clue read: Next Clue

VFhWcGRHRnpJR1Y0Y0c5emFjT253N1ZsY3lCa1pTQlVWaUIwdz ZwdElIVnRZU0JqWVc3RHA4T2pi
eUIyWVhwcFlTNGdVWFZsSUhCaA0KYkdGMmNtRWdjM1ZpYzNScG RIVnBjaUJoSUhaaGVtbHZJR1po
Y21saElITmxiblJwWkc4L0lBPT0=

Base 64. It translated to "Many T.V shows have a blank song before the show starts". The answer is Theme.

My next clue wasn't finished, but it was going to read "If you combine the answer to part 1 and the answer to part 2, and find the answer to that question, you will discover my role" Which would be The Theme of the Rennaisance is? Now their were many themes of the Rennaisance, but the correct one was Humanism. Jurs got the farthest, completing all my possible clues.

Good game all, I think we should delay signups for a week again (mainly because I'm hosting a quick jTWG game, and I want to play)

[flypie743]

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=21000&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Found the thread where Tass used something that "wasn't written in the rules" and used it.

[Afrobean]

Yea, Tass' tactics are lame as hell. He used an unfair advantage (OMG WHAT A SURPRISE) just like before with the whole PM scandel. Also, if not for his pegging Whorli, he never would have had such an easy time with eb and whoever else.

Also, Tass said that phone calls should be outlawed. I don't see how that makes any sense. Talking to someone on the phone is TOTALLY DIFFERENT from SEEING THEM IN REAL LIFE. Besides, all players have the ability to call all other players (given that the recieving player is cool to talk on the phone). "BUT WAIT AFRO SOME PEOPLE CAN'T CALL OTHER PEOPLE WHO LIVE FAR AWAY OMG!" That's retarded. Many of you may remember the recent Skype fad. Yea, anyone can call any TWG player on Skype. In fact, I think it'd be really cool if we all got in a conference next game or something.

One shouldn't have to cheat to expose weaknesses in rules. It was talked about before that IRL relationships shouldn't be allowed, yet it was allowed this game. All I have to ask is "why"?

All in all, I say LD wins for fooling everyone. The only people he didn't fool were people who were lucky enough to be in the know. GG LD.

I sure hope I didn't forget to post anything I thought of during the duration of the game. I'm definitely looking forward to next game. It's been too long.

[Omeganitros]

GG humans. Sorry I let you guys down, but I knew as a limited Seer I would have to be careful with my powers while still building an alliance. It just so happens that my first choice for an alliance member was evilbutterfly, which got me killed night one.

[dAnceguy117]

Afro, I agree with just about everything in your post except for the part about Skype. The reason seeing people IRL has been outlawed is because not everyone can do it. While Skype is free and all, and while I really need a headset, I don't have one yet, as I'm sure a few others don't. I'm not really saying OMG SKYPE SHUD BE ILEGAL, I'm just saying it's not a completely legitimate argument when compared to talking on the phone.

Oh, and if you really care that much, you can call someone long distance. XD But yeah, as TWG progresses, more and more loopholes will be noticed, often exploited, and then addressed. There's nothing you can do about that.

[evilbutterfly]

Everything I wrote during the game I wrote as though the game were over. If you want long drawn-out rants about how angry this game made me, go back and read when I died. You people just followed Tass and his stupid ideas, and he used unfair tactics to get one of us. I also still stand by what I said about never playing TWG with Tass ever again. If he signs up in TWG I will go to jTWG, but if Whorli gets to TWG first I will stay with that. I know some of you would be happy to follow me in this Tass boycott. It's not that I don't like Tass as a person (I don't know him personally), I just hate who he is while playing TWG and don't want to have to deal with it.

[talisman]

I wonder how many people would be complaining if tass had been wrong about whorli...

eb, I respect your position, but I do think your solution is childish. just focus on the content of his posts, not the way he says it.

[dAnceguy117]

I guess you could say Tass is a little *assertive*, but it doesn't bother me, really. Maybe that's because he's usually right, haha.

Anyway, next game, plz? :)

[blahblah18]

I have to say that knowing a role when someone died was a huge aadvantage and let me extrapolate a lot that i otherwise normally wouldn't have, and it allowed me to just put utter trust in jake. If roles wern't announced when dead, and if jake was say, Alain, then I could easily believe that he woudl be lying to me, even with me guarded, since any real guardian would have guarded me anyways *hint hint, that would be an awesome STRAT* but knowing roles when they die just makes it too risky for that to work. Also, I'd been waiting for the game that I could announce my role day 1. With roles being known and knowing the seer dead, it was even easier, however I strongly reccomend others Don't, unless they're awesome like me, since it ties up a lot of resources, and really screws shit up, now that people see it as a viable option, it can be fairl easily countered.

Also I have a game with good roles set-up but I much rather play, so if anyone wants to host, please contact me and I'll give you good roles to use for a fun game. This crowd would LOVE a kingmaker :)

Also, I was kind of upset about LD because I figured him for a wolf a couple days ago, but Tass kept telling me he was 100 % human, so I didn't push the issue.

[Omeganitros]

BTW, I think Kilga deserves a big round of applause for making an exceptionally hilarious story.


*Applause*

[hydrojakep]

I should have read it :<

[dAnceguy117]

The context-situational stuff was the best. I lol'd at the part about Qreepy.

[Kilgamayan]

I must say, I thank the Lord we only had 16 players - I had completely run out of in-show ways to kill people off.

But I did have fun with this one; a lot more so than the IRC one, as I thought would be the case. :x

I'm up for hosting again some time in the future, I've got a really simple but hilarious theme planned.

[GuidoHunter]

I want to pat myself on the back for successfully attacking eb and Hans. Such an occurrence is rare.

My thoughts on the Voyeur: Use it again. Not always, though, but if we're going to have another blue-oriented game it's awesome. It's practically another guardian for three nights, used for threat of protection.

I can't think right now, otherwise I might provide a useful postgame, but my game was rather uneventful (that is not to say not fun, though).

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[nforcer06164]

I have to say I agree with eb. Tass pissed me off after Day 1 of this game, and I wasn't even playing. Not only was he using an unfair tactic to get an advantage for the human team, you all brushed it off. Now, you're all bowing down to him for what he did. All you're doing is boosting his ego, making him feel superior to us in TWG. If you want an elitist in TWG, be my guest. It'll end up ruining the game for the rest of us.

As for subsequent games, I'm sticking with eb and not playing with Tass until he learns to cool it, until...

1) He stops acting as if he's so "mighty" when it comes to TWG. A team player is not boastful about his own accomplishments. With Tass, boastful is hardly the word. He practically worships himself. You can point out something that you thought was helpful, but don't rant on about it.

Props have to go to LD for surviving as long as he did, and for having me mostly fooled. There was always a nagging suspicion in the back of my head, especially as we got to day 6. After day 6, it HAD to be ld or danceguy, and LD was the much more obvious choice... so, even though he got me killed, no big sweat. We got the game won, even if it took longer than I thought it would.

Also, where is my love for pegging Whorli right off the bat, and that leading to pegging Hans and eb... just because LD fooled me... I still single handedly got the other 3, or at least got the ball rolling on them.

GG to all, I'll have the spreadsheet SS up shortly.

He's looking for worship. "Where is my love"?



All I have to say is this...

Master Wolf = In TWG because of my ideas
Vigilante = Never in TWG again because of my ideas
IRL Relationships = Liekly no-nos in TWG again because of what I did

The THREE biggest changes to TWG, all because of things that I did. Besides the fact that this is the 8th game in which my team has won, one less than Blah... who has the most with 9.

All of this, and I get no props. Not to mention 3 official MVPs, in TWG 2, 4, 5.. an unofficial one in TWG1, and one this game... should one be awarded.

"And I get no props"? I wonder why? Plus, notice how he assumes he'll get MVP. Really nice.

2) The rest of you stop stroking his ego. Every time you praise him for what he does, you raise his pedestal a little higher. Then you wonder why you feel so inferior to him, and why he treats you like such an idiot when you goof up in a game.

[dAnceguy117]

Uh, nforcer, we're not "stroking his ego". Regardless of the situation with Whorli, he pegged eb and Hans very quickly, and when you peg wolves, you deserve credit for it. He's pretty freakin' good at this game, I mean come on, you can't deny that. Also,

Then you wonder why you feel so inferior to him

Wait, what, is that how you feel? I often agree with his good judgement, and he is very skilled at TWG, but I don't really feel "inferior" to him.

Sometimes I wonder why all this is taken so seriously. o.o

[lightdarkness]

Uh, nforcer, we're not "stroking his ego". Regardless of the situation with Whorli, he pegged eb and Hans very quickly, and when you peg wolves, you deserve credit for it. He's pretty freakin' good at this game, I mean come on, you can't deny that. Also,

Then you wonder why you feel so inferior to him

Wait, what, is that how you feel? I often agree with his good judgement, and he is very skilled at TWG, but I don't really feel "inferior" to him.

Sometimes I wonder why all this is taken so seriously. o.o

The reason he pegged Hans and EB so quickly was because of their reactions to the whorli situation... I survived by piggybacking Tass, without him knowing Whorli, he wouldn't have gotten the other two so quickly.

[dAnceguy117]

True.. but that shouldn't take all the credit from him, IMO.

Now who would like to host this next game? =)

[lightdarkness]

True.. but that shouldn't take all the credit from him, IMO.

IMO though, had he not gotten Whorli, he wouldn't have gotten the other two.

[blahblah18]

wow you all need to go to the wahmbulance or something. If anyone knows anything aroudn here, I am the number one advocate of the kick tass in the nuts when he tries to make people believe he is god, but you guys need to grow the hell up. Nothing bad happened here and for you to be so upset by it BECAUSE it went against you is just really poor showing. And if I'M the one saying this, then you have to at least look back and think aboutt what actually happened.

And to clarify... omega, you TOLD EB you were the seer before night 1 ?!?!?!?!!

But yeah, lay off tass, yeah he was arrogant in the end about his MVP comment, but other then that there was nothing wrong. Grow up kids, its just a game, and if tass doesn't act like it is, who are you to sink to his level and reduce yourself to actually getting so upset.

Finally, agreed, well played Kilga, best story yet.

[JurseyRider734]

Now who would like to host this next game? =)

Me.

[Omeganitros]

And to clarify... omega, you TOLD EB you were the seer before night 1 ?!?!?!?!!

*Giggle*

Yup. That's seriously how I run alliances. I would have seered him first, except my powers were limited and I needed to save them.

[dAnceguy117]

Dude, a seer that can seer people during the day is crucial, you can't risk dying on XD All you do is wait for someone to have a strong argument against them. Seer them, and if they're human, come to them. If not, come to the person that pointed them out.

[Tps222]

Whatever it takes to win, as long as it's legal at the time, should be used. As I said earlier, say your in a war with Japan, and you can win that war by dropping a nuke on them, but they don't have any nukes, are you not going to do it because it's unfair? Tass didn't do anything illegal, and, thus, was able to nail the wolves. While some people may be offended by boasting, I'm not, as long as there backing it up, and Tass is. If I win, I'm happy.

[Tasselfoot]

All I have to say is....

I talk the talk. I also walk the walk.

I'm like Muhammad Ali. I'm the greatest. I'm a bad man. And I'm pretty.

Plus... regarding the MVP thing... who did the most work towards this human victory? Myself... then Blah... then TPS. Omega gets last, thought not entirely through a fault of his own. Had eb not been a wolf, he could have been MVP for all I know, but giving himself away to a wolf on Night 1 = anti-MVP... a classic no-no. Its basically what happened with the Hans/Chardish situation a few games back when Blah was a wolf. Blah found out about it from Chardish, and bang... Hans AND Chardish were dead.

NEVER reveal yourself to ANYONE night 1, even with only 3 seerings.

[Afrobean]

Dude. Tass. The only reason you did so well was because you pegged Whorli. Without whorli being knocked out and other players response to it (which by the way was also wrong as if I'd played I'd be pissed about what happened even if I were human. Myself and others want an even game, not a stacked one, even if it's stacked in my team's favor) you never could have gotten eb and hans so easily. Sure, you MIGHT have gotten them, but because this game was sullied by your less than honorable playing style, we'll never know for sure.

[GuidoHunter]

Less honorable nothing. Less fair, yeah, but that's why we banned IRL teammates. Sure, Tass isn't modest, but that makes him a bad person before a bad player. Sure, he asks for praise when he deserves it (or maybe not), but that doesn't make him any worse a player.

It's not like Tass went out of his way to try and be unfair. He just knew his woman well and it happened to mean her death. Note how nobody cared when he pegged her as human EVERY OTHER TIME THEY PLAYED ON THE SAME TEAM. It just happened that he got a wolf this time; there is no difference. The issue was never raised seriously before. Now that it has it has been dealt with, so just leave it. As far as this game is concerned, Tass's playing style was no less honorable than anyone else's.

Ugh, this crybaby business is beginning to irritate me.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[Afrobean]

The issue was never raised seriously before.
Actually, it was and honestly, I don't see why it wasn't ruled on games ago when it was originally talked about. We don't have to have a game where unfairness is exploited to see that something should be made against the rules.

[blahblah18]

quit your bitching seriously. notice that me and Andy are both saying this, and who doesn't respect us? so come on :-p

[JurseyRider734]

Okay guys, it's not going to happen again. If the situation arises, TWC will make sure it doesn't happen(I hope). Move on to discussing any other topics about the game you had, if at all.

[Kilgamayan]

I'm going to resolve this issue once and for all.

MVP goes to me for forging individual alliances with all the special roles and pegged all the wolves before Day 1 had even started.

I'm glad everyone liked the story, it's just a shame that no one cared about last game because if it had gone on regularly it would've easily been the best story to date. D:

[Kefit]

Oh hey this game finally ended.

Try as I might, I just wasn't about to get into this game. Ah well. Maybe TWG just isn't for me anymore.

I'm kind of surprised that both eb and Hans let themselves slip with their reactions to the Tass vs Whorli thing on day one. ld did a superb job playing off of it and making the best of a bad situation, but the wolves would have still had much better chances if eb and Hans hadn't of gotten involved.

And Tass, stop whining. I supported your playing before I was lynched, but I certainly am not going to support your whining :p

[QreepyBORIS]

Hey guys.

No matter what I am never a wolf. Remember that.

I am also never a blue. Keep that in mind, too.

God. =/

[Tps222]

The only people I see whining are the people saying it's unfair. Well, there entitled to their opinion, personally, as long as we win by the rules, I'm happy. Now, this doesn't matter anyways because it's already ruled illegal, so I don't understand why everyone is arguing, people's morals will always be different, and the people here that play TWG are stubborn, so no one is going to change their opinion, so I see no use on arguing this anymore.

[Tasselfoot]

Its ok TPS... I'm right. That's all that matters. :)

They're just jealous.

[flypie743]

TWG Dumped Me

oic

[Tasselfoot]

I still had sex with TWG, even if she later dumped me...

although I never got notice about this... and it is rahter customary to receive some sort of phone call or something telling me I've been dumped including some sort of explanation.

Besides... even dumped, TWG is STILL my b*tch, and always will be. Y'know... barring some sort of mass MESNA influx to FFR or some alien lobotomy project that swaps out all of your brains for new ones.

[Tps222]

We can win by ourselves Tass everyone just relies on you. I have an idea, next game, if you signup and don't provoke any important ideas, or peg any wolves, and we lose, then i'll sport a "tass is my TWG daddy" in my sig; but if the humans win then you have to admit people are just as good as you at this. You said you were Ali, he never backed down, will you? :)

[Kilgamayan]

I have an idea, next game, if you signup and don't provoke any important ideas, or peg any wolves, and we lose, then i'll sport a "tass is my TWG daddy" in my sig; but if the humans win then you have to admit people are just as good as you at this.

Hey, I've seen this cartoon before. (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=26416)

[blahblah18]

that still makes me furious, but i'd say it proves the point that tass isn't needed, cuz i did everything that game, but again

WHO THE FUCK CARES... PEOPLE ARE WHO THEY ARE AND WHY SHOULD IT MATTER... GROW UP YOU 14 YEAR OLD BABIES

[Tps222]

Kilga, I had that game won, nailing Hans as the last wolf with great evidence, Kefit just decided to change his mind :) .

[HansSky]

Really tps, I doubt YOU were the one who "had that game won"(but you still managed to lose), blah really did all the work that game. But mass confusion worked in my favor. Which, come to think of it, probably turned blah into the TWG leech that he is now, just bandwagoning and not really caring to back up evidence...

Look what we've done.

[dAnceguy117]

GROW UP YOU 14 YEAR OLD BABIES

Now that was uncalled for. ='(

[Tasselfoot]

Thank you Kilga... perfect example. I die night 1... humans wind up losing, although it was close.

Plus, should Whorli ever sign up for a TWG before me, I won't be able to play... and once again, humans will lose.

[Tps222]

Hmm, I remember when Tass got banned, we somehow managed http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=22536&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=465&sid=21b8573a255f857ed6a898a9ede5197f

:)
I do admit that your a great player Tass, it seems as most people don't like the way you present yourself during a game, the whole follow me or die/lose thing.

[flypie743]

Yep, I remember that game. Blah guarded eb. I came to eb because I was a mason. Brought along my other masoners. Formed an alliance. Sadly, blah decided to guard eb and not me, and I ended up dying

I WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU SCOTTY |:<

[HansSky]

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=25631&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Remember this game? The humans pulled out victorious. This is also when Tass was...wait...a wolf?! So, Tass was working AGAINST the humans, and the humans still won. Nah...must've been a fluke.

[Kilgamayan]

^ That loss was my fault for being stupendously moronic and sticking by Tass when (a) I knew he was a lost cause and (b) I was TOLD the entire plan by LD.

If I had been thinking me first the wolves would've won that. Sadly, I was a team player. =\

[Tps222]

What about the game when Squeek Cypher and I were wolves and got you guys to lynch Tass, and humans lost.

[HansSky]

Tass is losing.

[Tps222]

I think we have proven our point. Tass is a great player, and with him on your team you have a greater chance to win, but, it's not like it's impossible to win without him.

[blahblah18]

the fact that you all need to throw in evidence one way or the otther is pathetic... I was really upset with everyone in this thread for so severely attacking Tass but then he just had to make another post and be even more retarded... wow... I don't know who to be mad at, you're all ridiculous..and again, of the 2 examples given, it seems i'm the awesome one.. those games were fun, maybe i'll try being awesome again. I'm not sure though.

[JurseyRider734]

Don't worry blah, you're awesome regardless.